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JK Out
COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 00:43
the sooner he goes the better _ he's a complete joke.

 
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COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 07:39
Mediocre is the best we can hope for under this set up - very sad and frustrating.

 
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blucherquin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 07:40
Any chance we can stick to one JK out thread? I mean its charming that you like repeating yourself but in the absence of any new opinions or changing facts....

 
Re: JK Out
01 October, 2017 07:55
I know I know that it is ridiculous.....but even watching him watching a game annoys me, you watch Baxter...he is constantly talking. advising, tweaking....camera ever cuts to JK he is slumped forward looking clueless!!.....and don't get me started on his post match interviews!!!!

 
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dancing quin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 08:22
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I know I know that it is ridiculous.....but even watching him watching a game annoys me, you watch Baxter...he is constantly talking. advising, tweaking....camera ever cuts to JK he is slumped forward looking clueless!!.....and don't get me started on his post match interviews!!!!

So all a coach has to do to be more competent is talk frequently into a walkie-talkie and be good in front of a camera?

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 08:41
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Any chance we can stick to one �JK out� thread? I mean it�s charming that you like repeating yourself but in the absence of any new opinions or changing facts....

I'm afraid you're wasting your time. Look at who started the thread.

 
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MrOther (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 09:32
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Any chance we can stick to one JK out thread? ...

I believe that some message board software allows a moderator to merge threads.

 
Re: JK Out
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 09:40
Can we merge COYQ into the sea?



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: JK Out
PeterboroughQuin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 09:56
The Tigers and Saints games have been close where Quins could have won but it was them who scored towards the end and not Quins. Its all pretty close at the moment, fine margains and all that. We need to give JK up to the end of December and see how we are. Have our new signings stepped in and been good enough for cover when our internationals werent available? We'll see.

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 10:00
I think 3 seasons is a fair number to give a DOR. Let's reconvene in May 2019.

 
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RleQuin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 10:56
JK and his coaches are taking us nowhere. We are now a confirmed mediocre, inconsistent rabble who talk as if they are the best club in the World.
It would be laughable if it wasn't so annoying!!
Luckily there appears to be at least two terrible teams so we should be able to stay up.
RleQ

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 10:58
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I think 3 seasons is a fair number to give a DOR. Let's reconvene in May 2019.

That seems reasonable. So much so that it will go way over the heads of some posters.

As COS always said, nothing is won or lost at this stage of the season.

 
Re: JK Out
RleQuin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:02
QK, I hope think you'll find that it is more than possible to lose the title at this stage.
We are already 9 points behind the leaders and given our results recently, it won't be too long before we are way, way behind.
RleQ

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:09
I think if we continue to have those 22 injured players out for the rest of the season you may be right.

 
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RleQuin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:30
Talking of which, did anyone ever hear about the results of the review into all the injuries last season that JK was having done?
RleQ

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:33
I have no idea what you're talking about but I'm sure it reflects very badly on JK.

 
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COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:50
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Talking of which, did anyone ever hear about the results of the review into all the injuries last season that JK was having done?
RleQ

A very good question!

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:42
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Talking of which, did anyone ever hear about the results of the review into all the injuries last season that JK was having done?
RleQ

A very good question!

It's truly fantastic isn't it?

 
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COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:54
Well - if you review something - and at the same time tell people that it's very important - surely you expect lessons to be learnt / improvement to be made?



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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:51
And it's to his great shame that he hasn't penned personal notes to us all on this matter. Baxter would have written his notes in glitter ink. Even Cockerill would have put a paw print next to his signature to show that his 10 year old ginger tom was also thinking of us.

 
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Jammy Git (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 11:54
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PeterboroughQuin
The Tigers and Saints games have been close where Quins could have won but it was them who scored towards the end and not Quins. Its all pretty close at the moment, fine margains and all that. We need to give JK up to the end of December and see how we are. Have our new signings stepped in and been good enough for cover when our internationals werent available? We'll see.

Hopefully we will - we've only had a few minutes of Catrikilis so far and neither Bothma nor Saili have played yet.

