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Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Southwest Quin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:28
So pleased I have tickets for Gloucester away, great investment smiling smiley at least the Gloucester fans are graceful in victory :/ looking forward to a pasting.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Banstead Quin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:29
Irish now have a 4th try going for review. Struggling to try and explain this. DC in the bin as well.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:28
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No. They�ve got nothing to play for this season. Only remedy for that at this stage of the season would be effective leadership, we don�t have that on or off the field.

I was thinking the same. A team fighting for their survival against a team with nothing to play for.

One of the more bizarre excuses you've come up with this season.

I suppose the injury argument wasn't available to you though.

This has been pathetic so far today and it is symptomatic of poor leadership from the coaches. Trying to deflect away from that obvious conclusion really is ignoring what's happening at the club.

If you bothered reading my posts you'd see I've been critical of the team today. But in your desperate urge to score pathetic points, I guess that's too much to hope for. Maybe one day you'll actually grow up.

I read your posts.

They were laced with excuses for why we're awful.

Which is laughable really.

Laced with excuses? I guess reading never was your strong point. You've shown that time and again.

We aren't getting anything at the breakdown.

They have more to play for than us.

We aren't that great on days ending in Y.

I can read fine QK.
Individual errors was an early one.

Jeez, when Kevin agrees with you, you must be in the wrong. Or are you saying that there weren't individual errors?

I suppose at least your post is legible for a change.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:28
The players do have something to play for - their management team, their continued selection, their fans, and pride.

This is what we're getting.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
akb1 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:29
Absolutely awful.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:29
32-5

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:30
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The players do have something to play for - their management team, their continued selection, their fans, and pride.
This is what we're getting.

You'd hope so, but it doesn't look that way.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:30
Professional pride for a start.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
T-Bone (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:33
Laughable tmo decision. Contributing to the general farce

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
QuinAlan (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:33
Looks like its now 32-5. Comeback finished. Not good.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:33
Dread to see how we would play if we never trained well

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Southwest Quin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:35
Looking forward to the "positives" from JK at full time.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:34
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Laughable tmo decision. Contributing to the general farce

Careful... You'll upset Talkshow.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
blucherquin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:34
Shameful bunch of overpaid lazy failures who dont deserve our support

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:35
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The players do have something to play for - their management team, their continued selection, their fans, and pride.
This is what we're getting.

You'd hope so, but it doesn't look that way.

That's my point.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:35
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Looking forward to the "positives" from JK at full time.

I'd say the only player that has put a decent shift in is Robshaw.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
QuinAlan (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:36
Worcester now leading Falcons by 20-13. Saints totally hammered by Sarries yet again 63-13.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:37
35-5

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:40
I genuinely can't understand why anyone could think JK should stay after this.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:39
Matthews yellow now. can have a chat to care

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:40
No pressure at Worcester then...

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:42
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I genuinely can't understand why anyone could think JK should stay after this.

I genuinely can't understand why anyone would care what you think.

Easter and Mapletoft must be culpable.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
QuinAlan (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:42
Worcester now 27-13 up.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Rocker (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:44
This is just appalling! 23 games since Irish won away in the premiership. They've won only twice this year to today. We're in deep trouble next year.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:44
The whole coaching team are

Players also need to take a look at themselves. All this nothing to play for rubbish. They have professional pride, they have the honour of playing for Quins (Seriously). They are doing a disservice to the club and its support

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:44
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I genuinely can't think.

Fixed it for you.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:45
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I genuinely can't understand why anyone could think JK should stay after this.

I genuinely can't understand why anyone would care what you think.

Easter and Mapletoft must be culpable.

Weren't you accusing me of not accepting other posters opinions about 10 posts ago?

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:45
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I genuinely can't understand why anyone could think JK should stay after this.

I genuinely can't understand why anyone would care what you think.

Easter and Mapletoft must be culpable.

Weren't you accusing me of not accepting other posters opinions about 10 posts ago?

I'm stating mine.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:47
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I genuinely can't think.

Fixed it for you.

Wow. Oscar Wilde lives.

Remember that post the next time you get on your high horse about personal abuse.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:47
Give it a rest Chaps, we are trying to slate the Team/Club/Coaches.

Cant you just send nasty PMs to each other??

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
blucherquin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:48
Right - im done. Kingston out.

Screw this.

Team appalling:

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:49
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Give it a rest Chaps, we are trying to slate the Team/Club/Coaches.
Cant you just send nasty PMs to each other??

Haven't said anything nasty personally.

I agree with you.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
quinsfan123 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:49
Did Saili go off injured?

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
QuinAlan (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:49
Yeah well said HT. Getting peed off with the chilren. Take it to the nursery please!

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Hortiquin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:49
I was annoyed to be missing the match, now im glad its not on TV either.
Cant wait for the 'highlights'

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:50
Its more the fact another thread has turned into a long drawn out bickerfest with very long quoted messages. By the time I get to the end I have forgotten what I wanted to moan about

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
QuinAlan (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:51
Cant be anyone left supporting Kingston or Ellis now surely..????

