9,482 members
Around 7k turned out for yesterday's LV Game
Does this mean that the Club are now, finally, calculating attendance as "numbers through the turnstiles" as opposed to "season ticket holders + ticket sales"?
Around 7k turned out for yesterday's LV Game
Does this mean that the Club are now, finally, calculating attendance as "numbers through the turnstiles" as opposed to "season ticket holders + ticket sales"?
I'd like to think the churn has slowed due to the idea first proposed on here that ST Holders should be able to pay monthly as being confronted once a year by a bill of hundreds of pounds is always going to make you think long and hard.
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We can't really change the way we calculate numbers until other people do. It was comparison of crowds with London Irish that started this. They counted tickets sold, we counted bums on seats. We didn't look so good by comparison, so we changed to their method.
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We can't really change the way we calculate numbers until other people do. It was comparison of crowds with London Irish that started this. They counted tickets sold, we counted bums on seats. We didn't look so good by comparison, so we changed to their method.
Why are we particularly concerned about being compared to other clubs?
I'm sure the club have both sets of data (and let's face it they care more about tickets sold) so I'm not really sure why there needs to be any jiggery-pokery about it.
For yesterday's game, 7,300 looked about right.
Why were we concerned? (I don't think we really compare ourselves to London Irish these days). Well, I think things like a sponsor trying to choose between spending money with Harlequins or money with London Irish and concerned that his product got the best coverage possible might be swayed by the fact L Irish claimed an average crowd of 8,000 where Harlequins was 6,500!
Have to say I hadn't thought about it before but they must use both systems.
When they say a Prem game is a "sell out", there's often plenty of empty seats scattered around us, and we sit on the halfway line in the west stand - so that's season ticket holders not being able to make it to the game.
And yet -- on cup games when the crowd is clearly much smaller -- they announce the actual "attendance"......(presumably actually registering which membership cards are swiped in)
I can only assume they use whichever system makes more sense at the time -- you can't announce a sell out on a game when there's clearly a half-empty ground, but if they sell all the non-season ticket seats for a Prem game then it's a "sell out".....
When they say a Prem game is a "sell out", there's often plenty of empty seats scattered around us, and we sit on the halfway line in the west stand - so that's season ticket holders not being able to make it to the game.
And yet -- on cup games when the crowd is clearly much smaller -- they announce the actual "attendance"......(presumably actually registering which membership cards are swiped in)
I can only assume they use whichever system makes more sense at the time -- you can't announce a sell out on a game when there's clearly a half-empty ground, but if they sell all the non-season ticket seats for a Prem game then it's a "sell out".....
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Why were we concerned? (I don't think we really compare ourselves to London Irish these days). Well, I think things like a sponsor trying to choose between spending money with Harlequins or money with London Irish and concerned that his product got the best coverage possible might be swayed by the fact L Irish claimed an average crowd of 8,000 where Harlequins was 6,500!
I would hope that sponsors would due a bit more due diligence than simply relying on the numbers provided by a club, and I hope our marketing team would be more than competent enough to explain the actual figures (both massaged and not).
I personally think they could give us the bums on seats figure on match days, but then use the seats sold figure for more commercial purposes.
I assume they could - but the question they'll be asking is why bother? The journos want to know the crowd figure, and that's the "tickets sold" figure.
Don't different competitions have different rules for reporting the gate?
That's a pretty decent effort taking our performance over the last couple of seasons in to account. Imagine how many memberships they'd shift if we played like a top side every week!
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There's always been a disconnect between performance on the pitch and season tickets sold. Mark Evans got the numbers up year on year, despite our less than stellar performances. I even think they went up when we were relegated.
We can't afford to be a top 4 team, we'd need a bigger stadium!
We can't afford to be a top 4 team, we'd need a bigger stadium!
If any of our gang cant make it to a game, the "Sell Out" announcement prods you into re-selling the seat through the club. Wi/win as you get some money back and the club gets an actual paying bum on the seat into the ground.
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