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England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
By SK88 19/11/09
November 19 2009
And lo it is upon us, our day of reckoning or so some would have you believe. On Saturday England take on New Zealand, the all mighty All Blacks, the Bledisloe Cup holders and the no.1 ranked team in the world. The slayers of the Welsh dragons and the glue makers of the Italian Stallions

England v New Zealand

Saturday 21/11/09 - Kick Off 2.30pm Twickenham

Match Preview & Thoughts

 

 

 New Zealand - Haka - All Pictures by Empics

And lo it is upon us, our day of reckoning or so some would have you believe. 

On Saturday, England take on New Zealand, the all mighty All Blacks, the Bledisloe Cup holders and the no.1 ranked team in the world. The slayers of the Welsh dragons and the glue makers of the Italian Stallions come to Twickenham on the back of three wins and a good run of form, although this incarnation is no match for previous ones it is none the less a serious proposition. 

England have struggled for fluency this Autumn’ though a good second half against Argentina showed what is possible when England’s forwards have an opportunity to show their off loading game, hopefully we shall see this from the off against a New Zealand team never shy to run the ball. 


England have decided to recall veteran Wasp’s Shaw and Worsley, along with a first start for, former Leicester & Wasp’s, Ayoola Erinle. These additions will no doubt add a great ball carrying and physical element to a side that has lacked vertical penetration so far this autumn. Geraghty returns to the bench, covering fly half, where hopefully he will provide better service than in the last two games where his failure to hold the inside defence has stifled England’s outside backs of ball. He is reunited with Dan Hipkiss who he formed such a successful partnership with last season as they guided Leicester to the League title and a European Cup final.

 Englands Joe Worsley before the Six Nations match against Wales at the Millenium Stadium, Cardiff.

Joe Worsley

Worsley's recall comes at the expense of an out of sorts Croft, who has failed to hit the heights of last season or the Lions tour evidenced this week with a IRB international player of the year award. Worsley is a hard tackler, with under rated hands, he doesn’t provided Croft’s threats in the line out but the dark arts are seldom appreciated. Shaw comes in for an unfortunate Deacon, who suffers a bad reputation due to the afore mentioned appreciation of the dark arts of the ruck and maul. Shaw is a man mountain and his presence alone could quicken up England’s anaemic speed of ball, whilst his linking play is second to none. 


Among the replacements Mat Tait resumes his 6 Nations role as number 22, and Bath’s David Wilson is fit again after injuring his shoulder/ neck against Australia; why he is only on the bench whilst his club colleague, Duncan Bell, continues is any ones guess. Wilson is superior in all facets, except possible pie eating, whilst Gloucester prop Doran-Jones can count himself hard done by after a good debut. In a unsurprising positional switch Cueto and Monye swap shirts, hopefully allowing England more solidarity under the high ball and also more pace out wide. 


In the New Zealand team Dan Carter returns after a one week ban, for what many will feel was a fair tackle. His tactical kicking, distribution and defence are unmatched among his peers, even the venerated Wilkinson is no longer a match. He will no doubt run the show, given half the chance, so England must restricted the possession he has and the places he has it. 


As good as he is forwards still win matches, and it is this area that England can dominate. It is doubtful if such a weak New Zealand pack has ever travelled to these shores. The great McCaw aside a streak of weakness runs through the pack. Hore is suspect in both the set pieces, with either potential reserve inexperienced and frankly not as good as England’s two options. Kieran Read is no Zinzan Brooke or Buck Shelford, and Hodgson should disrupt him at the base, as an All Black back rower he is formidable in the loose but the English back row has nothing to fear and arguably is better in all positions. The great shame is that injuries have so castrated England’s propping resources the woeful front row of New Zealand will probably not only go unpunished but could dominated Payne and Bell. White, Vickery and Sheridan would make minced meat of them. 

