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U20 World Cup
Stoopendous (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 10:08
So far as I can work out, this tournament kicks off tonight at 1830 and the opening English game (against Argentina) is live streamed on World Rugby [www.worldrugby.org].

There may be other Quins players involved but I think that Marcus Smith and Gabriel Ibbitoye are both on the bench.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Cookie (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 10:21
How is this not on BT or Sky???

Edit: just remembered ITV had it last time and do this time. But semi finals and final only. Sheesh!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 30/05/2018 10:23 by Cookie.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 11:01
It'll be streamed live this afternoon on the World Rugby Facebook page.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Cookie (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 12:32
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It'll be streamed live this afternoon on the World Rugby Facebook page.

Yes, but not a good look for World Rugby that thereís no TV coverage in England when there has been previously and Irelandís games will be on TV.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Cookie (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 13:29
And Walesí games are on S4C.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
akb1 (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 16:17
Highlights on ITV4 at midnight. not the best time but...

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 16:23
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It'll be streamed live this afternoon on the World Rugby Facebook page.

Yes, but not a good look for World Rugby that thereís no TV coverage in England when there has been previously and Irelandís games will be on TV.

It depends on whether anyone bid for it this time for UK rights. With the roundball WC on this year, it's possible that ITV and BBC decided that this was one event they could drop to save money to go twards the hours & hours of interminable soccer coverage of the pool stages before England go out on penalties in the Quarter Finals.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Bedfordshire Boy (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 17:53
England 14 Argentina 15 32 minutes gone.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Bedfordshire Boy (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 17:57
5 more points for England, 37 mintes

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 18:22
Currently Eng 29:15 Arg with 10 mins gone in the second half



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Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 18:39
Now 32:18 after a couple of penalties, and Smith is on at the 63 minute mark

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 18:47
10 mins to go, still 32:18

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 18:57
Smith with the 5th try with less than a minute to go. Off a great break from Olowafeya.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 18:59
Final score 39:18

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 19:07
Jolly good!

So what goes wrong, then? In the last 10 years the U20s have been in 8 finals and won 3 times.



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Re: U20 World Cup
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 19:17
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So what goes wrong, then? In the last 10 years the U20s have been in 8 finals and won 3 times.

New Zealand going right.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
30 May, 2018 19:40
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New Zealand going right.

Well, yes, but ...

Aren't we similar with football or am I confused. Could be both.



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Re: U20 World Cup
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
31 May, 2018 11:16
Our recent record in age group football is superb, iirc.

We have no divine right to win these tournaments. The kiwis usually have the best team. We are sometimes in the final despite not having anything like the talent of a couple of other sides.

As long as they keep doing well and we keep getting a good mix of quality club players and some good internationals out of them, then it's job done.



O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: U20 World Cup
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
31 May, 2018 12:01
Barring a blip it is usually between us and NZ.10 tournaments -

NZ 6 wins 1 RU
England 3 Wins 5 RU

The football age groups have done very well recently. St Georges park, the FA training base received a lot of praise for the change in set up.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Yareet (IP Logged)
31 May, 2018 13:07
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It'll be streamed live this afternoon on the World Rugby Facebook page.

Yes, but not a good look for World Rugby that thereís no TV coverage in England when there has been previously and Irelandís games will be on TV.

It depends on whether anyone bid for it this time for UK rights. With the roundball WC on this year, it's possible that ITV and BBC decided that this was one event they could drop to save money to go twards the hours & hours of interminable soccer coverage of the pool stages before England go out on penalties in the Quarter Finals.


I thought ITV already had all the World Rugby comps (RWC, U20s and Women's WC) until 2020

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
02 June, 2018 10:45
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It'll be streamed live this afternoon on the World Rugby Facebook page.

Yes, but not a good look for World Rugby that thereís no TV coverage in England when there has been previously and Irelandís games will be on TV.

It depends on whether anyone bid for it this time for UK rights. With the roundball WC on this year, it's possible that ITV and BBC decided that this was one event they could drop to save money to go twards the hours & hours of interminable soccer coverage of the pool stages before England go out on penalties in the Quarter Finals.


