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Auterac to join from Barf?
TeddingtonQuin (IP Logged)
14 November, 2017 12:12
According to Rugby Pass
[www.rugbypass.com]



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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
14 November, 2017 13:24
Fingers crossed we dont break him!



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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
14 November, 2017 13:43
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He will join Joe Marler, Kyle Sinckler and Will Collier at the Stoop and come under the tutelage of Graham Rowntree and Adam Jones, creating a front row unit at Quins with enviable depth and intellectual property.

Hooray for enviable intellectual property!

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Stooperman (IP Logged)
14 November, 2017 16:24
Obviously following the Cockerill school of team building...spend as much money as possible on props!

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
PQ2 (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 08:22
Quoting the article:

"Auterac had been pushing for England inclusion before a string of injuries hit....."


- Sounds perfect for us. (Sm19)

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 08:42
Straight on to the injury list, or not...

(Autocue - insert conspiracy theory here)

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Fursty (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 11:03
He's obviously 'accurate kin' for Quins.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 12:17
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He's obviously 'accurate kin' for Quins.

Nice!



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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 12:27
If he can remain fit, this would really give us some great options at prop. With those four (Marler, Sinckler, Collier and Auterac) together with the likes of Boyce, McNulty and Hollenstein coming through we'd be in a great position.

Just hope we give them a better selection of hookers to work with.

But personally I see this is a positive in looking at what we're trying to do next season.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 13:01
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talkshowhost86
If he can remain fit, this would really give us some great options at prop. With those four (Marler, Sinckler, Collier and Auterac) together with the likes of Boyce, McNulty and Hollenstein coming through we'd be in a great position.
Just hope we give them a better selection of hookers to work with.

But personally I see this is a positive in looking at what we're trying to do next season.

How quickly we forget Swainston.

Awful lot of punts being taken on props by Quins (insert same argument as when we announced Boyce)



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semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 13:02
Would it be fair to say that next year JK will be fair game for criticism as he will have had control of Players comings and goings for long enough to accept that it is his squad?

Top four minimum?



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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 13:35
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If he can remain fit, this would really give us some great options at prop. With those four (Marler, Sinckler, Collier and Auterac) together with the likes of Boyce, McNulty and Hollenstein coming through we'd be in a great position.
Just hope we give them a better selection of hookers to work with.

But personally I see this is a positive in looking at what we're trying to do next season.

How quickly we forget Swainston.

Awful lot of punts being taken on props by Quins (insert same argument as when we announced Boyce)

I think Auterac is a bit different to Boyce in that he’s played more at a decent level already.

As for Swainston he always looked like a relatively short term option but if he gets more time this season we can judge him a bit more.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
TeddingtonQuin (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 14:00
Don't forget Josh 'The Beast 2' Ibuanokpe who's made a couple of barnstorming cameos in the AW last couple of weeks



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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 14:24
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Don't forget Josh 'The Beast 2' Ibuanokpe who's made a couple of barnstorming cameos in the AW last couple of weeks

Yup he's looked excellent in those two games. Will presumably need to do lots of work in the scrum, but again adds more depth to our prop-options.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
TeddingtonQuin (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 19:35
He stabilised our scrum when he came on in the Salarycens game. They were pushing us around the place until our replacements came on. I think he's that solid that it's a difficult job to shift him once he's settled!



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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 20:56
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talkshowhost86
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talkshowhost86
If he can remain fit, this would really give us some great options at prop. With those four (Marler, Sinckler, Collier and Auterac) together with the likes of Boyce, McNulty and Hollenstein coming through we'd be in a great position.
Just hope we give them a better selection of hookers to work with.

But personally I see this is a positive in looking at what we're trying to do next season.

How quickly we forget Swainston.

Awful lot of punts being taken on props by Quins (insert same argument as when we announced Boyce)

I think Auterac is a bit different to Boyce in that he’s played more at a decent level already.

As for Swainston he always looked like a relatively short term option but if he gets more time this season we can judge him a bit more.

Auterac isn't quite the same, no, but he's also a gamble.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Mayor West (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 21:14
Assuming we have four options each at tight and loose head , we have Marler, Lambert, Boyce and Holenstein at loose . Collier, Sinkler, Swainston, McNulty and Ibuanopke at tight. Does this mean we are going for five a side now? Or have I got my tights and looses in a twist.
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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
15 November, 2017 22:00
There's also George Head at loosey, so if you're including Big Josh as an academy player it only seems fair to include not so big George.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Mayor West (IP Logged)
16 November, 2017 07:52
George was playing hooker against Saracens. Is that because we have none left and he can cover.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
16 November, 2017 11:30
Presume so. I think we had more players out of position than in position in that game.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
16 November, 2017 11:40
As I counted it we had:

3 Scrum hales starting (One at wing, one at FB, and Mulchrone having been in the matchday 23 two days earlier for the Prem game)
A Loosie playing Hooker
A Tightie playing in 2nd row
A Hooker playing backrow
6 guest players
an empty spot on the bench
And Bomb named as a FR replacement even though he was actually coaching the team! (You can actually hear him say on the video that's linked in a separate thread that he's got his boots & his kit is there if he needs to change into it).

Since then, we've lost those three scrum-halves as well!

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
PQ2 (IP Logged)
16 November, 2017 13:48
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Fearless Fred

3 Scrum halves starting
A Loosie playing Hooker
A Tightie playing in 2nd row
A Hooker playing backrow
6 guest players
an empty spot on the bench
And Bomb named as a FR replacement even though he was actually coaching the team!


....And a partridge in a pear treeeeeeeee !


[Sorry. I'll get me coat.]

