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Army/Navy Game clash
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 08:38
It looks like this season we're going to have a clash with the Army v Navy game, and we won't be able/allowed to play on a different day. (Sm17)

Looking at the schedule of events for Twickenham Stadium, the Army Navy game is scheduled to be on May the 5th. That's the last day of the regular season, when we're scheduled to play Exeter at home. Usually that would just mean that we'd move our game to Friday or Sunday, but as it's the last day of the regular season, all the games have to kick off at the same time, so we can't move it.

I remember what chaos it was last time we had this fixture clash. We'll have somewhere in the region of 80k squaddies and squids, the majority of whom will already be hammered by lunchtime, plus a likely sell-out crowd at The Stoop. The Rosebine will be out of bounds unless you've pre-booked and even then numbers will be limited. I bet that the Police will be delighted to have almost 100k people to handle. No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

 
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Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 08:51
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So do I. Bloody nightmare!



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Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 09:41
Why dont you just use your ButlerCopter?

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
blucherquin (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 09:54
Just move to twickenham and walk

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 10:33
So quite a few of the local boozers will close at 7pm. That may prove a tad annoying if we've just beaten Exe by one point in a nail biter to determine which of us finishes 1st or 2nd sad smiley

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 11:31
How late do the bars at the Stoop remain open?

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
15 July, 2017 13:02
Blimey!! I'm not gonna stress about a possible issue next MAY!!!

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
TeddingtonQuin (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 14:52
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I remember what chaos it was last time we had this fixture clash.

I thought it was quite good fun - we had a great evening with some of the squaddies in the Turks Head afterwards (Sm42)



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Re: Army/Navy Game clash
blucherquin (IP Logged)
15 July, 2017 19:10
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Blimey!! I'm not gonna stress about a possible issue next MAY!!!

Bizarre isn't it - I'd suggest finding a hobby in the summer other than logging in here every 3 seconds

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
16 July, 2017 08:19
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
blucherquin (IP Logged)
16 July, 2017 11:20
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
16 July, 2017 13:44
I remember the line between Reading & Twickenham being closed between Staines & Feltham on an England International day a few years back. That's one of the main train routes for fans coming from anywhere along the M40/M4/M3/A3 corridor. It may not be a hatred of rugby fans, just a complete lack of regard for the travelling public on the days when major events happen.

For those asking why I've raised this issue now, I offer these thoughts:
* Not every Quins fan lives five minutes walk away from the Stoop. A lot of us travel some distance to support the team at home games. Spending hours on trains packed out with Squaddies/Squids who are nissed as pewts at 11am in the morning is not fun.
* I enjoy Home games as a day out. The chance at a weekend to have a decent pub lunch, have a few beers then wander round to The Stoop before the game to meet up with friends, watch the game, then head home, etc. When the Army/Navy game rolls into town, the centre of TW is basically useless for other punters. You may as well completely forget a "day out". Instead, you've got the game & that's it.
*Trying to get home after the game if it clashes is even worse than trying to get away after an International game. You have an extra 15k fans above what you have on an England match day. It normally takes me about 2&1/2 hours to get home after a normal Quins day. That stretched to over 4 hours the last time we had this clash of fixtures. Do *you* enjoy being squashed onto a platform at TW station for an hour & a half before you them get packed into a train like sardines for an hour on the way to, say, Reading, with lots of folks who have had more alcohol in a matter of hours than a normal person would have in a fortnight? Trust me, the "joy" of wading through the vomit trying to get out of the train is no fun.
* Raising this issue with the Club and PRL now at least gives them time to look into what is feasible in terms of juggling the fixtures around.If we left it until Next Feb when the final day fixtures were set in the schedule, it would be too late for any alternatives to be sorted out.

So, call me a killjoy if you want, but I have horrible memories of what happened last time, and I don't want to see them repeated again this season.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
17 July, 2017 09:15
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

Which explains why they also do it around football games. Or do they? Not that I've ever noticed. But hey, feel free to make a snide comment.

By the way, how many "millions of commuters" travel into and out of Twickenham each day?

 
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Dave L (IP Logged)
17 July, 2017 09:32
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

Which explains why they also do it around football games. Or do they? Not that I've ever noticed. But hey, feel free to make a snide comment.

By the way, how many "millions of commuters" travel into and out of Twickenham each day?

To be fair, I had years as a West Ham season ticket holder and lost count of the amount of times the District Line was suspended for Engineering works with only the Hammersmith and City to use to get to Upton Park tube. Plus the Jubilee Line which any supporter south of the river used was out on an regular basis for a couple of years in the late 2000s. That was catering for 35,000 people per event. I'm told by friends that still have Season Tickets that there have been numerous instances of issues with Stratford trains since the move, particularly those using the lines into Essex with 57,000 per event so it's not just rugby that gets the treatment.

 
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blucherquin (IP Logged)
17 July, 2017 19:02
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

Which explains why they also do it around football games. Or do they? Not that I've ever noticed. But hey, feel free to make a snide comment.

By the way, how many "millions of commuters" travel into and out of Twickenham each day?