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:51
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Give it a rest Chaps, we are trying to slate the Team/Club/Coaches.
Cant you just send nasty PMs to each other??

Agreed. That is TalkShow's style after all.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
07 April, 2018 16:52
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I was annoyed to be missing the match, now im glad its not on TV either.
Cant wait for the 'highlights'

You'll see a few tries, if nothing else.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:52
I think that puts us bottom of the form table in 2018

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:53
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Give it a rest Chaps, we are trying to slate the Team/Club/Coaches.
Cant you just send nasty PMs (Papyrus Message) to each other??

The only people we hate more than the Romans are...

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
talkshowhost86 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:55
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Give it a rest Chaps, we are trying to slate the Team/Club/Coaches.
Cant you just send nasty PMs to each other??

Agreed. That is TalkShow's style after all.

Relatively hypocritical based on the homophobic stuff and the mocking of mental illness that you sent to me.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
MrOther (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:54
Utter garbage.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:56
I've tried uttering garbage, but it doesn't seem to be strong enough.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 16:56
Utterly inexcusable. Sackings must follow - after being dismal in Europe, supine in the league, and a bit rubbish in the Anglo-Welsh, the onus was on the team to give the fans something to cheer about after coming to support them despite having almost nothing to cheer about, and instead the fans are rewarded with the most appalling display of the season.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Rocker (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:03
That was possibly the worst rugby is seen from a Quins team in 14 seasons as a season ticket holder. Frankly indefensible. The only plus side is that there was a bit of sunshine and the beer wasn't terrible.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:05
My analysyis, for TalkShow to disagree with:

Joe Marler - looked demotivated. Seemed to think the game was a fun runout.
Dave Ward - ineffective. No leadership, nothing positive to say about his game.
Kyle Sinckler - some good runs in the loose but otherwise anonymous.
Charlie Matthews - seemed to be trying hard, but not getting too far. Not good at hitting rucks/mauls.
Stan South - looked out of his depth.
Mat Luamanu - moments where he made an impact; sadly, only moments.
Chris Robshaw - worked hard as always, but can't do it all on his own.
Jack Clifford - seemed off the pace at times. WHole back row just didn't seem to gel.
Danny Care - poor. Looked disinterested.
Marcus Smith - quiet, none of the dazzling moments that open up defences.
Tim Visser - bad day at the office. Uncharacteristic mistakes. Seems to be a lack of communication with our back line.
Francis Saili - tried to spark things but seems like not much went right.
Joe Marchant - great footwork at times but too often the backplay seems unstructured with everyone hoping the offloads will work or a tackle will be missed.
Charlie Walker - off the pace, poor positioning, poor defence, looks frustrated.
Mike Brown - the worst game I've seen him play. Ever. Poor decisions, poor skills, and for once didn't seem fired up.

Our defence was appalling. Some players are going for the rush, others are standing off. We missed too many tackles. Defensive alignment was poor, much of the time. Attack-wise we couldn't beat the Irish defensive system; too little support at the breakdown, and too many players not getting stuck in. We had a driving maul that was going very well, but Irish just stopped it.

We also need a captain that can play the ref. He wasn't great, but that's not the reason we lost. We lost because we were appalling and Irish, whilst not great, were simply much better.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:05
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Give it a rest Chaps, we are trying to slate the Team/Club/Coaches.
Cant you just send nasty PMs to each other??

Agreed. That is TalkShow's style after all.

Relatively hypocritical based on the homophobic stuff and the mocking of mental illness that you sent to me.

You do make me laugh.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Hellequin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:10
Beaten twice the lowest ranked team in the league. Bottom half of the league and crowds leaving early because of the poor performances for multiple matches.
I've been coming to the Stoop since 2011 and this is the worst season I have seen.
Not just results but the atmosphere and the style of play have been the worst I have seen.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Rocker (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:13
That performance has cost them at least 3, probably 6 season tickets. My group have all been a bit dubious about renewing. Today just tipped the balance of my group of 6 I think I'm the only one that is even thinking about renewing now. I heard quite a few around me saying the same.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
ironquin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:13
I chose this game for my first visit to the Stoop as I thought it would be an easy win with all the internationals back. What a disappointment. I won't be going again until JK is no longer in charge. Shocking.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
ArchQuin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:31
Absolute disgrace - no effort or heart - I would like JK replaced but todays disgrace is down to the players

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
akb1 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:33
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I chose this game for my first visit to the Stoop as I thought it would be an easy win with all the internationals back. What a disappointment. I won't be going again until JK is no longer in charge. Shocking.
Oh come on! as dissspointing as it is, don't let it control the reason for you deciding to attend a game.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Meadway Meanderer (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:37
Will renew but won't the majority of the team be starting next year? Bar second row most look as being starters. I definitely thought that about our back line. On that performance it makes me worried for the season ahead. No energy shown and if someone could explain what our game plan was I'd be grateful.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:45
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Absolute disgrace - no effort or heart - I would like JK replaced but todays disgrace is down to the players

The players were shocking today.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
blucherquin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:48
Players were abysmal

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:49
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I chose this game for my first visit to the Stoop as I thought it would be an easy win with all the internationals back. What a disappointment. I won't be going again until JK is no longer in charge. Shocking.
Oh come on! as dissspointing as it is, don't let it control the reason for you deciding to attend a game.