I thought ITV already had all the World Rugby comps (RWC, U20s and Women's WC) until 2020

They have the Senior competitions, but I'm not sure if they had the rights for this U20s comp as well.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
02 June, 2018 11:23
Smith and Ibitoye starting this time

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Freddiequin (IP Logged)
02 June, 2018 12:26
Should be a good game against the Italians who are a big side and played well in their match the other night. We do have a lot of depth in our squad and some experienced Premiership players, Smith, Curry et al

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Bedfordshire Boy (IP Logged)
02 June, 2018 13:16
Next match tomorrow afternoon at 3.30 pm.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Yareet (IP Logged)
03 June, 2018 06:50
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Fearless Fred
It'll be streamed live this afternoon on the World Rugby Facebook page.

Yes, but not a good look for World Rugby that thereís no TV coverage in England when there has been previously and Irelandís games will be on TV.

It depends on whether anyone bid for it this time for UK rights. With the roundball WC on this year, it's possible that ITV and BBC decided that this was one event they could drop to save money to go twards the hours & hours of interminable soccer coverage of the pool stages before England go out on penalties in the Quarter Finals.


I thought ITV already had all the World Rugby comps (RWC, U20s and Women's WC) until 2020

They have the Senior competitions, but I'm not sure if they had the rights for this U20s comp as well.

This is the last u20s they currently have it seems

[www.itv.com]

 
Re: U20 World Cup
poorfour (IP Logged)
03 June, 2018 17:44
The streaming on World Rugby TV is pretty good. England beat Italy comfortably and Marcus had an excellent 60 minutes. Ibitoye not so much, and one of the locks picked up a red at the end for a shoulder charge.

It struck me watching it that because it is in South Africa, there's the possibility that the senior team could call up players from the U20s in case of injuries.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Bedfordshire Boy (IP Logged)
03 June, 2018 18:19
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The streaming on World Rugby TV is pretty good. England beat Italy comfortably and Marcus had an excellent 60 minutes. Ibitoye not so much, and one of the locks picked up a red at the end for a shoulder charge.
It struck me watching it that because it is in South Africa, there's the possibility that the senior team could call up players from the U20s in case of injuries.

It is in France as far as I am aware.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
poorfour (IP Logged)
03 June, 2018 19:34
You're right. Don't know why I thought it was in SA.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
fandg2 (IP Logged)
04 June, 2018 11:25
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You're right. Don't know why I thought it was in SA.

Still similar time zone though so not unthinkable ;-)

 
Re: U20 World Cup
GP2110 (IP Logged)
04 June, 2018 11:38
I just watched the highlights of the Italy game - looks like Smith had a blinder.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
HonkyTonk (IP Logged)
04 June, 2018 11:51
Best player on the pitch.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
04 June, 2018 12:07
Shame that Gabs had the reverse Midas touch going on.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
09 June, 2018 14:52
Smith and Gabs top try scorers for England...

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Stoquin (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 13:55
SF against SA on ITV4 tonight live at 6:00, Just thought I would share

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 17:57
Smith and Ibitoye to start.



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Re: U20 World Cup
Brown Bottle (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 17:59
England U20s

15. Tom Parton (London Irish)

14. Gabriel Ibitoye (Harlequins)

13. Fraser Dingwall (Northampton Saints)

12. Tom Hardwick (Leicester Tigers)

11. Jordan Olowofela (Leicester Tigers)

10. Marcus Smith (Harlequins)

9. Ben White (Leicester Tigers)

1. Alex Seville (Gloucester Rugby)

2. Henry Walker (Gloucester Rugby)

3. Joe Heyes (Leicester Tigers)

4. Joel Kpoku (Saracens)

5. James Scott (Worcester Warriors)

6. Ted Hill (Worcester Warriors)

7. Ben Curry - captain (Sale Sharks)

8. Josh Basham (London Irish)

Replacements

16. Gabriel Oghre (Wasps)

17. Ciaran Knight (Gloucester Rugby)

18. Ehren Painter (Northampton Saints)

19. Tom Willis (Wasps Rugby)

20. Aaron Hinkley (Gloucester Rugby)

21. Rory Brand (London Irish)

22. James Grayson (Northampton Saints)

23. Will Butler (Worcester Warriors)



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Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 18:52
Uh-oh. Looks like the U20s have been learning from the senior side. Leading 19-0, now only leading by 6 (25-29) after 54 minutes...

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 19:18
Now down to a single point lead, with England down to 14 for the last 4 minutes! Eeep!

 
Re: U20 World Cup
quin_jon (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 19:33
32-31, never in doubt

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 19:42
Got to admit, I'm chanting "Allez Les Bleus!" now!

