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Teams Up: Leicester v Saints
Discussion started by Marching On (IP Logged), 21 March, 2019 12:34
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21 March, 2019 12:34
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ElySaint
ElySaint
21 March, 2019 12:03
For Tigers clash our Saints are:

1 Van Wyk
2 Fish
3 Hill
4 API
5 Moon
6 Gibson
7 Brussow
8 Harrison (c)
9 Reinach
10 Biggar
11 Naiyaravoro
12 Francis
13 Hutchinson
14 Collins
15 Tuala

Bench - Marshall, Waller, Franks, Craig, Wood, Mitchell, Kellaway, Furbank

Not available for selection:
Andy Symons (knee), Harry Mallinder (knee), Mikey Haywood (knee), Dylan Hartley (knee), Ehren Painter (calf), Courtney Lawes (calf), Paddy Ryan (knee), James Haskell (toe), Fraser Dingwall (ankle), Luther Burrell (concussion) and David Ribbans (ankle)



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 21/03/2019 12:05 by ElySaint.

Saint Stokey
Saint Stokey
21 March, 2019 12:05
Good looking side considering injuries and the need for rotation!

A chance for Kellaway to force himself back in the side!

Awaywin
Awaywin
21 March, 2019 12:05
Against a Tigers' Team of:

15 Jordan Olowofela
14 Sam Aspland-Robinson
13 Manu Tuilagi
12 Kyle Eastmond
11 Jonny May
10 George Ford
9 Sam Harrison
1 Ellis Genge
2 Tom Youngs (c)
3 Dan Cole
4 Will Spencer
5 Graham Kitchener
6 Mike Williams
7 Brendon O’Connor
8 Guy Thompson

Replacements

16 Jake Kerr
17 Facundo Gigena
18 Joe Heyes
19 Harry Wells
20 Mike Fitzgerald
21 Ben White
22 Matt Toomua
23 Gareth Owen

HungryLikeTheWolf
Wilson Pickett
21 March, 2019 12:14
I’m more bullish after seeing the sides....


Big T against slim and rangy young winger Aspland-Robinson could bear orchards of fruit (in attack!)

I think it’s smart to give the more experienced Ace a start at 15. I probably would have started Woody to help with the gain line attrition but Heinrich really owes us a big game. Very fast line speed required to hit their big guys early.


COYS, we can do this

saintsby2018
saintsby2018
21 March, 2019 12:21
Been extra nervous about his fixture since we qualified for the Cup final and turnaround time compounded by injury list. However i reckon that is a pretty good team considering nice to see Kellaway back in the mix and pleased Dan the man is available too. So COYS!



2018 The fightback begins COYS!

andysaint
andysaint
21 March, 2019 12:58
Good looking saints side with a strong bench. Both sides really could do with a win, Tigers for their poor league table position Saints for the hard run in and Bristol loss. I am still pessimistic about this game considering our poor league away form and would settle for a point. Tigers may well be out for any win they can possibly get so am not expecting any try bonus points for either side and for things to be kept tight.

ElySaint
ElySaint
21 March, 2019 13:17
I'm not overly optimistic about this one - for many of the reasons Andysaint talks about. We've been poor away from home all season. Both sides look reasonably strong and I expect Tigers to lift their game as I hope we do. One thing that strikes me is another 8 changes to our team - great rotation or unsettled team? We'll see, looking forward to what I hope is a good game without Barnes ruining it.

HungryLikeTheWolf
Wilson Pickett
21 March, 2019 13:21
Quote:
ElySaint
I'm not overly optimistic about this one - for many of the reasons Andysaint talks about. We've been poor away from home all season. Both sides look reasonably strong and I expect Tigers to lift their game as I hope we do. One thing that strikes me is another 8 changes to our team - great rotation or unsettled team? We'll see, looking forward to what I hope is a good game without Barnes ruining it.


You're not overly optimistic? Well I never....


Barnes best ref in England by a country mile so I wouldn't worry about that

ElySaint
ElySaint
21 March, 2019 14:07
[quote Wilson Pickett][quote ElySaint]I'm not overly optimistic about this one - for many of the reasons Andysaint talks about. We've been poor away from home all season. Both sides look reasonably strong and I expect Tigers to lift their game as I hope we do. One thing that strikes me is another 8 changes to our team - great rotation or unsettled team? We'll see, looking forward to what I hope is a good game without Barnes ruining it.[/quote]


You're not overly optimistic? Well I never.../quote]

I don't really need to answer that. I mean, you're just repeating what I said anyway. I don't see your point in that - unless you're trying to belittle my opinion?

HungryLikeTheWolf
Wilson Pickett
21 March, 2019 14:21
You’re grumpy and permanently glass half empty!


travel hopefully man

tedge
tedge
21 March, 2019 14:23
[quote ElySaint][quote Wilson Pickett][quote ElySaint]I'm not overly optimistic about this one - for many of the reasons Andysaint talks about. We've been poor away from home all season. Both sides look reasonably strong and I expect Tigers to lift their game as I hope we do. One thing that strikes me is another 8 changes to our team - great rotation or unsettled team? We'll see, looking forward to what I hope is a good game without Barnes ruining it.[/quote]


You're not overly optimistic? Well I never.../quote]

I don't really need to answer that. I mean, you're just repeating what I said anyway. I don't see your point in that - unless you're trying to belittle my opinion?[/quote]

ElySaint how could you possibly think that ?

tedge
tedge
21 March, 2019 14:28
Boydy's Team Selection Explanation

Talks a lot of sense as usual

twsaint
twsaint
21 March, 2019 14:36
Surely , ES, it's obvious that there has to be substantial rotation with a 5 day turnaround. Boydy always said this would happen and the final and this game were treated as a bloke.

