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So we have Tuala, Pisi, Kellaway big T and Cobus can't all play at the same time?
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It's not just you.
So we have Tuala, Pisi, Kellaway big T and Cobus can't all play at the same time?
Just read the link above, and i think I've got my head round it. If they're an established international it doesn't fall into the rule. So out of those players only Kellaway would be classed as 1 of the 2.
Please correct me if I'm wrong though.
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It's not just you.
So we have Tuala, Pisi, Kellaway big T and Cobus can't all play at the same time?
Just read the link above, and i think I've got my head round it. If they're an established international it doesn't fall into the rule. So out of those players only Kellaway would be classed as 1 of the 2.
Please correct me if I'm wrong though.
I think you are; Tuala, Pisi, as Islanders and Reinach, as South African, are not classed as "foreign" under the "Kopak" ruling. I think Naiyaravoro might also be classed as an "Islander" (by birth and possibly passport) despite having played for Australia. Ratuniyarawa is an Islander, as is Tuitavake and Brussow is South African as is Van Wyk. Ribbans is either South African or has a UK passport so he doesn't count as foreign either.
Kellaway, as an out and out Aussie is a "foreign" player. Franks might be but has been in the UK a long time so might be non-foreign due to residence (not sure where that comes in though !). Rob Horne was a "foreigner".
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It's not just you.
So we have Tuala, Pisi, Kellaway big T and Cobus can't all play at the same time?
Just read the link above, and i think I've got my head round it. If they're an established international it doesn't fall into the rule. So out of those players only Kellaway would be classed as 1 of the 2.
Please correct me if I'm wrong though.
I think you are; Tuala, Pisi, as Islanders and Reinach, as South African, are not classed as "foreign" under the "Kopak" ruling. I think Naiyaravoro might also be classed as an "Islander" (by birth and possibly passport) despite having played for Australia. Ratuniyarawa is an Islander, as is Tuitavake and Brussow is South African as is Van Wyk. Ribbans is either South African or has a UK passport so he doesn't count as foreign either.
Kellaway, as an out and out Aussie is a "foreign" player. Franks might be but has been in the UK a long time so might be non-foreign due to residence (not sure where that comes in though !). Rob Horne was a "foreigner".
I’m not sure this is quite right either Tedge.. being South African (or other qualifying nation) doesn’t automatically mean you fall into the Kolpak ruling. Certainly in cricket the player has to declare his unavailability from international duties to qualify. So Reinach would not be classed as Kolpak given he is still on fringes of SA squad. This is of course assuming ECB and RFU rulings are the same
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I've noted the use of term Journeyman (men) recently but have been unsure what meaning it was intended to convey? My understanding was that it meant a skilled worker competent to work in their chosen field following a suitable apprenticeship. Sounds to me like a good former Academy player in the rugby context. however it seems to me that what some folks believe is that there are a large (vast?) number of ordinary quality 'foreign' players in the Premiership of who subvert the opportunities of the true journeymen. I simply don't think that the latter is in fact true.