They don't just shut Twickenham when the works are on. And if you're travelling into London to do anything or a Saturday or Sunday on any line run by South West Trains it affects you - so they equally hate people shopping, going to work at the weekend, going to football matches, take your pick.

My comment wasn't snide, it was a direct challenge to your ludicrous statement.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
17 July, 2017 20:50
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

Which explains why they also do it around football games. Or do they? Not that I've ever noticed. But hey, feel free to make a snide comment.

By the way, how many "millions of commuters" travel into and out of Twickenham each day?

They don't just shut Twickenham when the works are on. And if you're travelling into London to do anything or a Saturday or Sunday on any line run by South West Trains it affects you - so they equally hate people shopping, going to work at the weekend, going to football matches, take your pick.

My comment wasn't snide, it was a direct challenge to your ludicrous statement.

Oh dear. Somebody's tired.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
blucherquin (IP Logged)
17 July, 2017 21:35
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

Which explains why they also do it around football games. Or do they? Not that I've ever noticed. But hey, feel free to make a snide comment.

By the way, how many "millions of commuters" travel into and out of Twickenham each day?

They don't just shut Twickenham when the works are on. And if you're travelling into London to do anything or a Saturday or Sunday on any line run by South West Trains it affects you - so they equally hate people shopping, going to work at the weekend, going to football matches, take your pick.

My comment wasn't snide, it was a direct challenge to your ludicrous statement.

Oh dear. Somebody's tired.

No mate I'm fine. How's thinking a rail company hates a particular group of sports fans working out for you? I'd be having sleepless nights.....

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
17 July, 2017 22:18
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

Which explains why they also do it around football games. Or do they? Not that I've ever noticed. But hey, feel free to make a snide comment.

By the way, how many "millions of commuters" travel into and out of Twickenham each day?

They don't just shut Twickenham when the works are on. And if you're travelling into London to do anything or a Saturday or Sunday on any line run by South West Trains it affects you - so they equally hate people shopping, going to work at the weekend, going to football matches, take your pick.

My comment wasn't snide, it was a direct challenge to your ludicrous statement.

Oh dear. Somebody's tired.

No mate I'm fine. How's thinking a rail company hates a particular group of sports fans working out for you? I'd be having sleepless nights.....

Allow me to correct you on two points: it's you who has brought some imagined hatred into this - my own feeling is that it's a scant disregard (although I acknowledge I could be wrong there, it could be all sports fans, or just passengers in general); anyway, I'm sure you're happier with your perceived venom. Secondly - and of this I'm certain - we've never met... but even if we had, you'd be a very, very long way from being what I would consider a "mate".

Make sure someone turns the lights out for you. It's way past your bedtime. I'd suggest getting earlier nights, but I suppose it's not term time so you can always lie in.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
raedarius (IP Logged)
17 July, 2017 22:49
In the absence of rugby, other arguments are available...

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
blucherquin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 07:20
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No doubt South West trains will arrange to have some sort of Engineering works interfering with the trains. This is not going to be a pleasant day!

For me this is the most frustrating part. Poor planning? No, it happens too often. Not giving a damn about rugby fans? More likely. I'm sure it doesn't happen around football games.

Or they do it at weekends because the trains are much quieter than during the week when it would cause massive disruption to millions of commuters.

But you're probably right, south west trains hate rugby fans.

Which explains why they also do it around football games. Or do they? Not that I've ever noticed. But hey, feel free to make a snide comment.

By the way, how many "millions of commuters" travel into and out of Twickenham each day?

They don't just shut Twickenham when the works are on. And if you're travelling into London to do anything or a Saturday or Sunday on any line run by South West Trains it affects you - so they equally hate people shopping, going to work at the weekend, going to football matches, take your pick.

My comment wasn't snide, it was a direct challenge to your ludicrous statement.

Oh dear. Somebody's tired.

No mate I'm fine. How's thinking a rail company hates a particular group of sports fans working out for you? I'd be having sleepless nights.....

Allow me to correct you on two points: it's you who has brought some imagined hatred into this - my own feeling is that it's a scant disregard (although I acknowledge I could be wrong there, it could be all sports fans, or just passengers in general); anyway, I'm sure you're happier with your perceived venom. Secondly - and of this I'm certain - we've never met... but even if we had, you'd be a very, very long way from being what I would consider a "mate".

Make sure someone turns the lights out for you. It's way past your bedtime. I'd suggest getting earlier nights, but I suppose it's not term time so you can always lie in.

At least we've finally agreed that you don't really believe a train company is singling out a particular sport.

I'll agree they don't seem to like passengers much. But me and the other half a million people every day who have to endure their services to commute would rather they shut at weekends rather than during the week.

You can "feel" what you like (it's popular in the place of reason or facts these day), but the "reason" it's at the weekend is because it's better for more people than during the week.

And I think we'd have warm showers.



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Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 07:39
Wow! "millions" has dropped to "half a million". Plus one.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
blucherquin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 10:15
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Wow! "millions" has dropped to "half a million". Plus one.

No, they were two related but different numbers but since this is now the point we're discussing and you've asked for clarity.

Even if we regard the limited point of the SWT network, closing it for two days (which is what happens on "rugby" weekends), it therefore would affect one million people directly who use their services.

