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Interesting comments from Ugo on the Beeb article, sounds like spoilt brat
Liked watching him sometimes, but good riddance
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Interesting comments from Ugo on the Beeb article, sounds like spoilt brat
Liked watching him sometimes, but good riddance
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Confusing comments by JK about someone he's effectively sacked. If he's been a prat, say as much, don't flower it up.
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Can someone explain how this move has come about. Never heard of a mid season transfer, and thought player contracts etc are not to be decided until January. Why has this one been allowed?
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Can also be a money decision. Get a big salary off your books saves some money on the budget which can be used elsewhere. 6 months of MY salary would buy a good player.
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Kingston hates Visser too . Let’s see what’s happening next
Quote:I think there were rumours earlier this year that TV was deciding what training he felt he wanted/needed to attend, ditto other Club related events, and JK stopped selecting him to ensure he understood the 'team ethos'. Hate would appear to be a strong word to meblucherquinQuote:Months KYT
Kingston hates Visser too . Let’s see what’s happening next
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And Jones says Yarde has impressed in training, since being 'sorted out' by the Aussie coach.
"Marland is close to our quickest wing," said Jones. "Maybe Anthony Watson shades him, but he has got power and he is raw.
"He hasn't had a lot of experience, he hasn't had a lot of coaching, and he's very coachable.
"He is a bit of a character. He has probably blown a bit of his career by being too big for his boots. He's back down to earth now and has the potential to be a really special player for us.
"I got him into camp and had a look at him. He had a bit of an attitude on him, so I sorted that out. From there on in, he's been really wanting to get better."
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JK's positive comments might just be part of the agreement to terminate the contract.
Quote:Safri-quinQuote:I think there were rumours earlier this year that TV was deciding what training he felt he wanted/needed to attend, ditto other Club related events, and JK stopped selecting him to ensure he understood the 'team ethos'. Hate would appear to be a strong word to meblucherquinQuote:Months KYT
Kingston hates Visser too . Let’s see what’s happening next
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one thing we have learned from the past week is that JK is not an articulate wordsmith — very clumsy choices of words and phrases.
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Based on Tim’s tweets when I asked him why he wasn’t being selected a couple of months ago . Stated fully fit and didn’t know reason . Neither did I with
His % scoring rate
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/41820797
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one thing we have learned from the past week is that JK is not an articulate wordsmith — very clumsy choices of words and phrases.
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one thing we have learned from the past week is that JK is not an articulate wordsmith — very clumsy choices of words and phrases.
Really? Maybe in off the cuff stuff but every word on the press release would have been carefully chosen.
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one thing we have learned from the past week is that JK is not an articulate wordsmith — very clumsy choices of words and phrases.
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There's a full rehabilitation piece in the Times. Kingston emerges well from it, and notably Marlon does not argue with the decision the club took to release him, which probably tells you all you need to know. From my point of view, he's gone, and I wish him well at Sale and I hope he doesn't have the same problems there that he had at Quins
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I listened to the Rugby Pod, the podcast by Jim Hamilton and Andy Goode...and they had Joe Marler on the phone. He said he hadn't spoken to Marland for around the last 18 months as he lost his rag with him a long time ago. He said something along the lines of, 'you won't change someone like that so I just leave him be'.
Seems like the squad will be in a better place for it so I'm glad!
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Even if you allow for the fact that it is Marler, the piece from Robshaw backs up the fact that Yarde was disruptive within the team.
Not everyone gets on with everyone, and I'm sure we all work with people we'd rather not have to. But, we have to be professional and deal with it. If Yarde has been unable to do that, we're better off without him.
And let's hope he doesn't have any points to prove the next time we play Sale...!
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I listened to the Rugby Pod, the podcast by Jim Hamilton and Andy Goode...and they had Joe Marler on the phone. He said he hadn't spoken to Marland for around the last 18 months as he lost his rag with him a long time ago. He said something along the lines of, 'you won't change someone like that so I just leave him be'.
Seems like the squad will be in a better place for it so I'm glad!
That would be so telling if it was anyone in the squad other than Marler, who sometimes looks like he hasn't spoken to anyone else in the squad for the past 18 months.