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 20:06
Great result. Hoping I can watch on catch up

 
Re: U20 World Cup
harlequinade (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 20:12
Great performance by Marcos and a wonderful game to boot!



You can have anything in life, if you will sacrifice everything else for it

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Fearless Fred (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 21:13
Wow. It's taken NZ 69 minutes to actually get *any* points on the board! C'mon France!

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 21:28
France win. England v France final on Sunday in Beziers.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Monte (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 21:34
Great reffing by Karl Dickson

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
12 June, 2018 22:38
Boom

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 09:51
Also well done to Karl for what sounds like a very good performance. Amusing to read Kiwis whining on twitter about him missing French transgressions at the breakdown. He apparently also did well to handle a situation where a team doctor / physio, was more concerned about shouting at him then treating his own player

 
Re: U20 World Cup
poorfour (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 10:06
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Also well done to Karl for what sounds like a very good performance. Amusing to read Kiwis whining on twitter about him missing French transgressions at the breakdown. He apparently also did well to handle a situation where a team doctor / physio, was more concerned about shouting at him then treating his own player

It was a very good reffing performance, I thought. Didn't miss too much on either side and handled the doctor issue with a level of aplomb that Nigel Owens would have been proud of. From memory: "Your job here is to provide medical assistance to your players, not talk to me, and if you can't do that I will have to tell your team to send on different medical personnel."


I think Kiwi sour grapes are a bit unjustified. Their team weren't good enough and while no doubt stuff was missed on both sides what I saw was pretty even handed. You'd think they'd have the good grace to shut up after effectively ending Saturday two yellows and a red to the good and with no citings (how the hell did that happen?).

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 10:13
Kiwis whining like babies when they lose?

Whatever next - refs being blind to their offsides and foul play?

 
Re: U20 World Cup
DOK (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 12:13
The power of that French scrum brought a tear to the eye! Every time they packed down in the second half, it seemed like another scrum penalty resulted. Would have been a travesty if they lost! Let's hope they shot their bolt like the French RWC team of 1999 when they beat NZ in the semi-final!

 
Re: U20 World Cup
never sleep (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 12:42
France were really good last night. If they play like that on Sunday, then I think they will be the deserved winners (unless we really play well of course).
But, they kept NZ out of their 22 until about 70 minutes of the game.
Their prop #3 looked a handful. Also Ntamack was good.
I think that the final in Beziers will be a hell of a game. It is a big stadium and the locals can be boisterous.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
samlee99 (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 12:44
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Kiwis whining like babies when they lose?
Whatever next - refs being blind to their offsides and foul play?

Very similar to Quins whining like babies when they lose.

If you judge everyone by a few nutcases on Twitter.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 13:02
6pm Sunday ITV 4 for Le Baby Crunch!



If at first you don't succeed, Try, Try and Try again.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
John Tee (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 13:18
Thought we looked lethal in attack but once the Boks got going, we looked in trouble. Wasn't that knocked out by the ref with regards to players off their feet but all in all, the boys did really well to take their chances and hold on at the end.
That was a fearsome pack rolling at them in the second half...

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 13:31
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Kiwis whining like babies when they lose?
Whatever next - refs being blind to their offsides and foul play?

Very similar to Quins whining like babies when they lose.

If you judge everyone by a few nutcases on Twitter.

If Quins fans whined when we lost it would sound like a jet engine round the Stoop.

So donít make stuff up.

The ABs meanwhile get away with murder because World Rugby is terrified of upsetting the cash cow. And NZ fans are notorious for being bad losers the world over (as well as being very quiet during matches despite having the best team).

Letís just accept the objective facts in this era of uncertainty.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Quinten Poulsen (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 17:51
I think Kiwis tend to be quite gracious losers but not necessarily great winners.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 19:25
Iím only teasing - but they do bang on about referee decisions for years after most have forgotten.

And I definitely saw McCaw onside once.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
samlee99 (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 19:37
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Kiwis whining like babies when they lose?
Whatever next - refs being blind to their offsides and foul play?

Very similar to Quins whining like babies when they lose.

If you judge everyone by a few nutcases on Twitter.

If Quins fans whined when we lost it would sound like a jet engine round the Stoop.

So donít make stuff up.

The ABs meanwhile get away with murder because World Rugby is terrified of upsetting the cash cow. And NZ fans are notorious for being bad losers the world over (as well as being very quiet during matches despite having the best team).

Objective facts = your prejudicies.