Glynn's had more game time than I'd have liked, though.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 12:14
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QK, I hope think you'll find that it is more than possible to lose the title at this stage.
We are already 9 points behind the leaders and given our results recently, it won't be too long before we are way, way behind.
RleQ

Since the title is decided from the top four spots at the end of the regular season, it's also possible that we could win it again.

Given that there's only one title and 12 challengers, I'm going to confidently predict that there will be 11 teams who don't win it. I'm also sure that the winner won't be chosen on the basis of a small number of games; in fact, it will be more about their results over 22 games, then for the best 4 teams it will come down to how the fare over two further games.

But hey, let's judge our future games on how many points we get from games in which we were bringing through academy guys due to being shorn of 22 players.

 
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Scaramouche (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 12:45
Didn't somebody say Exeter lost about 8 games in a row at the start of last year?



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blucherquin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 12:57
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COYQ_2017
Well - if you review something - and at the same time tell people that it's very important - surely you expect lessons to be learnt / improvement to be made?

Of course they may well have completed it, learned lessons and simply decided its none of your business what the results were since youre not part of the coaching or medical team.

 
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RleQuin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 13:09
They might well have done but given the amount of rubbish the club puts out, it might have been nice to at least tell us that it had been done and they did or didn't find anything.
It's a bit like the bond farce - announcement made then silence as if it was never said.
Cut out the garbage and keep the info interesting!
RleQ

 
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RleQuin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 13:15
Since the title is decided from the top four spots at the end of the regular season, it's also possible that we could win it again.

Given that there's only one title and 12 challengers, I'm going to confidently predict that there will be 11 teams who don't win it. I'm also sure that the winner won't be chosen on the basis of a small number of games; in fact, it will be more about their results over 22 games, then for the best 4 teams it will come down to how the fare over two further games.

But hey, let's judge our future games on how many points we get from games in which we were bringing through academy guys due to being shorn of 22 players.[/quote]

Of course you can as anyone knows only one team can win it. The problem is that we aren't going to go on a massive winning run are we. If we do I will be the first to admit I was wrong.
You mention the injured 22 - this surely has to be a conditioning or over training problem.
It seems to get worse every season.
RleQ

 
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SiBolton (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 14:19
Oh so happy there's another one of these threads

How about, " Here's the answer" thread

Would love to know how the " experts " would fix the problems?
and maybe identifying what exactly is so wrong, not just we've lost! He must go! Etc

Did anyone actually expect us to win yesterday with 20 odd players missing?
Was our performance really that bad?

 
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RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 14:35
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dancing quin
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Harleys Evil Step Mum
I know I know that it is ridiculous.....but even watching him watching a game annoys me, you watch Baxter...he is constantly talking. advising, tweaking....camera ever cuts to JK he is slumped forward looking clueless!!.....and don't get me started on his post match interviews!!!!

So all a coach has to do to be more competent is talk frequently into a walkie-talkie and be good in front of a camera?

Yes. That's exactly what he said.

 
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T-Bone (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 15:03
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SiBolton
Oh so happy there's another one of these threads
How about, " Here's the answer" thread

Would love to know how the " experts " would fix the problems?
and maybe identifying what exactly is so wrong, not just we've lost! He must go! Etc

Did anyone actually expect us to win yesterday with 20 odd players missing?
Was our performance really that bad?

Drop players who constantly give away needless penalties? Drop players who can't perform their basic tasks properly?

I didn't expect us to win, which is the sad thing. I didn't expect us to beat a team we finished above last season. A lot of fans are fine with that. Some of us aren't. I enjoy my trips to the rugby more or less regardless of the result, it's just a shame that there are plenty of games I don't expect us to win, where not getting jumped is seen as an achievement in itself

 
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Almost quin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 15:56
Yawn

 
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Dibden (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 16:03
Suggested solution.Bring a new CEO who is a rugby man and let him decide whether JK is the right man to take us forward.

 
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Mayor West (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 16:08
Is there a Young out thread on the Wasps site because I would say that their position is a lot worse than ours considering last season.

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 16:15
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Is there a Young out thread on the Wasps site because I would say that their position is a lot worse than ours considering last season.

If they lose another bunch of games there will undoubtedly be calls for his head from some fans. Fans can be very fickle and some can think they're owed success of their own determination.