Really not good though if that's the case. The team needs to communicate so having those sorts of divisions isn't good for the squad.
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Hi Wasps fan in peace.
I'm not sure there's anything Yarde could say to change people's perception of him once the 'official Quins line' had been put out last week. We know he's missed training, refused to play an A league game and apparently had been told his contract wasn't being renewed at end of season.
He's been pinned as a disruptive influence and it's hard to counter that if that message is being repeated by multiple sources (club/Ugo/The Times piece)
Also I would say that he's really 'hits back at Robshaw' with these comments
"d have expected different from him. No player enjoys that, especially from a team-mate I've shared a field with for the last four or five years.
It's happened. I'm not going to moan about it, it's his views and he's entitled to his opinions. I don't want to get into an argument about what's right and what's wrong."
Granted Robshaw was just responding to a (no doubt) leading journo's question, but he maybe could have swerved it somewhat. You'd have to wonder whether it will effect his chances of an England recall, especially if 4 Quins players are 'happy to see the back of him'. It would certainly make training camps a bit awkward.
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It would have been easy for Robbo to go for the 'no comment' option. But he didn't............
Quote:Marland Yarde: No 'bad blood' with Harlequins after Sale move
Quote:England winger Marland Yarde says there is no "bad blood" after his mid-season move from Harlequins to Sale Sharks. Yarde joined Sale on a three-year deal and was thought to be unsettled at their London-based Premiership rivals. "I thought there was a chance to have a new challenge, a clean slate and a fresh start," 25-year-old Yarde told BBC Radio Manchester. He could make his first Sale appearance against Saracens in the Anglo-Welsh Cup on Friday. Prior to leaving Harlequins, Yarde had been dropped from their Champions Cup game at Wasps for missing training and director of rugby John Kingston said letting him go was in the "best interest" of the club. "I've got no bad blood towards Harlequins. John Kingston and I never left on any wrongful terms, it was just a decision that had to be made at the time," Yarde added. "It was a culmination of a few things. Not everything has been said but it's a stance that John had to make at the time." Yarde started his professional career with London Irish in 2010 and spent four years with the Exiles before joining Quins in 2014, scoring 18 tries in 62 appearances for the west London side. "I'm a little disappointed with how it concluded because I think no player would like to leave on those terms, especially having played there for the last three or four years and being a part of that team through many highs and lows," he added. "I want to get on board as soon as possible - usually you'd have a whole pre-season to do it but it's a challenge to myself. "I am experienced enough and I have played enough games to know how to deal with stuff like that."
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It would have been easy for Robbo to go for the 'no comment' option. But he didn't............
And that would have been taken negatively, I think. A bit like the refusal to give a reference.
FWIW I think Robshaw was probably right to say what he said, assuming it's true. I did suggest elsewhere that "maybe" he was put up to speak on behalf of the team, as he would be the best person to do so, since very few would question his word or suggest that he had any kind of motive.
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It would have been easy for Robbo to go for the 'no comment' option. But he didn't............
And that would have been taken negatively, I think. A bit like the refusal to give a reference.
FWIW I think Robshaw was probably right to say what he said, assuming it's true. I did suggest elsewhere that "maybe" he was put up to speak on behalf of the team, as he would be the best person to do so, since very few would question his word or suggest that he had any kind of motive.
Can't see Robshaw allowing himself to be used like that, to be honest. Sounded more like a straight answer to a question asked to me.
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Of course the club, after only a third of the season, is going to have a lot of redundant advertising hoardings on the outside of the ground with Marland's mush plastered all over them. Could we superimpose a different player's face on them?
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Of course the club, after only a third of the season, is going to have a lot of redundant advertising hoardings on the outside of the ground with Marland's mush plastered all over them. Could we superimpose a different player's face on them?
Big Josh Ibuanokpe would seem like the obvious candidate...
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Of course the club, after only a third of the season, is going to have a lot of redundant advertising hoardings on the outside of the ground with Marland's mush plastered all over them. Could we superimpose a different player's face on them?
Big Josh Ibuanokpe would seem like the obvious candidate...
Would he? Why?
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Loved the players reactions after beating Sarries on Sunday proved there is team spirit and the will to win.