 

 

Ma’a Nonu


Ma’a Nonu wears 12 and his lack of kicking game should be used to our advantage. In the summer his poor kicking forced all the defensive duties on reserve fly half Donald, with France able to dominate territory and thus win the match. Although Carter is, of course, significantly a better player than Donald this tactic could be well used by England. Any slack kicking by the English team will be pounced upon by an exciting and talented back three of the All Blacks. Muliaina is one of the world’s premier full backs, with power bursts and magic side steps coming from Fijian-cum-New Zealander Sivivatu. Guildford, who sadly lost his farther during the Under 20’s World Cup final, is a good prospect although England may profit from his lack of experience. If there is one area where the All Blacks look worryingly better than their English counter parts it is here. 


I know some fans seek to blame the coaches for what is ultimately the players ineptitude, but this team has the capability to front up and beat the All Blacks. We have the players in the first XV to pin them back in their own half, and the players on the bench to change the game if it is needed. A poor New Zealand team is still a dangerous animal and the England players need to respect them, without being in awe of them. Leicester and Saracens have shown that the SANZAR nations aren’t some untouchable Gods playing on the fields of Mount Olympus, but fallible humans whose weaknesses are there to be exposed if you are willing to put the graft in. England are far from favourites but they can win and I am willing to believe and back them. This could be the first steps on our long walk to regain our crown in Eden Park. 


Key Match ups: 
Woodcock vs Bell & Franks vs Payne 
The front row is always key to the outcome of any game and this is no different. If England can pressurise the New Zealand scrum the flow of penalties and thus territory could be the vital ingredient in an England win. However experienced Woodcock and youngster Franks are no push overs and could well dominate the less than intimidating England pair. 

           
Thorn vs Borthwick 

As with the scrum the line out is vital in denying the opposition a supply of ball, England should be secure on our own ball. It is whether Borthwick, practically on his own with the less mobile Shaw and shorter Worsley at 6, can stem the flow of Kiwi ball. He is a magnificent line out operator but Thorn is agile and the New Zealanders have more options in the back row. It will be closer than could have been had Croft been picked but he will get on and a late foray into the line out could prove vital. 


Nonu vs Hipkiss 
Hipkiss will almost certainly play 12 to Erinle’s 13, whatever their actual numbers are. Neither Nonu nor Hipkiss have kicking games to speak of, which will force pressure on the fly halves especially as neither of the full backs have outstanding boots (c.f. Kearney). However both are strong ball carriers, Nonu more direct Hipkiss favouring the side step. With Smith and Erinle outside them they shouldn’t want for support so how these two use their under rated passing games could be key, both partnerships are honed as club mates (or very recent club mates in England’s case) so should have a better understanding than Hipkiss and Geraghty had. 

 

England: 15 Cueto (Sale); 14 Banahan (Bath), 13 Hipkiss (Leicester), 12 Erinle (Biarritz),  11 Monye (Harlequins); 10 Wilkinson (Toulon),  9 Hodgson (London Irish); 1 Payne (Wasps), 2 Hartley (Northampton), 3 Bell (Bath), 4 Shaw (Wasps),  5 Borthwick (Saracens, Captain), 6 Worsley (Wasps), 7 Moody (Leicester), 8 Haskell (Stade Français).
Replacements: 16 Thompson (Brive), 17 Wilson (Bath), 18 Deacon (Leicester), 19 Croft (Leicester), 20 Care (Harlequins),21 Geraghty (Northampton), 22 Tait (Sale).

New Zealand All Blacks: 
NZ Team:  1. Tony Woodcock (59 Tests) 2. Andrew Hore (45) 3. Owen Franks (7) 4. Brad Thorn (35) 5. Tom Donnelly (4) 6. Adam Thomson (14) 7. Richie McCaw (78, Captain) 8. Kieran Read (14) 9. Jimmy Cowan (31) 10. Dan Carter (64) 11. Sitiveni Sivivatu (41) 12. Ma’a Nonu (44) 13. Conrad Smith (31) 14. Zac Guildford (1) 15. Mils Muliaina (80) 
Replacements: 16. Corey Flynn (6) / Aled de Malmanche (2) 17. John Afoa (22) 18. Anthony Boric (11) 19. Jerome Kaino (23) 20. Andy Ellis (12) 21. Stephen Donald (28) 22. Tamati Ellison (1)





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England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Unofficial England Rugby Union (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 10:39

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Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Kath. (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 10:42

Big Thank You to SK88 for this Excellent Preview smileys with beer

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Rarua (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 11:21

How very balanced!