 
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Mayor West (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 16:45
Mallinder was in trouble last season, he stayed and turned it round. First game excepted. I suppose JK's situation isn't quite the same. Cockers got the chop, normal service resumed at Tigers after a wobble. No change at Gloucester. Twist or stick. It must be tough knowing that your future could be determined by a couple of poor ref descisions.

 
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RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 17:34
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Scaramouche
Didn't somebody say Exeter lost about 8 games in a row at the start of last year?

Probably. So did bristol...

Lots of teams come back after terrible starts, Leicester did it year after year.

It doesn't make it a good thing.

 
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COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 19:05
Why should Kingston stay? What are his positives?

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 19:38
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COYQ_2017
Why should Kingston stay? What are his positives?

Why should you stay? What are your positives?

 
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COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 21:08
😂😂😂😂😂 I'm not the DOR - although I suspect I'd do a much better job - as would most people! That's how bad JK is im afraid.



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blucherquin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 21:07
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Dibden
Suggested solution.Bring a new CEO who is a rugby man and let him decide whether JK is the right man to take us forward.

The very last thing we need is a CEO with any romance about rugby - we need a profitable business.

 
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COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 21:38
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Suggested solution.Bring a new CEO who is a rugby man and let him decide whether JK is the right man to take us forward.

The very last thing we need is a CEO with any romance about rugby - we need a profitable business.

Why should a CEO or DOR need any rugby knowledge to be appointed - and kept on - at Quins?

 
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blucherquin (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 21:48
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COYQ_2017
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Suggested solution.Bring a new CEO who is a rugby man and let him decide whether JK is the right man to take us forward.

The very last thing we need is a CEO with any romance about rugby - we need a profitable business.

Why should a CEO or DOR need any rugby knowledge to be appointed - and kept on - at Quins?

Youre really rather sweet. Bless you and good luck with your rehabilitation.

 
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COYQ_2017 (IP Logged)
01 October, 2017 22:11
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Dibden
Suggested solution.Bring a new CEO who is a rugby man and let him decide whether JK is the right man to take us forward.

The very last thing we need is a CEO with any romance about rugby - we need a profitable business.

Why should a CEO or DOR need any rugby knowledge to be appointed - and kept on - at Quins?

You�re really rather sweet. Bless you and good luck with your rehabilitation.

What do you mean?

Do you think Kingston is doing a good job, a DOR who is respected by players and fans alike?

 
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Jammy Git (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 10:06
You may dislike the guy to an obsessive level but it's very clear he's very well respected by players and other coaches.

The fans? Who gives a toss whether they/we respect him, frankly.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
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Scaramouche (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 10:13
They may not give a toss about the fans respect for JK but that will change if Ticket and Merchandise sales start to falter.



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DOK (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 12:33
In all the time Mark Evans dragged us from the 19th to the 21st century, ticket sales, season tickets and concession income went up year after year. Not everyone comes to watch Harlequins pick up silverware, lots of people are looking for entertainment, fresh air, a good family day out and if that doesn't include a Harlequins win then they can live with that.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 12:36
Or we could be like Sarries... winning pretty much all there is to win. Great atmosphere? Enormous crowds? Entertainment?

 
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DOK (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 12:39
Ah, but didn't someone tell us recently that silverware is the only way to be judged and without it you are nothing?

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 12:46
Yes they did DOK. Probably because it's a stick to beat the club with. Always ignoring the fact that no silverware has been won by any team this season.

 
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RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 12:53
You should make that your signature Slinky.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 13:01
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You should make that your signature Slinky.

No need, Rod. It's a simple fact that everyone knows, but some wish to ignore.

 
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Cookie (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 13:55
I do think it's ok to voice concern and frustration before we are mathematically out of the hunt for the Premiership and/or Champions Cup.

Fiddling while Rome burns and all that. There is a balance.

But I similarly don't think the last 2 results are worthy of an apocalyptic response, albeit we seem to keep making the same mistakes over and over. The Irish result still rankles, but there has been a lot to like since even if we are now W2 L3.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 14:23
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I do think it's ok to voice concern and frustration before we are mathematically out of the hunt for the Premiership and/or Champions Cup.
Fiddling while Rome burns and all that. There is a balance.