But as happens with annoyingly regularity when there's disruption somewhere on any of the major train, tube, bus networks - it has a knock on on all the other services because people have to find other ways into town.

So yes, if they shut down one of the major operators into London for two days between Monday and Friday, it affects "millions" of people.

 
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le tiss (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 13:25
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Wow! "millions" has dropped to "half a million". Plus one.

No, they were two related but different numbers but since this is now the point we're discussing and you've asked for clarity.

Even if we regard the limited point of the SWT network, closing it for two days (which is what happens on "rugby" weekends), it therefore would affect one million people directly who use their services.

But as happens with annoyingly regularity when there's disruption somewhere on any of the major train, tube, bus networks - it has a knock on on all the other services because people have to find other ways into town.

So yes, if they shut down one of the major operators into London for two days between Monday and Friday, it affects "millions" of people.


To be perfectly honest BQ, they should be attempting to do these works outside of operating times, ie in the middle of the night. its a liberty to charge paying customers full price tickets for times when they need to be shunted onto busses etc if you ask me.i am sure this used to happen but now they just seem to have utter contempt for weekend travellers, regardless of demand.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 13:39
We're back up to one million. This is like a Diane Abbott interview.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
akb1 (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 13:33
good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

 
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blucherquin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 13:43
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We're back up to one million. This is like a Diane Abbott interview.

No, you suggested we'd dropped, we hadn't, you'd failed to understand - so it's more like a Boris Johnson interview where your answering questions you haven't been asked.

 
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blucherquin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 13:45
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 15:10
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

I'm sure he'll be devastated. Whoever "he" might be.

Still hearing those voices?

 
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blucherquin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 17:52
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

I'm sure he'll be devastated. Whoever "he" might be.

Still hearing those voices?

Given up? You were doing so well. Big kisses.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
18 July, 2017 23:02
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

I'm sure he'll be devastated. Whoever "he" might be.

Still hearing those voices?

Given up? You were doing so well. Big kisses.

Are you still talking to "him"? I hope he's listening.

I never felt the need to have make-believe friends.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
blucherquin (IP Logged)
19 July, 2017 09:43
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

I'm sure he'll be devastated. Whoever "he" might be.

Still hearing those voices?

Given up? You were doing so well. Big kisses.

Are you still talking to "him"? I hope he's listening.

I never felt the need to have make-believe friends.

Anyone remember when he believed South West Trains didn't like rugby fans? I liked him back then.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
19 July, 2017 10:26
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

I'm sure he'll be devastated. Whoever "he" might be.

Still hearing those voices?

Given up? You were doing so well. Big kisses.

Are you still talking to "him"? I hope he's listening.

I never felt the need to have make-believe friends.

Anyone remember when he believed South West Trains didn't like rugby fans? I liked him back then.

Ah, bless.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
SimonG19 (IP Logged)
19 July, 2017 15:14
Could this thread be renamed Two Total @#$%& Have an Argument?

 
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blucherquin (IP Logged)
19 July, 2017 16:28
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

I'm sure he'll be devastated. Whoever "he" might be.

Still hearing those voices?

Given up? You were doing so well. Big kisses.

Are you still talking to "him"? I hope he's listening.

I never felt the need to have make-believe friends.

Anyone remember when he believed South West Trains didn't like rugby fans? I liked him back then.

Ah, bless.

Still going?

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
19 July, 2017 18:43
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good job First MTR takeover running this line in August, it will all be so much better won't it?

What's going to really upset him is that Twickenham station is now the scene of major building works for the next two years, so even when the trains are running it's going to be pretty unpleasant.

I'm sure he'll be devastated. Whoever "he" might be.

Still hearing those voices?

Given up? You were doing so well. Big kisses.

Are you still talking to "him"? I hope he's listening.

I never felt the need to have make-believe friends.

Anyone remember when he believed South West Trains didn't like rugby fans? I liked him back then.

Ah, bless.

Still going?

Is he?

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
19 July, 2017 20:42
I have in my hands the last word... who's going to start the bidding? Do I hear 1p? 1p anyone?

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
19 July, 2017 21:38
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I have in my hands the last word... who's going to start the bidding? Do I hear 1p? 1p anyone?

Have you any idea who "he" is? Old Bluchy seems fixated on someone...

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
20 July, 2017 10:27
I presume he is the cat's father?

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
21 July, 2017 11:52
Yes I do really think we need a little paws for thought here.

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
23 July, 2017 18:55
Blimey this thread has legs hasn't it????? Sorry.....ANYONE who worries even slightly about possible issues 10 months away seriously needs help! Live for the moment guys!! (Sm159)

 
Re: Army/Navy Game clash
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
23 July, 2017 19:01
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Blimey this thread has legs hasn't it????? Sorry.....ANYONE who worries even slightly about possible issues 10 months away seriously needs help! Live for the moment guys!! (Sm159)

HESM: The reason I raised it now is that now is the best time to raise it if there is a chance to re-jig the fixture list, move the AvN game etc, as there is plenty of warning. If we raise a fuss with a couple of months to go, then it's too late, as tickets have been sold, etc.


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