So here’s where things currently stand: Harlequins 36 points, Northampton 32 and Worcester 27. These are the remaining fixtures.

Northampton v Saracens
Harlequins v Irish
Worcester v Newcastle

Gloucester v Harlequins
Worcester v Wasps
Leicester v Northampton

Worcester v Harlequins
Wasps v Northampton

Harlequins v Exeter
Northampton v Worcester

Every club needs targets — JK said so at the beginning of the year — so perhaps his latest target should be to avoid finishing in 11th place?

That should be enough to satisfy Mr Ellis and get the coaches contracts extended, especially as they can all now go off to New Zealand for a nice long ‘business trip’ as a reward, or ‘continuing professional development’.

Let’s hope for next season that Bristol haven’t learned their lessons from their last return to the Premiership.

I think with Northampton playing Worcester on the last day, and the fact that Northampton's fixtures are pretty tricky other than that, means that we'll be okay for 9th.

But the fact that we're even discussing this is testament to how depressing this season has been.

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So here’s where things currently stand: Harlequins 36 points, Northampton 32 and Worcester 27. These are the remaining fixtures.
Northampton v Saracens
Harlequins v Irish
Worcester v Newcastle

Gloucester v Harlequins
Worcester v Wasps
Leicester v Northampton

Worcester v Harlequins
Wasps v Northampton

Harlequins v Exeter
Northampton v Worcester

Every club needs targets — JK said so at the beginning of the year — so perhaps his latest target should be to avoid finishing in 11th place?

That should be enough to satisfy Mr Ellis and get the coaches contracts extended, especially as they can all now go off to New Zealand for a nice long ‘business trip’ as a reward, or ‘continuing professional development’.

Let’s hope for next season that Bristol haven’t learned their lessons from their last return to the Premiership.

My expert prognosis:-

Quins;- Two games might be alright. Two games might not be alright.
Saints:- One game might be alright. Three games might not be alright.
Worcester:- Four games might not be alright.

Northampton v Saracens Away win
Harlequins v Irish Home win
Worcester v Newcastle Away win

Gloucester v Harlequins Hmm?
Worcester v Wasps Away win
Leicester v Northampton Home win

Worcester v Harlequins Away win
Wasps v Northampton Home win

Harlequins v Exeter Hmm?
Northampton v Worcester Home win

In terms of this season, does it really matter if we finish 9/10/11th, its been a poor season either way.

Next season is now a major worry

Think we'll probably win 2, lose 2 and maintain our position, but I don't really care. 9th or 10th is rubbish either way. 11th really would be dire but I don't see that happening.

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Next season is now a major worry

How any more or less of a worry than this one? Summer could be pivotal. We've got a good squad and good signings - something else is going wrong.

In 17 years we've only finished lower than this once - and we got relegated.

So I have some hope that it'll reach breaking point.

This summer same coaching voices as the past few years......why will there be a change.

I can only see one win out of those 4. Would be happy to be proved wrong, but with our away form, I can't see us winning either of those.

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This summer same coaching voices as the past few years......why will there be a change.

Won't there be some input from North of the Tasman Sea?

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Next season is now a major worry

Yes - I foresee astroblemic annihilation.

And the bezan shall be huge and black, and the eyes thereof red with the blood of living creatures, and the @#$%& of Babylon shall ride forth on a three-headed serpent, and throughout the lands, there'll be a great rubbing of parts. Yeah. For the demon shall bear a nine-bladed sword. Nine-bladed! Not two or five or seven, but nine, which he will wield on all wretched sinners, sinners just like you, sir, there, and the horns shall be on the head, with which he will...

I worry, too...

And there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base....

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And there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base....

Nice.

I mean you’ve lost anyone under 45 but nice.

I'm outraged! And so's my wife!

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And there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base....

Nice.

I mean you’ve lost anyone under 45 but nice.

I knew you'd be with me Bluch, but well done Fred as well. A victory for silliness. Now, I'm off for a walk....



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Smiley asterisk? Is this some form of IT Blackadder?

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I think it is a pig’s head lying on its side with a tongue wrapped around its nose...

Ah a bedwetting Eenglish then.

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I’ll take it that the Stella had just kick in then.

I wish! I was still at work

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Looks as if 11th is now a distinct possibility.

Well done the executive who extended their contracts — just makes it way more expensive to get rid of them, which for a 'money man' almost certainly means he won't do it!

Someone who knows the 'price of everything, but the value of nothing' ring a bell?

It may not cost to sack him/the coaches. It is possible that certain clauses were contained in the contracts (penalties for low finishes/early cup exits etc).

9th, 10th, 11th. I don't care. It's failure whichever of those numbers we pick.

Just thought I'd put this back to the top of the message list — with smug kind of look on my face... ("told you so").

Looks like finishing 11th is the only target we'll hit all season!

why does it matter if we are 11/10 or 9?? its all crap. makes no odds now

Looks like I was optimistic to think we'd finish 9th.

We're now relying on Northampton to secure our strong 10th position finish.

Very sad.

Well, if we'd kept fighting, I think 9th very achievable. I mean at the end of the first half of the season, we were still on course for a 4th place finish. A few games on and it looked like a 6th place finish but then the wheels came off.

Now this team (or part of this team) has just given up. Suspect some of them are ensuring they don't leave hurt/injured and others are not interested in playing given the club situation. Thank God for London Irish (sorry Irish!).

If we put in more effort I’m sure we will secure 11th!

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Well, if we'd kept fighting, I think 9th very achievable. I mean at the end of the first half of the season, we were still on course for a 4th place finish. A few games on and it looked like a 6th place finish but then the wheels came off.
Now this team (or part of this team) has just given up. Suspect some of them are ensuring they don't leave hurt/injured and others are not interested in playing given the club situation. Thank God for London Irish (sorry Irish!).

‘Kept fighting’? I don’t the were fighting in the first place.

Watching Saints yesterday was such a contrast to the rubbish we’ve been serving up. Like us, they have nothing other than pride to play for, but they were pushing for a draw away from home against a play-off side until the last play of the game.

Compare that to our abject capitulation in each of our last three games - two of which have been against teams in 11th and 12th!

It’s an absolute disgrace. The players need to take a long, hard look in the mirror.

Yeah exactly - Saints fought well. We look like a group of individuals who don’t like each other very much.

I think our players are so vain that if they looked in a mirror they would see Mr Perfect

What a load of shoe repairers. One or two players may be not trying 100% but the whole squad? Really?

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I think if you reversed that and said 1 or 2 are trying you'd be nearer the mark