Quote:T-Bone
Bizarre. Bit odd to say that staying on until the end of the season won't negatively affect the squad, when we got the LI performance after the squad were told he was leaving.
Wonder if that's why MArler was so angry?
Quote:Jammy Git
Can you expand on what your complaint is exactly?
Quote:Fearless FredQuote:T-Bone
Bizarre. Bit odd to say that staying on until the end of the season won't negatively affect the squad, when we got the LI performance after the squad were told he was leaving.
Wonder if that's why MArler was so angry?
If you check the piece, you'll see that the squad were informed on Monday, two days AFTER the game.
Quote:CookieQuote:Jammy Git
Can you expand on what your complaint is exactly?
The debacle of last Saturday could have been avoided. We could have had 2 more weeks for a DoR to come in and look at/work with the players in live play before the end of the season. Etc etc.
Basically, the toxicity that ran throughout the club (players thought not to be trying 100%, Marler looking for Ellis, the walkout, fans demonstrating on social media, incredulous media saying club hits new low etc) could have been avoided.
How could Ellis and JK think it was credible for him to coach the team vs Irish when they knew he was off and the players didn’t?
Quote:blucherquinQuote:CookieQuote:Jammy Git
Can you expand on what your complaint is exactly?
The debacle of last Saturday could have been avoided. We could have had 2 more weeks for a DoR to come in and look at/work with the players in live play before the end of the season. Etc etc.
Basically, the toxicity that ran throughout the club (players thought not to be trying 100%, Marler looking for Ellis, the walkout, fans demonstrating on social media, incredulous media saying club hits new low etc) could have been avoided.
How could Ellis and JK think it was credible for him to coach the team vs Irish when they knew he was off and the players didn’t?
Look, it’s a line in a Kingston interview where he’s been allowed the dignity of making it about his decision to go and that it wasn’t just because of the Irish result.
We’ll never know what happened, so getting irate over one totally unverifiable story over another seems a bit of a waste.
You might as well say how can he coach the next three games.
No one would appoint a new DoR to run three pointless games where the team are likely to get beaten - hardly the start you want.
I think we can allow JK as a great longstanding servant of the club to have his leaving story and for us to thank him and move on.
I really don’t get what you think would have happened differently.
Quote:CookieQuote:Jammy Git
Can you expand on what your complaint is exactly?
The debacle of last Saturday could have been avoided. We could have had 2 more weeks for a DoR to come in and look at/work with the players in live play before the end of the season. Etc etc.
Quote:CookieQuote:blucherquinQuote:CookieQuote:Jammy Git
Can you expand on what your complaint is exactly?
The debacle of last Saturday could have been avoided. We could have had 2 more weeks for a DoR to come in and look at/work with the players in live play before the end of the season. Etc etc.
Basically, the toxicity that ran throughout the club (players thought not to be trying 100%, Marler looking for Ellis, the walkout, fans demonstrating on social media, incredulous media saying club hits new low etc) could have been avoided.
How could Ellis and JK think it was credible for him to coach the team vs Irish when they knew he was off and the players didn’t?
Look, it’s a line in a Kingston interview where he’s been allowed the dignity of making it about his decision to go and that it wasn’t just because of the Irish result.
We’ll never know what happened, so getting irate over one totally unverifiable story over another seems a bit of a waste.
You might as well say how can he coach the next three games.
No one would appoint a new DoR to run three pointless games where the team are likely to get beaten - hardly the start you want.
I think we can allow JK as a great longstanding servant of the club to have his leaving story and for us to thank him and move on.
I really don’t get what you think would have happened differently.
Not sure what ‘unverifiable’ stories you’re comparing, but this one quotes JK directly, so therefore is verified.
As I said, I’m not blaming JK. Quite the opposite. And I’ve already said what I thought could have been avoided, not least he could have kept a little more of his self esteem by not having to go through what happened last Saturday.
Quote:Quinky Kin
It could just as easily been that the club sacked JK, and Marler was infuriated at that. Maybe the players en masse thought JK should stay. But he's going so we'll have to wait for memoirs and interviews to learn more.
Quote:DOK
Anyone lay their hands on Marler's criticism of JK? Is the bloke confused with Joe's criticism of the appointment of some of the coaches?
Quote:Grunge Quin
JK should not be at the club even now.
Once you know your time is up, you need to walk away, to allow for a new way of thinking to seep in. Even if we had someone come in for the last handful games of the season as a "caretaker" the fans deserve something new. If JKs fate was known as reported before the LI game, then my point is already proven. What did the players have to prove? what did JK need to do? not very much.
Quote:CookieQuote:Jammy Git
Can you expand on what your complaint is exactly?
The debacle of last Saturday could have been avoided. We could have had 2 more weeks for a DoR to come in and look at/work with the players in live play before the end of the season. Etc etc.
Quote:Basically, the toxicity that ran throughout the club (players thought not to be trying 100%, Marler looking for Ellis, the walkout, fans demonstrating on social media, incredulous media saying club hits new low etc) could have been avoided.
Quote:How could Ellis and JK think it was credible for him to coach the team vs Irish when they knew he was off and the players didn’t?