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Re: Yarde off to Sale
Stooperman (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 12:59
Well, if the above articles are correct, JK acted in absolutely the right way. It might have cost us a bit of money, but it will pay dividends with a happier and more disciplined squad in the long term.

Well done JK.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 13:10
Faints.....



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Re: Yarde off to Sale
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 13:16
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I'll look forward to the threatening letter from the Times' lawyers, cookie. Seriously, thanks for posting!

Heehee! I'm not sure on the legalities, I must admit and I did think twice about posting it. I guess we might be finding out soon!

If the times cared about copy and paste they'd use code to stop it. They want people to pay to see content, they don't care if people see the content without paying.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 13:17
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Stooperman
Well, if the above articles are correct, JK acted in absolutely the right way. It might have cost us a bit of money, but it will pay dividends with a happier and more disciplined squad in the long term.
Well done JK.

And sends a powerful message to the rest of the squad.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
RleQuin (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 13:17
Time to Drain The Swamp!
RleQ

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 13:19
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Stooperman
Its anothe rfluff up isn't it? Any way you look at it, this is a monumental cock up for Quins.
If he stays, he'll be demotivated and pretty much an outcast. If he goes, Diamond will have slashed the amount he is paying to buy out the contract.

Smacks of inept transfer dealings...again!


Quote:
Stooperman
Well, if the above articles are correct, JK acted in absolutely the right way. It might have cost us a bit of money, but it will pay dividends with a happier and more disciplined squad in the long term.
Well done JK.

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Re: Yarde off to Sale
Stooperman (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 13:46
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Quinten Poulsen
Quote:
Stooperman
Its anothe rfluff up isn't it? Any way you look at it, this is a monumental cock up for Quins.
If he stays, he'll be demotivated and pretty much an outcast. If he goes, Diamond will have slashed the amount he is paying to buy out the contract.

Smacks of inept transfer dealings...again!


Quote:
Stooperman
Well, if the above articles are correct, JK acted in absolutely the right way. It might have cost us a bit of money, but it will pay dividends with a happier and more disciplined squad in the long term.
Well done JK.

eye popping smiley

QP, the man who could pick a fight in a phone box!

You see what happened is that more information became available, & having read the extent of Yarde's misdemeanours, & the fact that the squad had helped to shape and agree on a code of conduct, it became apparent to me that my previous stance was wrong. As I am a mature and balanced individual, I was able to change my opinion once I had access to more information.

You should try it sometime QP.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
31 October, 2017 13:51
Hello interloper here

Interesting article, if 100% true of course.

From a neutral point of view it would interesting to hear Yarde's side of the story. Turning up late for matches isn't a good look, but it seems like something is missing in the Times story for that to escalate to "let's gets rid". Clearly something came to a head for him to be dropped for your match against us two weeks ago.

Ego may have played a part in not wanting to take part in A league match (even the great Paul Scholes refused to play for Man United in a reserves match - to use an example from football).

As Quins side of the story is out in the open, that's the narrative (to use a wanky word) that's going to stick until this all blows over/ends with transfer.



If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score? - Vince Lombardi

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 14:01
Stooperman, come one - that bit about monumental cock up was something you made up in your own mind with no evidence to support it! Plus I'd assumed you'd read the links that had already been posted before your comment, which made it quite clear that Marland had a track record of missing training.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
T-Bone (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 14:49
Need to hear Yarde's side of the story before coming to9 final judgement but sounds to me like JK has done completely the right thing. It's a real shame this has happened now when he's been playing some of his best rugby for us. Attitude on the pitch seemed much better to me this season, bar one occasion when he allowed a player to run the ball under the posts because he didn't want to chase for another 5m.

Anyone, shame for Yarde, but seemingly of his own making. Leaves us exposed if Walker is injured or Visser called up, but a chance for Alofa to play more, and we also have Morris and Chisholm, with academy prospects to hopefully step up next year.

It is interesting to hear that JK felt discipline was such as issue that he imposed his own structure rather than one the players drew up and signed up to. Slightly disappointing he felt the need to do that but good on him for doing it.

Now he's stood up to the senior players, he just needs to stand up to Easter! (joking)

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Stooperman (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 15:24
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Quinten Poulsen
Stooperman, come one - that bit about monumental cock up was something you made up in your own mind with no evidence to support it! Plus I'd assumed you'd read the links that had already been posted before your comment, which made it quite clear that Marland had a track record of missing training.