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: dawson9 (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 11:33

Quote:
Shaw comes in for an unfortunate Deacon, who suffers a bad reputation due to the afore mentioned appreciation of the dark arts of the ruck and maul.

(Sm22)


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England are far from favourites but they can win and I am willing to believe and back them. This could be the first steps on our long walk to regain our crown in Eden Park.

(Sm6) If it happens I will be the first to come on here, cap in hand, but this is the funniest thing I have read in a long time - it's as if the past two games haven't happened!

We are going to get thrashed.

England 6 - 42 New Zealand.

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: SK 88 (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 12:33

A bit of confidence never did any one any harm!

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: clutch (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 12:35

It won't be that much. We'll hold them for 55 mins. Probably finish 12-30 ish.

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 16:04

Confidence? Some blind optimism there.

"Vertical penetration"? Erinle is taller than Geraghty, I suppose.

I suspect this will be closer than expected due to John Wells whipping up the pack for the one good outing in five that they manage to produce under his stewardship, so we can claim positives, looking ahead, plenty to build on all the other mantras which have flowed out of England interviews for far, far, far, too long now.

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Duncan Keene (IP Logged)
Date: 19/11/2009 18:21

Brw, are you seriously claiming geraghty is a better runner than erinle?

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: SK 88 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/11/2009 00:20

BRW, i.e up the field not just faffing across it. Erinle will break the line and (hopefully) give an off loading option to the forwards behind the NZ defensive line.

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Horowhenua (IP Logged)
Date: 20/11/2009 06:51

I cant wait for our@#$%&forwards to demolish you poms. What does the selecion of shaw say for england rugby? Surely there must be a younger player to select, you guys have the most players in the world to choose from.

I love reading articles like this, it makes beating you guys more satisfying!

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 20/11/2009 09:15

I'm claiming that Geraghty can actually catch the ball, pass it, has a good kicking game and has shown this season that he is capable of some very good things when he is played in the correct manner, i.e. a manner completely alien to England coaching team who seem content to waste the talents of so many players in favour of military medium journeymen and never-weres like Erinle.

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: SK 88 (IP Logged)
Date: 21/11/2009 01:07

England players (not just our friend Geraghty) need to play flatter and actually test the opposition line. Maybe Geraghty at 10 and Wilko dropped would have been an option, but this is what we have. passing the ball and drawing no one does nothing.

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Andy_Shark (IP Logged)
Date: 21/11/2009 11:11

MATCH PREVIEW

Kickoff

England Catch

Ruck

Poor Kick

NZ Catch

Work through Phases

Use backline

Try NZ

England Kick off

NZ catch

Ruck

Kick

England catch/drop

Poor Kick

NZ Catch

Work Phases

Use Backline

Try NZ

AND REPEAT HOWEVER MANY TIMES IN 80 MINS

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Leggs (IP Logged)
Date: 21/11/2009 12:43

Horowenhua. Its the same old story with NZ, play brilliantly between world cups, and then bottle it when it ncomes to the final stages (Sm100)

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Rarua (IP Logged)
Date: 21/11/2009 15:20

Wilkinson is so far back that England has to leave him out whenever they want to attack.

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Leggs (IP Logged)
Date: 21/11/2009 15:22

Agree

Re: England v New Zealand Match Preview & Thoughts
Posted by: Rarua (IP Logged)
Date: 21/11/2009 16:22

Because your fly half is not primed to attack all England's attacks are done in harum scarum desperation modes. This doesn't really start happening until all is already lost.

What have the Pommie establishment got against running the ball? You've got what appears to me a fairly classy guy who plays fly half but Wilkinson is picked instead. And the classy fly half is brought on as a substitute centre when there is no time for real chance of success.

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