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Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Kent Fan (IP Logged)
04 December, 2017 12:10
I would like to see cards issued for the above even if a try is scored. Eg Ben Spencer should have gone for for 10 mins for his tackle / obstruction on Danny although Charlie scored.

This would make more impact in close games like yesterday.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
PickledPelican (IP Logged)
04 December, 2017 12:20
Some refs do, some don't..... are they just forgetful?

Tmo should act as refs "reminder service", a.yellow is a yellow!!

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Cookie (IP Logged)
04 December, 2017 14:38
Totally agree with this. For our first try they had been given a final warning and on the next play Charlie scored on a penalty advantage, so should have been yellow.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
ChipsteadQuin (IP Logged)
04 December, 2017 15:16
I agree about the yellow cards , but it seems like most officials deem that a try against is sufficient punishment.

I'm sure that a penalty restart from halfway used to be a more regular occurrence as well, but hardly see that sanction used now.

I thought that penalty restarts could be used for offences after the try was scored , or immediately prior providing the score was still made.

Its possible that the automatic 7 point Penalty Try has superceded that law of course.

Up to speed Ref needed plse .

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
RocQuin (IP Logged)
04 December, 2017 15:31
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ChipsteadQuin
I agree about the yellow cards , but it seems like most officials deem that a try against is sufficient punishment.
I'm sure that a penalty restart from halfway used to be a more regular occurrence as well, but hardly see that sanction used now.

I thought that penalty restarts could be used for offences after the try was scored , or immediately prior providing the score was still made.

Its possible that the automatic 7 point Penalty Try has superceded that law of course.

Up to speed Ref needed plse .
I was also of this opinion, however I cannot remember the last time I saw a penalty kick restart.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Cookie (IP Logged)
04 December, 2017 15:42
Collapsing a maul is more often than not a penalty try + yellow card e.g. Toby Flood. Not sure why it doesn't happen for other offences.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 11:53
The most heinous one is the knee drop on a defenceless prone player just after scoring. Equals gouging in my view.



Illegitimi non carborundum

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Adi Nako (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 12:17
Quote:
RocQuin
Quote:
ChipsteadQuin
I agree about the yellow cards , but it seems like most officials deem that a try against is sufficient punishment.
I'm sure that a penalty restart from halfway used to be a more regular occurrence as well, but hardly see that sanction used now.

I thought that penalty restarts could be used for offences after the try was scored , or immediately prior providing the score was still made.

Its possible that the automatic 7 point Penalty Try has superceded that law of course.

Up to speed Ref needed plse .
I was also of this opinion, however I cannot remember the last time I saw a penalty kick restart.

As is brought up fairly frequently on this board, a penalty restart can only be used for foul play that occurs after the ball has been made dead. Only after, the corresponding law is very clear on this.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Adi Nako (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 12:20
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Scaramouche
The most heinous one is the knee drop on a defenceless prone player just after scoring. Equals gouging in my view.

Technical offences leading up to tries don't bother me as much as some posters on this thread, but I hate how little is done about last ditch tackles and late hits in the act of scoring. Pundits dont help at all and seem all to willing to praise a try saving tackle even if it was clearly illegal at any other part of play.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 13:02
Quote:
Scaramouche
The most heinous one is the knee drop on a defenceless prone player just after scoring. Equals gouging in my view.

As done to Yarde in the LI game. By the full back who then went on to score a try, when realistically he shouldn't have been on the pitch.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
DOK (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 13:21
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Scaramouche
The most heinous one is the knee drop on a defenceless prone player just after scoring. Equals gouging in my view.

Agree 100%

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 13:51
Quote:
Scaramouche
The most heinous one is the knee drop on a defenceless prone player just after scoring. Equals gouging in my view.

It's bad, but nowhere near gouging.

 
Re: Foul play & penalties leading up to tries
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
05 December, 2017 16:25
? Broken spine or blind in one eye? Tough choices.



Illegitimi non carborundum


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