But I similarly don't think the last 2 results are worthy of an apocalyptic response, albeit we seem to keep making the same mistakes over and over. The Irish result still rankles, but there has been a lot to like since even if we are now W2 L3.

Indeed Cookie. For a while now there have been posters claiming that we don't have to win every game, we just have to play a lot better. In the past couple of games - which we could easily have won but for a few decisions - I've seen some very good rugby. Not for 80 minutes, but definitely an improvement. Add to that the squad we had for Saturday and I'd say we did a lot better than expected.

As for Rome, it wasn't built in a day...

 
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DOK (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 15:35
I was expecting a lot worse from a scratch squad like that. It's not just the number of players out, but the quality of them. Jamie Roberts said we should have won that, and he was right. We conspired to defeat ourselves (thanks Merrick!), but our team was certainly competitive.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 15:52
As I mentioned elsewhere DOK, some players really stood up to be counted. Ironically it was particularly the younger guys - Smith, White, Lamb - who caught the eye. Roberts had a strong game too.

 
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Cookie (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 16:20
Not sure Lamb's 9 mins were anything to write home about. But fair play to White - didn't realise he'd come on as early as he did, although White only managed one tackle.

But it proves the Ben Glynn at 6 experiment needs to be ended.

Also worrying that Clifford missed 5 tackles in the game. It's becoming a bit of a trend.

 
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Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 16:54
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Cookie
Not sure Lamb's 9 mins were anything to write home about. But fair play to White - didn't realise he'd come on as early as he did, although White only managed one tackle.
But it proves the Ben Glynn at 6 experiment needs to be ended.

Also worrying that Clifford missed 5 tackles in the game. It's becoming a bit of a trend.

Didn't White also manage a couple of turnovers? I don't generally look at stats but I thought White featured quite a bit. Clifford looked a lot better than those numbers suggest too.

 
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SiBolton (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 17:59
Dont think jack had his best day, but Lambo was excellent, and also thought Morris was great at full back, glad we kept hold of hi. That's for sure

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 18:08
Lambo wasn't excellent when he touched up North instead of tackling him when he scored.

 
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SiBolton (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 18:11
Ok so one sloppy tackle negates the rest of his efforts

 
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Jammy Git (IP Logged)
02 October, 2017 19:02
Clifford's tackling stats so far this season:

5/1
11/0
9/3
12/2
17/5

forgive me, I can't really see a trend there.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
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T-Bone (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 11:10
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SiBolton
Ok so one sloppy tackle negates the rest of his efforts

I've only seen the highlights, but saw couple of great carries from Lambert, then a fairly weak effort (along with a few others) to stop North's try. What the highlights didn't show was scrums, so can't comment on that.

 
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Cookie (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 11:47
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Ok so one sloppy tackle negates the rest of his efforts

I've only seen the highlights, but saw couple of great carries from Lambert, then a fairly weak effort (along with a few others) to stop North's try. What the highlights didn't show was scrums, so can't comment on that.

Per my match report, we were annihilated in the scrums. And I don't think of Saints as having a particularly powerful pack.

 
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PeterboroughQuin (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 12:45
Quins are basically like Arsenal. They once were but still think they are a big club but are in decline.

 
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Cookie (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 12:46
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Quins are basically like Arsenal. They once were but still think they are a big club but are in decline.

And I support both! Oh and Middlesex CCC who just got relegated.

 
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HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 13:45
Looks like our best chance of silverware. Up the girls!!!

 
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Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 13:53
What, all of them? Got a team photo please?

 
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Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 13:58
They don't have a full section on the website (as yet) but they do have a Facebook page. Personally, I'd like the club to set up a proper subsection on the quins.co.uk site for the womens' team, with a fixture list, news, and player profiles.

 
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GP2110 (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 15:14
The FB page is interesting.

It has 679 followers. The men's page has 105,354 followers.

Whilst I have nothing against women's sport, I find it baffling how much the media is trying to push it when the vast majority of people have very little or no interest.

Manchester United, for example, do not have a women's team because their analysis shows that it would draw less interest than the youth teams. It (i) does not generate any substantial revenue; (ii) does mot enhance the brand; and (iii) costs a lot of money to maintain.

Given how much money MU has (just as an example) compared to Quins, I wonder how much Quins actually spend on the Women's game and what, if anything, the clubs gets in return.



