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Re: Vunipola can't hack it at the top
Posted by: falconsfan07
Date: 20/09/2017 16:17
The game knacks you in either way anyway so that's cod wallop
so it doesn't really matter, with the amount of sports recovery/offered after a game these players are more than capable of recovering after 6 days of no games.

Should be greatful that he can play the game and receive the amount of money he does, if certainly do it for that money.

Problem is, you couldn't.

If you read what he has said its quite c
lear its not about the money. Its about career longevity and not damaging his body to the extent that he's permanently impaired for the rest of his life.

6 days really isn't a long time for recovery in a high impact contact sport.

Oooo hi mate, I know I couldn't I didn't say I could play at that level, I said If I could, so I don't need to be told from a moody sarries fan.

I didn't say it was about the money mate, I said he should be greatful that he can play in a job he loves and get paid what he does and has no right to strike frankly because he is very lucky, if he wants to look after his body he's in the wrong job or needs to stop playing for England. unlike people in in other jobs who get treat very wrongly.

I know that it's about the body, that's what I said! And the game knacks you up either I said before?

Yes 6 days is more than enough to recover from a game. Do you know why? Because on Saturdays the players play and then they do it again the week after that for the whole season. Did you know that they do that for a whole season!? It's mad isn't it

I played three games a week at one point, that's with no kryo recovery or therapist. And yes I know that it's at ametur level but still it can be done.

With all the recovery drinks, dieting and therapy that goes in these days, these guys are more than capable of performing at this level for 8 months round.

Funny....I never hear David Pocock complain about this stuff? Probably because he is a phenomenal athlete and strikes about far more important matters in the real world!

I should know all this. It's sort of my job..... I'm a PT winking smiley

I don't think a boy from a small fishing in Tonga needs to be told to be grateful to be honest...

Its not enough time at all, at elite level playing internationally and against the best teams in Europe puts a huge amount of pressure on the body. He missed the Lions tour due to the amount of rugby he'd played. You could say clubs have to manage it better, absolutely agree with that but you say to a player do you want to sit this one out? The answer will be no 99 times out of 100.

respect your point but 3 games a week might be aerobically demanding but you aren't playing against athletes of their nature so it won't leave the same impact.

Only got to look at Corbisiero to see these guys don't it forever no matter how much they're being paid.

No disrespect but being a PT doesn't make you understand all the fine details of the physical and psychological demands of elite level contact sports and recovery times.

I played at Kingston Park a few months ago against North East RL, I was still feeling the affects 10 days later...

Vunipola wasn't born in Tonga, and was raised in UK and played at one of the best private schools in the UK, he should be grateful that he is doing a job he loves.

I know being a PT and the fact that I played 3 matches in a week doesn't mean much, but I like to think I know how to look after myself, and like to think I kind of know a little bit about sports science and getting the best out of the body. And I know Billy doesn't do that.... an example would be.

After the cc final last season billy, got absolutely @#$%& in edinbrugh. Had to be carried out of a club when he had the prem semi final a week later, alcohol severely dehydrates and slows muscle recovery, he could of had a few beers and called it a night, but he did not look after his body.

Juan Pablo Socino played all but one game and did it last season and he really looks after himself, when I look at Vunipola/corbiserio you can tell...well they clearly like their grub and their bevs, and that is the issue you need to look after your body.

The bit that bothers me, is his fitness, because its always been an issue for him and he should look after himself better if he does not want to get injured guys in the army always get injuries from running, just like he is always going to get niggles at the least playing rugby at the very top.

Just comes across as selfish and a bit me me me...but that just my opinion, well paid pro rugby players threatening to strike when people are in far worse situations is just mad.

Agree re pressure on the body and what these guys go through, but he got injured in a top level game against the best side in England, these things happen. Tough luck for him really. These guys are absolute warriors and are really committed in everything they do so it's just a tough subject really.

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