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News from Down Under - A Bird's Eye View
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19 June, 2016 21:10
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Re: News from Down Under - A Bird's Eye View
Flinstone Saint (IP Logged)
19 June, 2016 21:15
This is Julia's first article for COYS. How wonderful that it should be in a fabulous setting and such an historic win for England.

Many thanks, Julia. Very well written piece, from the heart. Safe travels.



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Howlin (IP Logged)
19 June, 2016 22:13
Nice one Julia, glad you having a great time. here's to another win next week.



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Re: News from Down Under - A Bird's Eye View
CraiginWootton (IP Logged)
19 June, 2016 22:21
A good read, thanks and enjoy the rest of your trip

 
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SaintMaul (IP Logged)
19 June, 2016 22:30
A big thank you Julia.

Apart from watching the game on YouTube, I've read a whole bunch of reports and analysis of the game and IMHO your piece is by far and away the most interesting.

To be there for England's first ever series win is a memory to cherish for life.

Enjoy the rest of your trip.

 
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St Francis (IP Logged)
19 June, 2016 22:33
A good read! I'm grateful for the background, and also ever so slightly jealous.... smiling smiley

 
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ClaireJ (IP Logged)
19 June, 2016 23:49
The photos from Julia's trip are fabulous - the writing in this article likewise:-)

Thanks Julia - I too am very envious.

 
tboullem
Re: News from Down Under - A Bird's Eye View
Mobbs (IP Logged)
20 June, 2016 04:46
I have not been to Australia for nearly forty years but clearly they do not change.........good read, hopefully you can catch up with some of the Saints players next weekend !

 
Slimjimmie
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SlimJimmie (IP Logged)
20 June, 2016 08:14
Great to hear of your experiences Julia. Like our friends from up the road, you never beat the Aussies.....

Hope you continue to enjoy the trip and bring home a bucket of whitewash.

Snogger sends regards.

 
tedge2
Re: News from Down Under - A Bird's Eye View
tedge2 (IP Logged)
20 June, 2016 08:44
Good read Julia. Having family in Oz and having been there many times over the years and watched a variety of sporting contests between us and them I can certainly confirm your assertion about Aussies' reactions to losing. I was there when England won the rugby world cup and when our cricket team won the ashes there; not only was there minimal reporting of the events but people expressly refused to discuss them - losing at any sport to anybody, but especially to the Poms, is considered a national disgrace and by golly do their own get some stick when it happens.

Despite all that I do love them and their country and perhaps the reason they've been so successful in sport is down to that bad loser attitude - perhaps we're a bit too nice when it happens to us !

 
harryw
Re: News from Down Under - A Bird's Eye View
harryw (IP Logged)
20 June, 2016 08:46
Just a view from a local and lifetime Saints fan from Perth in that Rugby is a minority sport in OZ and it will never be featured in the local press , so if you are looking for a comprehensive balanced report and discussion you will never find it.

The Sunday Times in Perth is a local paper and 16 pages in should be regarded as a good position for a rugby report and as it is for local consumption it would focus on Australians who did well, sadly on the night they were Eddie Jones and Mark Ella(Sm131)

In the second test England were magnificent in defence and despite overwhelming possession Australia couldn't break through coughed up possession and England scored.

Due to the nature the pitch Joubert decided to let the scrums collapse and get just the ball out so no clear winners there and no repeat of Owen Farrell's masterclass in place kicking from game 1.

My only refereeing question from that game would be is the Neck Roll no longer viewed as a serious offence , didn't Callum get yellow carded for one last year, just a question though it didn't effect the result

It has long been my view that for the number of registered players and the amount of money the RFU puts into the system that England supporters have been short changed by the past performances of the national team and now hopefully with a re-organised coaching set up things will continue to improve.

My player of the series so far is , with my Saints hat on , our captain Dylan Hartley what an inspirational leader he is and an excellent player to boot.

I am hoping to to see a whitewash averted and if we can achieve a level of parity in the scrums and move the ball quickly it may happen but if it doesn't it won't be the end of the world.

regards

Harry

 
tedge2
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tedge2 (IP Logged)
20 June, 2016 09:48
Good read Julia and I totally agree with your view of Aussies post-defeat attitude especially if it's against the Poms. Having family there I've been fortunate enough to visit many times over the years, including being there when England won the RWC and retained the Ashes. Not only were newspaper reports notably absent but no Aussie was willing to discuss the events - even to the extent of pretending they hadn't happened !

I had to laugh when Michael Lynagh said after the Melbourne game that "Aussies are normally good losers" - I think he meant that eventually there would be some grudging respect by the players but the Aussie players won't get that from their own fans - they will crucify them !

Despite all that I do love them and their country and perhaps their refusal to acknowledge defeat is why they've done so well at sport over the years - maybe we're too nice when we lose ?

 
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Bob Stainsby (IP Logged)
20 June, 2016 10:25
Really interesting read Julia and I too am envious. Your article will prove invaluable to counter a mate of mine who always says Aussies are good losers but terrible winners your report prove me right Ta! Enjoy your trip.

 
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Re: News from Down Under - A Bird's Eye View
Paul Flatt (IP Logged)
20 June, 2016 14:17
It's good to see HarryW is still around the parish.

Jules, I'm just jealous but so glad you're enjoying things. I owe you a phone call sometime eventually.

I've been looking at 'Rugby Heaven'which is syndicated around all the Fairfax Media titles in Oz. (Its a dirty job but someone etc etc) and I've also seen the infamous Fox Sports trailer

Sometimes, we just don't realise how lucky we are. The next time that Mr Murdoch bleats about about unfair competition from the BBC, while trying to up your Sky subs to closer to 1200 a year just be careful what you wish for... and sometimes I can't make my mind up - is Barnes truly awful a commentator, or just awful and employed by the Dirty Digger?



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