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
16 November, 2017 14:36
Here's your coat song, PQ2

On the twelfth day of Christmas
My Quins team sent to me:
12 Injured players
11 Wingers leaving
10 Fans a weaping
9 Ladies OT-ing
8 Easters eating
7 Wallaces missing
6 Robshaws playing
5 Centres crashing
4 Calling line outs
3 Sin-binnings
2 Scrum halves
and JK in a Christmas Tree

(Sm107)

Edited for spelin...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 16/11/2017 20:14 by Bolly-Quin.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Roaming Quin (IP Logged)
16 November, 2017 14:49
Bolly-Quin think we should have this as a song for the last home game of the season, do you think they'd put words on the screen at HT for Christmas Kareoke. Lol

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Mayor West (IP Logged)
16 November, 2017 20:10
Bravo Bolly! Merrickristmas everybody.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
28 November, 2017 21:27
According to a post on the Bath board, Auterac is definitely happening. Also, more interestingly, there is a post saying Ben Tapui is also coming

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
ballsout (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 11:08
What's Lambert up to? Out of contract this year I believe

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Quin21 (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 11:09
Is this a position we really need to strengthen? With Marler certain to start and Lambert a solid deputy coupled with the emergence of Lewis Boyce who looks like a real talent do we need to sign Auterac who has an awful injury record. Would love to see a proven premiership quality lock signed before worrying about anymore props!

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Stooperman (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 11:25
Its odd, but about 2/3rds of JKs signings seem to have been props! I'm not sure I understand what is going on, especially when we seem to be relying on 3 academy graduates of average ability and Horwill as our only source of 2nd row power.*

* forgot Ben Glynn, who is actually starting to impress me, but more as a 6 than a 2nd row.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Cookie (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 11:33
Agree with Quin21 - not sure why we need another LH.

Tapui would be a decent replacement at 12 in so much as he'd be another not lost to internationals and we already have 4 centres of decent quality (Lang, Saili, Sloan, Marchant), meaning downgrading the money spent there (replacing Roberts) leaves more to be used on a hooker/lock (or more props!).

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Dark Pies (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 11:39
Lambert is presumably going to leave and/or retire aged 33 at end of season....hence the podcast he's been doing for the last 12mths as his pre-retirement media training perhaps?

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Boonie (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 12:32
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Its odd, but about 2/3rds of JKs signings seem to have been props! I'm not sure I understand what is going on, especially when we seem to be relying on 3 academy graduates of average ability and Horwill as our only source of 2nd row power.*
* forgot Ben Glynn, who is actually starting to impress me, but more as a 6 than a 2nd row.

It's the Quins rotation system. Other clubs rotate players within a position, we rotate them through other positions to see how they do. See also hookers playing flankers, second rows playing flankers, etc.



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Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Stooperman (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 13:19
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Its odd, but about 2/3rds of JKs signings seem to have been props! I'm not sure I understand what is going on, especially when we seem to be relying on 3 academy graduates of average ability and Horwill as our only source of 2nd row power.*
* forgot Ben Glynn, who is actually starting to impress me, but more as a 6 than a 2nd row.

It's the Quins rotation system. Other clubs rotate players within a position, we rotate them through other positions to see how they do. See also hookers playing flankers, second rows playing flankers, etc.

Ah...makes sense now! So Auterac is actually joining to alleviate the scrum half crisis & Kitto will be moved to 8. I knew there was method in the madness (Sm100)

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Quin21 (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 13:26
Point taken Dark Pies, if that's the case then I can understand the thought process, however we still have two lions props and decent backup on both side it could be argued prop is our strongest position! I actually think our front row should be dominating a little bit more when you also consider the supposedly excellent coaching they're receiving from Rowntree. In terms of Tapuai I'd like to see a ball playing 12 to compliment Smith and utilize our back three a little better, someone who I think perhaps goes under the radar is Ryan Mills at Worcester whether he'd be available I'm not sure!

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 15:21
Re Auterac joining, yes we have enough LHs now, but we are not talking about now, we are talking about next season. Lambert OOC so as it stands we are one down.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
Cookie (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 15:32
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Re Auterac joining, yes we have enough LHs now, but we are not talking about now, we are talking about next season. Lambert OOC so as it stands we are one down.

I think the point is do we need to spend this sort of money on a Loose Head. Lambert was a squad player, so if we've spent more money there it lessens what we have to spend on the more crucial areas.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 15:44
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Re Auterac joining, yes we have enough LHs now, but we are not talking about now, we are talking about next season. Lambert OOC so as it stands we are one down.

I think the point is do we need to spend this sort of money on a Loose Head. Lambert was a squad player, so if we've spent more money there it lessens what we have to spend on the more crucial areas.

Fair point. Only thing I can say to that is we do not know who else may be going. We seem to be being linked with quite a few players at the moment (all of whom I am quite happy about). I think we might see a few more out the door at the end of the season, clearing cap space.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
ACQuins (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 15:53
Re a ball playing 12 outside young Marcus, I'm hoping that's the long term plan for James Lang. I would love to see him given a chance to develop there and I think he's probably better there than he is at 10.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
thomh (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 16:18
Is the chair of the RPA required to be a current player? It would seem an odd time for Lambert to have stood for election if he's retiring, unless just for CV points.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 16:40
Never said he would retire, just that he is ooc. He could well move on elsewhere (that is if he does leave, after all this he will probably be announced tomorrow as having a new 5 year deal)

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
thomh (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 17:09
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Never said he would retire, just that he is ooc. He could well move on elsewhere (that is if he does leave, after all this he will probably be announced tomorrow as having a new 5 year deal)

You didn't, but Dark Pies suggested it.

 
Re: Auterac to join from Barf?
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
29 November, 2017 17:18
I think he has a bit more time left in him yet.


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