Still facts aren't your strong point as we can see from other threads.

Letís just accept the objective facts in this era of uncertainty.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
13 June, 2018 19:47
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Kiwis whining like babies when they lose?
Whatever next - refs being blind to their offsides and foul play?

Very similar to Quins whining like babies when they lose.

If you judge everyone by a few nutcases on Twitter.

If Quins fans whined when we lost it would sound like a jet engine round the Stoop.

So donít make stuff up.

The ABs meanwhile get away with murder because World Rugby is terrified of upsetting the cash cow. And NZ fans are notorious for being bad losers the world over (as well as being very quiet during matches despite having the best team).

Objective facts = your prejudicies.

Still facts aren't your strong point as we can see from other threads.

Letís just accept the objective facts in this era of uncertainty.

Good job dear - you probably didnít read the rest of the thread where I said I was being deliberately provocative.

Like world rugby ignoring AB red card offences.....

And as per other thread - what fact have I ignored? Please list them here and everyone can see how wrong I am.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 13/06/2018 19:48 by blucherquin.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
samlee99 (IP Logged)
14 June, 2018 11:51
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blucherquin
Kiwis whining like babies when they lose?
Whatever next - refs being blind to their offsides and foul play?

Very similar to Quins whining like babies when they lose.

If you judge everyone by a few nutcases on Twitter.

If Quins fans whined when we lost it would sound like a jet engine round the Stoop.

So donít make stuff up.

The ABs meanwhile get away with murder because World Rugby is terrified of upsetting the cash cow. And NZ fans are notorious for being bad losers the world over (as well as being very quiet during matches despite having the best team).

Deliberately provocative = posting utter rubbish.

But how can we tell the difference from your normal posts "dear"?

Objective facts = your prejudicies.

Still facts aren't your strong point as we can see from other threads.

Letís just accept the objective facts in this era of uncertainty.

Good job dear - you probably didnít read the rest of the thread where I said I was being deliberately provocative.

Like world rugby ignoring AB red card offences.....

And as per other thread - what fact have I ignored? Please list them here and everyone can see how wrong I am.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
14 June, 2018 11:58
Iíll take that as an apology. Finalís on Sunday, should be a cracker.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
Scaramouche (IP Logged)
14 June, 2018 17:43
What'd he say?



If at first you don't succeed, Try, Try and Try again.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
raedarius (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 17:59
Well, this referee isn't very consistent.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
John Tee (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 18:02
Nope. . And he bottled the dangerous tackle in the air.
A homer decision if ever there was one..Imo.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 18:20
Not sure why the commentary is praising strong refereeing for bottling the yellow card decision for a tackle in the air

 
Re: U20 World Cup
raedarius (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 18:12
It would have been better if Kpoku had hit the French player rather than Ibitoye to prevent the French try.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 18:16
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Nope. . And he bottled the dangerous tackle in the air.
A homer decision if ever there was one..Imo.

Well the quest to understand referring decisions is something of an odyssey



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 17/06/2018 18:17 by blucherquin.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
John Tee (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 18:30
Crowd is a bit unpleasant..... Hopefully that will be music to a few of our players ears...
Enough possession but the French are making theirs count.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 18:49
England having loads of possession but like their senior counterparts, discipline is a problem. Smith has missed two kicks too, one very difficult but the other more straight forward. Ugo needs to get rid of his beard

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 19:08
Ibitoye is not having a great game. Our 9 is too slow at getting vthe ball away

 
Re: U20 World Cup
John Tee (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 19:03
I think we have the better game all round but that pack is the difference.
Their backs haven't done much...Although the defence is good enough to keep us quiet.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 19:37
France with a comfortable win. Loads of possession but bullied up front and poor discipline

 
Re: U20 World Cup
blucherquin (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 19:19
Gave away far too many penalties.

Smith missed touch and missed penalties and wasnít much use - taken off after 65 mins.

 
Re: U20 World Cup
T-Bone (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 19:42
Thought Smith was pretty decent, but the missed penalty to touch was poor

This replacement 9 is much better

Ibitoye more involved second half and poor first

Oh well, good effort to get to final and some scoreboard respectability at the end

 
Re: U20 World Cup
thomh (IP Logged)
17 June, 2018 19:31
Smith played well with the ball in hand but his kicking wasnít great in decision making or execution terms. We tried to run it in from everywhere on the pitch rather than pinning France back at all.

Ben Curry and the No. 4 are excellent.

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