You mean this link?
[www.express.co.uk]

this link?

[www.theguardian.com]

This link about Marland's imrpoved attitude?

[www.planetrugby.com]

This link?

[www.punditarena.com]


None of which make it clear that Marland had a track record of missing training.

OR this one link which is gives the missing training three times explanation?

[www.independent.co.uk]


You are the one making things up without evidence as usual QP. Why do you enjoy trolling these boards so much?

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 15:29
I really should have known better. You can't even take the mildest of criticism or someone disagreeing with you. It always has to get personal with you.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Stooperman (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 15:41
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Quinten Poulsen
I really should have known better. You can't even take the mildest of criticism or someone disagreeing with you. It always has to get personal with you.

Don't try to take the high ground now, QP. YOu didn't disagree with me, or politely enquire what had made me change my mind or whether I had noticed that my two posts were inconsistent. I'm fully aware that I had changed my mind, as I said its what people do when new eveidence comes to light.

Instead you posted a sarcy little emoji. And then when I explained why I had changed my mind, you posted a silly little comment about previous links. When I pointed out that there was a preponderance of evidence that did not support your snide assertion, you fell back on whining about how I respond to criticiem.

I've never met you in real life, but perhaps it would be a good idea so that we could have a pint and try to discover exactly why we clash so much on these boards. It seems to me you spend an awful lot of time picking people up on things and posting corrections to things people say which you don't agree with. It annoys the hell out of me, but I'm sure that in real life its said with an ironic wink or a playful grin.

So, although I'm aware that you don't attend many games these days, the offer still stands. Lets have a beer and resolve our differences rather than bore the good folk of these boards yet again.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 16:08
I've got a season ticket again so happy to have a beer with you at the next home game.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
blucherquin (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 16:09
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I've got a season ticket again so happy to have a beer with you at the next home game.

"Just the two of us...we can make it if we try...just the two of us...."

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 16:37
Anybody ever seen Quinten Poulsen and Jammy Git in the same room?



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Re: Yarde off to Sale
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 16:37
Loads of people smiling smiley



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semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 16:38
(and for the record I agree with Stooperman!)



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 17:10
We wanna be toogevverr


QP and JG


[uk.images.search.yahoo.com]



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Re: Yarde off to Sale
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
31 October, 2017 18:52
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Time Lord
QP, the man who could pick a fight in a phone box!

QP is Dr Who and I claim 5 daleks...

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
ChipsteadQuin (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 12:35
Regardless of the reasons no point hanging onto a player who doesn't want to be here .

[www.independent.co.uk]

He's always been a good 'open field' player but sadly the AVP gives wingers less and less space , and his defence is sometimes questionable --he is prone to throwing his arms out and looking at others .

His track record for England is Ok , but recently EJ has said his lack of scoring is the main reason he's not with England and so this is why I don't get the move to Sale , if he is determined to get another England call up

They have good wingers in McGuigan and Solomona and back up from Charnley and Addison so is he really just going as International cover and hope one of them gets injured ?

SD says he is embarking on recruiting International class players , JK has been keen to lose British Internationals as he says it disrupts the season when the Ai's and 6N 's are on .. interesting times

Wish you well Marland up't'north..

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
quin_jon (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 13:33
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Time Lord
QP, the man who could pick a fight in a phone box!

Isn't it "side-step someone in a phone box"

and

"pick a fight with a mirror"

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 14:05
re: Internationals, Diamond is probably just being realistic about how hard it is to get/keep top quality players if they feel that playing for Sale isn't going to get them selected for England. A lot of players have left Sale for "bigger" clubs.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
blucherquin (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 16:28
Well he turned up on time for something at last, here's Yarde with a Sale shirt

[www.therugbypaper.co.uk]

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Navyquin (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 16:39
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blucherquin
Well he turned up on time for something at last, here's Yarde with a Sale shirt
[www.therugbypaper.co.uk]

Looks like he couldn't quite manage to suss the button system on his own shirt however.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Dibden (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 17:36
I’ve only read a few posts but no one knows why Yarde behaved as he did.IHe was one assumes ok until this season so why the change in his behaviour in the first 2 months of the new season.We can’t really afford to lose a 25yr old international who was let go mid contract but was immediately snapped up by Sale who can see his value and will have heard his side of the story.
JK says he had a great relationship—Given What has happened a failed relationship is more accurate.Nobody comes out of this in credit in my view.We all lose

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
PeterboroughQuin (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 17:54
A backward step for Yarde. Good luck to him but not sorry he left.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
QuinAlan (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 18:15
Wasnt that good anyway. Reading other boards, no-one rates him or wanted him. Think we can get better to replace him. If he reckons Sale is better for his prospects then best of luck. Move on.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 18:55
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QuinAlan
Wasnt that good anyway. Reading other boards, no-one rates him or wanted him. Think we can get better to replace him. If he reckons Sale is better for his prospects then best of luck. Move on.