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HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 15:30
I know our game was the first of the new Prem to be live streamed (I am pretty sure that some are being shown live on Sky or BT). Nearly 53,000 watched the stream which is not bad. While I do not see it being bigger than the mens game (that being true for cricket, football and rugby) I can see them being big enough to financial viable. The cricket womens world cup got a full house at Lords in the summer, the Womens football is getting decent crowds for internationals and also the cup final.

 
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GP2110 (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 15:43
According to [rugby.statbunker.com]

(which was the first website I found from a quick google), the average attendance across the Womens Six Nations 2016 was 3,290. I struggle to see how that is viable.

I would very much like to know the average attendance for a Quins' Ladies games.



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HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 15:57
At the moment I would guess that sponsorship and TV money would account for most of the revenue for the womens game rather than bodies through the gate (although that would need to improve). In terms of the leagues (cricket, football and rugby) rugby is very much a new competition (the first season is only 3 games old!!). I am not even sure that quins charge to attend games at SSP. Not being involved at Quins (So I am guessing here) that the club are looking to get in on the action from the outset, in the hope/expectation that the womens game will only get stronger/bigger.

 
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T-Bone (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 16:06
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At the moment I would guess that sponsorship and TV money would account for most of the revenue for the womens game rather than bodies through the gate (although that would need to improve). In terms of the leagues (cricket, football and rugby) rugby is very much a new competition (the first season is only 3 games old!!). I am not even sure that quins charge to attend games at SSP. Not being involved at Quins (So I am guessing here) that the club are looking to get in on the action from the outset, in the hope/expectation that the womens game will only get stronger/bigger.

Sponsorship and TV money account for most the revenue for the men's game too to be fair.

The RFU gave a big chunk of money to help set up the new league, so not sure what the financial burden is on the clubs. I'm pretty sure that the players are still amateur, just benefitting from a more professional set up. Am I right in thinking that? (other than the contracted England players). So other than Quins plugging it via social media, not sure if there's that much cost to Quins at the moment, so I guess it's win/win for the club until they have to start paying the players. Could be completely wrong, but that was my understanding from various different things I've read.

In terms of the numbers watching the stream, is there any way of telling how many watched the whole game? I watched for a bit but then stopped (as I had something else to do, not due to the quality). Not making any point, just wondered if there's a way of telling?

 
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Jammy Git (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 16:07
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GP2110
According to [rugby.statbunker.com]
(which was the first website I found from a quick google), the average attendance across the Womens Six Nations 2016 was 3,290. I struggle to see how that is viable.

I would very much like to know the average attendance for a Quins' Ladies games.

Premiership sides were getting about that at the start of the professional era.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
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GP2110 (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 16:16
I suspect the women's Premiership figures are significantly less than the international figures.

 
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GP2110 (IP Logged)
03 October, 2017 16:19
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At the moment I would guess that sponsorship and TV money would account for most of the revenue for the womens game rather than bodies through the gate (although that would need to improve). In terms of the leagues (cricket, football and rugby) rugby is very much a new competition (the first season is only 3 games old!!). I am not even sure that quins charge to attend games at SSP. Not being involved at Quins (So I am guessing here) that the club are looking to get in on the action from the outset, in the hope/expectation that the womens game will only get stronger/bigger.

Sponsorship and TV money account for most the revenue for the men's game too to be fair.

The RFU gave a big chunk of money to help set up the new league, so not sure what the financial burden is on the clubs. I'm pretty sure that the players are still amateur, just benefitting from a more professional set up. Am I right in thinking that? (other than the contracted England players). So other than Quins plugging it via social media, not sure if there's that much cost to Quins at the moment, so I guess it's win/win for the club until they have to start paying the players. Could be completely wrong, but that was my understanding from various different things I've read.

In terms of the numbers watching the stream, is there any way of telling how many watched the whole game? I watched for a bit but then stopped (as I had something else to do, not due to the quality). Not making any point, just wondered if there's a way of telling?

if true that there is no little or no financial burden on the club, then I tend to agree that it is win / win for the club. I think my irk is that I feel that women's sport (not just rugby) is slowly being forced more and more upon us in many cases.

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