After a super cup win , confidence is up. Clearly we go into a game at Welford Road as underdogs but we have every reason for some optimism.

HungryLikeTheWolf
Wilson Pickett
21 March, 2019 14:37
[quote tedge][quote ElySaint][quote Wilson Pickett][quote ElySaint]I'm not overly optimistic about this one - for many of the reasons Andysaint talks about. We've been poor away from home all season. Both sides look reasonably strong and I expect Tigers to lift their game as I hope we do. One thing that strikes me is another 8 changes to our team - great rotation or unsettled team? We'll see, looking forward to what I hope is a good game without Barnes ruining it.[/quote]


You're not overly optimistic? Well I never.../quote]

I don't really need to answer that. I mean, you're just repeating what I said anyway. I don't see your point in that - unless you're trying to belittle my opinion?[/quote]

ElySaint how could you possibly think that ?[/quote]



Tedge: “However full your glass might be it looks an exceptionally difficult task to get many points from these games”

you’re as bad as each other, I swear you actually want us to lose to vindicate your pessimism

Duckonstilts
Duckonstilts
21 March, 2019 15:59
I'm possibly the most optimistic person I know and even I think its going to be tough.

Rotation was needed though and any team with Harrison, Reinarch and Biggar in has a chance.

ElySaint
ElySaint
21 March, 2019 16:18
[quote Wilson Pickett][quote tedge][quote ElySaint][quote Wilson Pickett][quote ElySaint]I'm not overly optimistic about this one - for many of the reasons Andysaint talks about. We've been poor away from home all season. Both sides look reasonably strong and I expect Tigers to lift their game as I hope we do. One thing that strikes me is another 8 changes to our team - great rotation or unsettled team? We'll see, looking forward to what I hope is a good game without Barnes ruining it.[/quote]


You're not overly optimistic? Well I never.../quote]

I don't really need to answer that. I mean, you're just repeating what I said anyway. I don't see your point in that - unless you're trying to belittle my opinion?[/quote]

ElySaint how could you possibly think that ?[/quote]



Tedge: “However full your glass might be it looks an exceptionally difficult task to get many points from these games”

you’re as bad as each other, I swear you actually want us to lose to vindicate your pessimism[/quote]

I would love us to win every game WP. I just don't think we have as good a chance tomorrow as you seem to. It isn't wrong to have a different opinion to you. I offered a couple of reasons why I feel the way I do a) poor away form this season, b) strong Tigers team etc. Much better to engage with these points than to just dismiss it out of hand, no?

Twsaint - absolutely take your point about the turnaround and rotation. Ultimately it should be for the best that we do get everyone as much game time as possible. Just seemed a high number on first instinct.

However, like I say, hoping for a good game.

HungryLikeTheWolf
Wilson Pickett
21 March, 2019 17:05
Fair enough, my comment is regards your constant pessimism highlighted by the hyperbolic doomsday post straight after the Bristol game. I’m not surprised that you don’t expect us to win.



Bookies have Tigers to win by 1.5 points, so the market thinks its 50/50



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 21/03/2019 17:07 by Wilson Pickett.

LeicesterSaint
LeicesterSaint
21 March, 2019 17:55
Many are the posts/tweets made immediately after games and regretted! Most recently a took a beating on Twitter after the England Wales game for suggesting that AWN had managed the ref well (I also referred to him as Wyn Jones but in general it was meant as a compliment!).

I now have a policy of not posting anything until the day after games, however my inebriated self doesn't really respect the rule enough!

HungryLikeTheWolf
Wilson Pickett
21 March, 2019 18:17
Form - Tigers are better at home than away, as are we. Tigers did get thumped by Sale last game though. Tigers +.

Psychology - We have broadly more confidence across the team and club. Saints +.

Set piece - they have a better scrum, line outs even. Tigers +.

Breakdown - O’Connor is a menace but we have Brussouw and Harrison. Saints +.

Gain line/ball carrying. They have Tuilagi, Thompson, Genge who are all prodigious ball carriers. We have Big T, Teimana. Still, Tigers +.

Half backs - ours considerably better at game management and Cobus a huge threat on the break. Saints +.

Creativity. Saints have shown much better patterns of play to create holes, score tries. Saints +.


To me it comes down to whether we can make our creativity matter more than their set piece. We should be looking for soft shoulders in and around the breakdown with quick ball as their big guys try to get back into line.

I would be testing their 11 and 15 with high balls quite a bit to start. Make every kick competitive. You’d suggest their back 3 probably have a weakness kicking from hand which may be interesting if Dan B can pin them back from time to time.


Just play our way and there should be plenty of points out there. I think we can win but bookies price sounds about right.

St Saltaire
St Saltaire
21 March, 2019 18:57
This will be a very tough game. No matter how poorly Tigers are playing they always raise their game against Saints - it’s a proper Derby match and the outcome will probably be close. If we manage the game as well as we did against Sarries we’ll stand a chance. I hate to say it but I think the Tigers will sneak a win.

tigerburnie
tigerburnie
21 March, 2019 19:00
We have been miss firing quite badly, but feel with home advantage we can take the points, expecting a typical East Mids Derby so it won't be easy.

195Rich
195Rich
21 March, 2019 19:07
Think that Tigers should have too much power for us - but if we can start well and get our noses in front then confidence comes into play and Saints sould steal it! Certainly hope so!!


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