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... I think the end is v near
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About 10 minutes from the end, after he was subbed, Marler strode up the steps of the West Stand looking like thunder and had about a minute's agitated conversation with the lady on the gate who was keeping the plebs out of the VIP area. Couldn't hear the conversation, but he was not a happy bunny. Was he looking for Ellis to tell him "enough is enough"? Clearly he wasn't after Kingston, because he knew that he was in the viewing gallery, and he could have gone up the stepladder to get to him if he'd wanted.
NB I didn't see Kingston come down at the end. Easter did, but he left via the internal route in the stand, clearly to avoid encountering the supporters. Maybe Kingston is still up there?
Quote:Pete Sake
LI fan in peace here.
Didn't get to the game - would have but with 50,000 Bath/Tigers supporters also trying to park in the residents areas I decided not to.
But is there just the slightest chance that you were out played and out thought, and lost to the better team on the day?
Maybe, just maybe, LI's new management team had you worked out?
Quote:Pete Sake
LI fan in peace here.
Didn't get to the game - would have but with 50,000 Bath/Tigers supporters also trying to park in the residents areas I decided not to.
But is there just the slightest chance that you were out played and out thought, and lost to the better team on the day?
Maybe, just maybe, LI's new management team had you worked out?
Quote:Pete Sake
LI fan in peace here.
Didn't get to the game - would have but with 50,000 Bath/Tigers supporters also trying to park in the residents areas I decided not to.
But is there just the slightest chance that you were out played and out thought, and lost to the better team on the day?
Maybe, just maybe, LI's new management team had you worked out?
Quote:Pete Sake
LI fan in peace here.
Didn't get to the game - would have but with 50,000 Bath/Tigers supporters also trying to park in the residents areas I decided not to.
But is there just the slightest chance that you were out played and out thought, and lost to the better team on the day?
Maybe, just maybe, LI's new management team had you worked out?
Quote:QuickerQuinQuote:Pete Sake
LI fan in peace here.
Didn't get to the game - would have but with 50,000 Bath/Tigers supporters also trying to park in the residents areas I decided not to.
But is there just the slightest chance that you were out played and out thought, and lost to the better team on the day?
Maybe, just maybe, LI's new management team had you worked out?
There were two teams on the pitch. One played a lot better than the other. One team wanted it, one didn't.
Hurts me to say it, but all credit to LI.
Anyone reminded of the Six Nations - England v Ireland game by any chance?
Quote:Closer & Closer
Maybe Joe is looking to show other teams that he wants to leave?
Quote:HonkyTonk
Thing that I do not understand though, why are players still re signing if they are unhappy???
Quote:DOK
Fits my theory that Ellis had done/said something just before the game to upset the team.
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No wonder Ellis has skipped off the Quinssa event tomorrow, even the players want a piece of him!
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Quote:HonkyTonk
Does anyone know when our "big name" players are ooc (off the top of their head)??
I'm thinking Marler, Robshaw etc
Quote:OldMarovian
Serious question. Which top 4 or 6 sides would want Brown, Care, Marler?
I don't mean it as a criticism of the players just that they'd be Marquee money players likely not available during Internationals. Given their ages (not sure about Marler) they might be of interest after the RWC when they're no longer Internationals.
For clubs outside the top 6 would those players want to go there?
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Serious question. Which top 4 or 6 sides would want Brown, Care, Marler?
I don't mean it as a criticism of the players just that they'd be Marquee money players likely not available during Internationals. Given their ages (not sure about Marler) they might be of interest after the RWC when they're no longer Internationals.
For clubs outside the top 6 would those players want to go there?
Marler is still young enough but of the top 5/6 clubs, I can only see Wasps potentially and Newcastle as potential destinations, the others in the top 4 already have top looseheads.
I agree about the others, their age profile and the fact that they actually go away with England does not mke them very desirable signings
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Serious question. Which top 4 or 6 sides would want Brown, Care, Marler?
I don't mean it as a criticism of the players just that they'd be Marquee money players likely not available during Internationals. Given their ages (not sure about Marler) they might be of interest after the RWC when they're no longer Internationals.
For clubs outside the top 6 would those players want to go there?
Marler is still young enough but of the top 5/6 clubs, I can only see Wasps potentially and Newcastle as potential destinations, the others in the top 4 already have top looseheads.
I agree about the others, their age profile and the fact that they actually go away with England does not mke them very desirable signings
Is the answer to sign players who just good enough to play at international level but can't displace the incumbents in their position. Bit like Exeter perhaps?
I agree. On a broader point I can barely see the benefit to any club of signing England internationals anymore.
Quote:never sleep
I think that if Joe was going to leave, it would need to be an easy commute from his home. I can't see him moving home. That would make LI the only real alternative (and maybe Sarries). As he was a Quins supporter before he was a player, I somehow can't see him moving to Sarries. I actually think that if he were to leave Quins, one option that he may consider would be retiring.
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Why are you being so apologetic? They are all professionals and we are paying to watch hem. The least we can’t expect is effort.
The coaching team and the players all need to take a serious look in the mirror. If most of us turned up to our jobs and performed as poorly, we’d all be flirting with the sack.
It’s not disloyal to want answers to valid questions.
Quote:HonkyTonk
Apart from Marler I agree. He is still a top player but I think the current situation at the club is possibly affecting performance
Quote:Stooperman
Eddie Jones will have to take some radical decisions after this 6 nations. Much as I love Mike Brown, he has lost pace and is not the force he used to be. I think he and Danny may well be the fall guys for that 6 nations performance.
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To be fair there isn't a single quote or fact in that article, so talk of 'mutiny' is based on very little.
That said, it's not wrong about our problems.