To be honest a lot of club supporters don't rate a lot of other players until they start playing for them...

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 19:04
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Dibden
I’ve only read a few posts but no one knows why Yarde behaved as he did.IHe was one assumes ok until this season so why the change in his behaviour in the first 2 months of the new season.We can’t really afford to lose a 25yr old international who was let go mid contract but was immediately snapped up by Sale who can see his value and will have heard his side of the story.
JK says he had a great relationship—Given What has happened a failed relationship is more accurate.Nobody comes out of this in credit in my view.We all lose

It's a massive assumption that he was fine before this season, because everything that's been written so far, including Eddie Jones' comments last season, suggest he's had issues for a while.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Samquin (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 19:45
Sounds like Yarde may be on the cards for an England call with May and Nowell crocked.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 20:31
Would like to see Woodburn or Earles. Bassett must be in with a chance also

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
MrOther (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 21:45
Marland Yarde is a management challenge.

I have absolutely no first hand evidence for this assertion, but I believe and assert it nonetheless. It’s written all over the man. In this respect a greater contrast with Ugo Monye is difficult to imagine.

When he shows up, he’s fantastic. When he’s doing his surly superstar turn, we’re better off without him.

I wish him well, but I’m not convinced Sale will have any more luck with him than we have had.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Robertquin (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 22:13
I find this all a bit odd really. Until this season I've always had the impression he's been rather aloof and doing us a favour by playing - with the odd flash of brilliance - but this season he looked to have been more settled and aggressive as a player. Then this...

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Quins4life (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 22:15
Robshaw has come out and backed Kingston over the decision. Seems like he may have irritated more than just the coaching staff.

[www.telegraph.co.uk]

"The injury crisis that England face on the wing after Jonny May was ruled out of immediate contention will not be easily resolved by summoning Marland Yarde after the former Harlequins’ wing was criticised by his recent club team-mate, Chris Robshaw, for letting down the club following his transfer to Sale Sharks. Harlequins’ patience with Yarde ran out after a string of time-keeping issues finally led to him being dropped for the match against Wasps triggering the switch of clubs.

As far as Robshaw is concerned, there is no regret at Yarde’s departure.

“Marland has run out of lives and as a club we are going to be in a better place now,” said Robshaw. “I am disappointed in him. It's a massive shame for the club because he's a talented player but [director of rugby] John [Kingston] has made a great stance.”

Yarde is one of the possible replacements for May who is expected to miss the opening game of the Old Mutual Wealth series after damaging a hamstring in training on Tuesday. Yarde has been in and out of the England squad over the past couple of years but was the starting wing in both Tests against Argentina in the summer and has a career total of eight tries in 13 appearances. However this latest indiscretion and the mood among the Harlequins players are sure to count against him."

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 23:08
I believe what Robshaw says...

Damning words.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
01 November, 2017 23:30
Jesus. If you've upset Robshaw you've really messed up.



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semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 00:35
I wonder if Robshaw has been put up as a symbolic spokesperson? It would be hard to find a more damning indictment than the words of the consummate professional.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 00:20
From ESPN:

Quote:
For such a senior player to make his thoughts public, combined with the unusually critical tone of Robshaw's comments, reflects the extent of Yarde's fall from grace at Harlequins and it must now be seen whether Jones shares an equally dim view of conduct that was first regarded as problematic at Twickenham Stoop three seasons ago.

So no, not just this season.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 08:15
It was mentioned in one report that Yardes "issues" are not confined to this season. He has missed training on occasions going back 3 years

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 08:24
Dry anal dream has been a very naughty boy for at least 10 years...

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 09:14
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Bolly-Quin
Dry anal dream has been a very naughty boy for at least 10 years...

