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Skelton's a bit of a donkey.
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Skelton's a bit of a donkey.
But, is he useless?
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Barnetsarries, the rugby paper, the metro, the daily mail and the telegraph all ran an article on the fact that he turned down Saracens to stay at Quins, in November 2016,
That's fair enough but that is solely down to the fact that Itoje and Kruis were with England a lot and Isiekwe was still in the academy and Jim Hamilton was really only our second row and we had to play Rhodes there. Like i said merrick is good, sarries wanting to sign him is more a sign of us struggling for second rows than him being special.
He would not be a starter at sarries and at the moment won't even make the bench. I still contend that he is not much better than Matthews to me if at all. I think theres negligible difference between the two of them
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Barnetsarries, the rugby paper, the metro, the daily mail and the telegraph all ran an article on the fact that he turned down Saracens to stay at Quins, in November 2016,
That's fair enough but that is solely down to the fact that Itoje and Kruis were with England a lot and Isiekwe was still in the academy and Jim Hamilton was really only our second row and we had to play Rhodes there. Like i said merrick is good, sarries wanting to sign him is more a sign of us struggling for second rows than him being special.
He would not be a starter at sarries and at the moment won't even make the bench. I still contend that he is not much better than Matthews to me if at all. I think theres negligible difference between the two of them
Tend to agree with this, other than Horwill there's not much to choose between all the Quins 2nd rows, all have differing strengths and weaknesses. Twoomy's the one that was coming out of the 'pack' but after 18 mths out with injury it'll be a while to see if he regains that position again.
It does seem odd to me to base any opinion on Merrick based on whether Sarries once wanted him rather than looking at his actual performances on the field.
Ultimately Barnetsarrie is right to say that Merrick (or Matthews or Glynn) wouldn't get in the Sarries 23 let alone the 15, and yet they play for us regularly.
That highlights the sort of gap we are looking at if our aim is to regularly compete with the top teams.
Ultimately Barnetsarrie is right to say that Merrick (or Matthews or Glynn) wouldn't get in the Sarries 23 let alone the 15, and yet they play for us regularly.
That highlights the sort of gap we are looking at if our aim is to regularly compete with the top teams.
Matthews' career has certainly stagnated at quins over the last year.. with both Merrick and Glynn above him in the pecking order and probably Twomey too when he eventually makes his return from injury. A very mid table sort of player and we should certainly be looking to get an improvement on him for before next season.
Wasps fan in peace. Interesting thread. A bit harsh though, I feel. Matthews always seems to give his all, even if not the most talented. Summons is a string player and I’ll be sorry to see him go, if he leaves. We’ve both suffered with injuries and loss of form this season.
We certainly hope you send out a herd of donkeys today, so we can try to grab a ride in the Cup! I have my ticket to the Ulster game next week, so hoping we can do a job today. But even though it’s a dead rubber for you, I know you’ll like to put one over us.
Safe travels to those going. And good luck for next week!!!
We certainly hope you send out a herd of donkeys today, so we can try to grab a ride in the Cup! I have my ticket to the Ulster game next week, so hoping we can do a job today. But even though it’s a dead rubber for you, I know you’ll like to put one over us.
Safe travels to those going. And good luck for next week!!!
Came on as a sub, played well,made a few breaks..... No Donkey!!
“Donkey” the assessment of an ass!
Quote:and caused a nusiance of himself at the line outs.... Carried better today I thought too.PickledPelican
Came on as a sub, played well,made a few breaks..... No Donkey!!
He isn't a useless donkey and it's very poor form to describe him as such.
We wouldn’t have won that game without him. The OP either knows nothing about rugby or he’s a donkey, happy for him to let us know which he is
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 14/01/2018 07:17 by blucherquin.
Cant agree with you there Quins do in fact have a very able back row that has been plagued by injury this season aside from Robsshaw and Clifford. We have Renaldo Bothma who captains his national team (Namibia so is international standard), he looks to me a very physical, heavyweight and mobile back row player. James Chisolm is really coming of age with MOM performances against Saints and Wasps today, he is certainly very close to getting into national squad. We also have Wallace and Luamanu too and even Archie White who looks a Robshaw-esque flanker developing.
I used to be a big fan of his but I don't think he's reached his full potential.. Far from a donkey, but probably a position that we could strengthen.
We all want him to do better but certainly not a bad player.
According to TRP a lot of clubs are pursuing him, but they think Wasps will be signing him
Yes, once again I winced with every ball he took into contact. Every time he held on like a limpet and did a good job! Well done Charlie!
Another very good game from Matthews, getting through a large amount of work and fighting tooth and nail to the last second. The useless donkey.
He was excellent again today, be a shame to lose him.
Did well today when he came on, but overall I dont think he's done enough to change minds. JK is working to strengthen weak areas in the squad & this on balance is one of them. Tough but the right call I think.
i am sure Quins could keep him if they/he wants to.
I've generally been critical of Matthews in the past, but I think he has been very good when he has played this season. He seems to have added the extra element of competitiveness/an aggressive edge to his game that he has always lacked and is now turning in consistently good performances.
He's not a test class lack but he's certainly not a donkey and I'd be perfectly happy if we keep him.
He's not a test class lack but he's certainly not a donkey and I'd be perfectly happy if we keep him.
I've generally been critical of Matthews in the past, but I think he has been very good when he has played this season. He seems to have added the extra element of competitiveness/an aggressive edge to his game that he has always lacked and is now turning in consistently good performances.
He's not a test class lack but he's certainly not a donkey and I'd be perfectly happy if we keep him.
He's not a test class lack but he's certainly not a donkey and I'd be perfectly happy if we keep him.
A good squad player now.
And the “useless donkey” makes The Times’ “team of the week” today....
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