Why not? I didn't enjoy last season and haven't been back since. Nothing I've seen this season has made me doubt that choice for a second.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
akb1 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:50
At least it didn't rain.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Hellequin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:50
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Absolute disgrace - no effort or heart - I would like JK replaced but todays disgrace is down to the players

The players were shocking today.

If none of the players in the team performed to their potential does that not suggest that there is an issue with the coaching?

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Rocker (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:51
Something has to change surely?

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
kevin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:52
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At least it didn't rain.
...on the London Irish parade

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
akb1 (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:52
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I chose this game for my first visit to the Stoop as I thought it would be an easy win with all the internationals back. What a disappointment. I won't be going again until JK is no longer in charge. Shocking.
Oh come on! as dissspointing as it is, don't let it control the reason for you deciding to attend a game.

Why not? I didn't enjoy last season and haven't been back since. Nothing I've seen this season has made me doubt that choice for a second.
As Ironquin was a 1st time visitor it would be a shame for today's rubbish performance to control any decision to come back.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Hellequin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:55
Starting to regret renewing my season ticket early if I wanted to watch the team I support play upper Championship level rugby I could watch Ealing with a quarter of the travel time.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
RleQuin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:56
I think Saili has his arm in a sling after coming off at HT
RleQ

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:57
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Starting to regret renewing my season ticket early if I wanted to watch the team I support play upper Championship level rugby I could watch Ealing with a quarter of the travel time.

Got a bit of a pasting today at Doncaster

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
RleQuin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 17:58
That must be in the top 5 worst performances in the professional era. Although thinking about it there have been some shockers so itll definitely make the top 20!
RleQ

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Quinky Kin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:03
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Absolute disgrace - no effort or heart - I would like JK replaced but todays disgrace is down to the players

The players were shocking today.

If none of the players in the team performed to their potential does that not suggest that there is an issue with the coaching?

Dropping the ball, backchat, poor passing, not hitting rucks - these are things that National League 3 players do. That stuff shouldn't need coaching, not to internationals and a Lion. Coaches also shouldn't have to teach attitude and effort.

I did say elsewhere that Minty and Tofty are culpable. But the coach isn't responsible for the general malaise of the players in my opinion - professional sportsmen should take responsibility for that.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:08
I agree QK but I think much of that also stems from the "culture" at the club, which is down to the DOR. The working environment is an important factor

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
kevin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:12
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I chose this game for my first visit to the Stoop as I thought it would be an easy win with all the internationals back. What a disappointment. I won't be going again until JK is no longer in charge. Shocking.
Oh come on! as dissspointing as it is, don't let it control the reason for you deciding to attend a game.

Why not? I didn't enjoy last season and haven't been back since. Nothing I've seen this season has made me doubt that choice for a second.
As Ironquin was a 1st time visitor it would be a shame for today's rubbish performance to control any decision to come back.

But what about the other rubbish performances in the build up to culminating in this one.Better off putting money into a company of alchemists!!

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
QuinAlan (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:14
If the DOR isnt responsible for the players malaise, then who the hell is..?? Come on. The DOR is responsible for everything, the coaching, game plan, tactics, motivation, he oversees the coaching set up & S&C, development of young players, etc. He sets the goals, fires up the team, player signings, makes sure everything is right. NONE of this is working for the current DOR at Quins.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Bucksquin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:17
Jamie Roberts said in the Deb Lounge that there needed to be a "change of culture" ...but diplomatically didn't elaborate and the interviewer (as he always does) shielded the player from having to answer any difficult questions by overtly changing the subject.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
kevin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:17
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Absolute disgrace - no effort or heart - I would like JK replaced but todays disgrace is down to the players

The players were shocking today.

If none of the players in the team performed to their potential does that not suggest that there is an issue with the coaching?

Dropping the ball, backchat, poor passing, not hitting rucks - these are things that National League 3 players do. That stuff shouldn't need coaching, not to internationals and a Lion. Coaches also shouldn't have to teach attitude and effort.

I did say elsewhere that Minty and Tofty are culpable. But the coach isn't responsible for the general malaise of the players in my opinion - professional sportsmen should take responsibility for that.

Do the League 3 practice dropping the ball, giving backchat and poor passing etc? Strange way to approach the game!

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
WoTQuin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:18
I really think the players were sending a message today.....they want change in the DoR/Coaching set up. They are clearly not playing for this management.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
Scrumhead (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:22
I’m not renewing. Today was the deciding factor.

I don’t want rugby to descend in to football behaviour, but I can’t see Kingston solving anything. I wish he had the cojones to fall on his on sword.

 
Re: Quins v London Irish - Match Thread
kevin (IP Logged)
07 April, 2018 18:22
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I really think the players were sending a message today.....they want change in the DoR/Coaching set up. They are clearly not playing for this management.

If so that is unforgivable! The supporters are there to have their devotion repaid , in team effort at the very least, whatever the players feelings about the management.

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