Fantastic.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Dibden (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 09:18
Now I’ve seen what Chris Robshaw has said Yarde has brought this on himself and JK has taken the correct action.Lets hope removing this disruptive player aids dressing room togetherness

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
ChiddQuin (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 10:12
The Times says " his (Robshaw's) views are shared by England’s Harlequins contingent of Mike Brown, Danny Care and Joe Marler, all of whom are senior players within the squad."

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 11:06
Has Joe tweeted about this? He's usually a good barometer, and marvellously blunt.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
T-Bone (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 10:52
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Quinky Kin
Has Joe tweeted about this? He's usually a good barometer, and marvellously blunt.

Mike "liked" the tweet reporting Robshaw's comments.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Man from LA (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 11:47
Good for JK, he deserves credit for his stance.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 12:01
Marland Yarde's Statement

[www.punditarena.com]



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Re: Yarde off to Sale
DOK (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 12:04
That's nice - a professional "thank you" statement, no whinges, no complaints. Good for Marland.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Pimpernel44 (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 14:56
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RodneyRegis
If the times cared about copy and paste they'd use code to stop it.

Unless, of course, they understand that it's actually impossible to do that. Yes you can use some silly script or CSS to disable this and that in the browser, but it's laughably easy to get round. Once the content is on your computer no-one can stop you grabbing it if you know where to look.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Cookie (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 16:12
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DOK
That's nice - a professional "thank you" statement, no whinges, no complaints. Good for Marland.

Marland who?

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
MrOther (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 17:01
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Cookie
Quote:
DOK
That's nice - a professional "thank you" statement, no whinges, no complaints. Good for Marland.

Marland who?

Good attitude.

Clear out. Move on.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 18:18
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Pimpernel44
Quote:
RodneyRegis
If the times cared about copy and paste they'd use code to stop it.

Unless, of course, they understand that it's actually impossible to do that. Yes you can use some silly script or CSS to disable this and that in the browser, but it's laughably easy to get round. Once the content is on your computer no-one can stop you grabbing it if you know where to look.

Absolutely, but it's more effort for your run of the mill forum user. As above, only a selection of people know how to press Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V...

If they cared they would put up some kind of barrier. Just because they charge for content doesn't mean they don't want people to see it.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
blucherquin (IP Logged)
02 November, 2017 20:13
Quote:
MrOther
Quote:
Cookie
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DOK
That's nice - a professional "thank you" statement, no whinges, no complaints. Good for Marland.

Marland who?

Good attitude.

Clear out. Move on.

Finally someone with some idea of how to coach our defence.....

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
03 November, 2017 00:44
smiling smiley



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Re: Yarde off to Sale
OldMarovian (IP Logged)
03 November, 2017 15:51
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RodneyRegis
To be honest a lot of club supporters don't rate a lot of other players until they start playing for them...

There is a twenty-mile queue on the Leicester road to Damascus with regards of Jonny May.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
04 November, 2017 14:09
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OldMarovian
Quote:
RodneyRegis
To be honest a lot of club supporters don't rate a lot of other players until they start playing for them...

There is a twenty-mile queue on the Leicester road to Damascus with regards of Jonny May.

The perfect example smiling smiley

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
04 November, 2017 15:01
Current rumour in the Torygraph is that we're after Nathan Earle from Sarries as a replacement for Yarde.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Bedfordshire Boy (IP Logged)
05 November, 2017 08:15
Torygraph is a bit late with that one, the story kicked off at the same time as the Yarde rumours started.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Nemoquin (IP Logged)
05 November, 2017 14:01
According to the TRP David Strettle has been told by Clermont that he won't get a new contract at the end of the season.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
raedarius (IP Logged)
05 November, 2017 14:25
He's 34, so no huge surprise there.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Nemoquin (IP Logged)
05 November, 2017 16:58
According to the TRP David Strettle has been told by Clermont that he won't get a new contract at the end of the season.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
raedarius (IP Logged)
05 November, 2017 17:14
He's 34, so no huge surprise there.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
MrOther (IP Logged)
05 November, 2017 17:25
"Apparently" David Strettle has been told by Clermont that he won't get a new contract at the end of the season.

Is that a surprise? He must be getting on a bit?

;-)

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Robertquin (IP Logged)
05 November, 2017 19:50
34 I hear.

 
Re: Yarde off to Sale
Candelamaria (IP Logged)
06 November, 2017 13:16
For both Robshaw and Moyne to speak out, now that is saying something. It be interesting to see what the camp be like when they come back from international duties!

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