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Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh


By Bedfordshire Boy
January 15 2017

What the Dickens happened yesterday? I am not sure that any of us contemplated anything other than a win for Quins albeit Edinburgh showed how they could cut the Quins defence to ribbons during the earlier encounter at Murrayfield. 

Not sure why I am trying to get something down on paper as to be honest, I am pretty much lost for words. In the 20 years I have been traipsing down to The Stoop I have witnessed some pretty poor performances and this one was up there as being one of the worst. I know it was not our strongest team on show but at times it looked as though some of the players had never met before let alone spent a week training together. Quins had plenty of possession but the backline always seemed to be very flat with nobody attempting to run onto the ball which made defending by the well drilled Edinburgh side very straightforward.

The early part of the game was fairly even with Weir and Swiel exchanging penalties. It took 25 minutes for the first try of the match when lock forward McKenzie ran in to touch down from 20 meters out with the Quins defence looking on. With the conversion the score moved on to 3 - 10 after 26 minutes following a straightforward Blair conversion. With a second penalty to each side converted by Weir and Swiel we found ourselves looking at a scoreline of 6 -13 at the half time interval. The only good things to come out of the first period were that Quins were not further behind on the scoreboard and that the coaches had plenty to work on to get the team motivated for the second half.

Fraser McKenzie scores Edinburgh's first try

Whatever had been said at half time seemed to work as the Quins side were full of purpose for the first seven or eight minutes of the half and really pressed the Edinburgh line. Wayward passing and basic errors were the result of each attack and the Edinburgh side looked comfortable in defence and managed to clear their lines on each occasion. Neither team troubled the scoreboard until thirteen minutes into the half when defensive lapses again allowed Edinburgh's prop Dell to run in for their second try which again was easily converted by Weir. This score was taken while Quins were down to fourteen men for the second time in the match after Sinckler received a yellow card for retaliation on the Edinburgh number six Bradbury.

Kyle Sinckler is shown a yellow card

You had the feeling that things could only get worse from now on in, and they did. Lots of endeavour by Quins, all to no avail, and Edinburgh put the nail in he coffin with 10 minutes to go when Weir converted his third penalty after Ward found himself the third Quins player to take a 10 minute rest period following his yellow card. Quins 6, Edinburgh 23 after 70 minutes. Finding it difficult to watch at this time but I do recall Hopper, Jackson, Dickson, Luamanu and Grey coming on for the latter stages to see if they could change the game. Special mention of the great reception from the crowd when Adam Jones entered the fray.  Quins definitely upped the pace but were still being let down by unforced errors. Even when Yarde made a great break into the Edinburgh 22 here was no concerted back up and another opportunity went begging.

Harlequins Marland Yarde

 

With the stands emptying fast and the supporters showing their displeasure at “The Mighty Quins” clarion call being played over the PA, Luamanu crashed over the Edinburgh line for a score. With the clock on 79 minutes, Jackson scored the conversion from a well taken drop goal and Quins lined up to receive the restart kick from Edinburgh which was well taken allowing Quins to mount one final attack. At long last this was a Quins team worth watching and they were rewarded when Grey went over to score a second try for Quins with the clock well into the red. Jackson missed the conversion attempt but Quins had somehow managed to get themselves an undeserved losing bonus point out of the game.

Harlequins Tim Swiel looks dejected

There is something very wrong at the moment, the team cannot possibly have been coached to play the way they did, can they? Throughout the game there  was (yet again) aimless kicking out of defence with a Quins player chasing the ball being a very rare event. Compare that to an Edinburgh side who were quickly up chasing every ball and if some of their kicking had been a tad shorter, Quins could well have been in much more trouble. Playing 30 out of the 80 minutes with fourteen men also didn`t help. It was a very Scrooge-like performance by Edinburgh giving absolutely nothing away until the very end after they had the game in the bag.

Fortress Stoop seemed more like Bleak House on Saturday and it was the closest I have come to walking out of a Quins game before the final whistle. Getting beaten is one thing, getting beaten with an apparent lack of interest from some of the players and the complete lack of an obvious game plan is another.

Having said all that, I will be in Paris next weekend supporting the team and hoping for the sort of performance that will get us a qualification spot in the cup quarter finals.

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Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
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15/01/2017 19:10
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Bucksquin (IP Logged)
15/01/2017 19:28
Very well-written and helpful report, thank you.

 
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Harley Quin (IP Logged)
15/01/2017 19:36
Thanks for the report. This is the first 'Bleak House' performance at home. If we play at home like we have away from home it is going to be a long drag to May. I think we need a defibrillator fast!

 
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InsertQuinsPunHere (IP Logged)
15/01/2017 19:43
Thanks for the write up. Not much more to say really. Not a pleasant task.

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
DOK (IP Logged)
15/01/2017 23:08
many thanks to Bedfordshire Boy. I was just going to pretend Saturday never happened, but he produced an excellent piece on our performance (or lack of!).

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
rdc (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 02:25
Yeah I felt the same only I did walk into and on top of freezing my button off, I kissed our only tries. A miserable afternoon I'd sooner forget

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
DOK (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 09:34
I have been known to shout, as the queue of leavers turns into a flood at around the 75 minute mark, "You should have bought the 80 minute tickets!".

This week I raised a smile from those around me by looking at the leavers going by and shouting "I wish I had bought a 75 minute ticket!" smiling smiley

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
EastSussexQuin (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 10:04
Very well written. Thank you.

Do you all remember last year the discontent from the crowd in Bath? Quite unusual for rugby crowds, but Bath were booed off the pitch at the end of games, and fans would often leave early.

If quins play like they did on Saturday, do you think it may start happening?

I also don't understand (and I apologise as this has been mentioned in another thread) is why Danny Care is not giving post match interviews? surely the skipper needs to be speaking post match in these situations?

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
RleQuin (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 10:50
Quote:
Newquinfan
Very well written. Thank you.
Do you all remember last year the discontent from the crowd in Bath? Quite unusual for rugby crowds, but Bath were booed off the pitch at the end of games, and fans would often leave early.

If quins play like they did on Saturday, do you think it may start happening?

I also don't understand (and I apologise as this has been mentioned in another thread) is why Danny Care is not giving post match interviews? surely the skipper needs to be speaking post match in these situations?

Probably because he can't be bothered! When the players say they care about the fans and the support they get, I think it's more spin. It's getting like the Labour party machine - just say what you think the people want to hear even if you don't mean it.
Also, if they did care, they wouldn't play like that every week and it is becoming every week now.
RleQ

 
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EastSussexQuin (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 10:57
I wasn't a supporter back when Robshaw was captain, I've obviously seen the thread where he sent a letter to the fans, but did he interview after all of the games? or is it 'the quins way' to send anyone one to do post match interviews? (perhaps they put names in a hat??!)

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
RodneyRegis (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 12:34
Too busy tweeting and eating supper away from the peasants.

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
Bolly-Quin (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 12:41
Tweeting away is unforgivable, but I can see why they wouldn't mind eating in private - the old way was a bit of a fish tank scenario. That doesn't absolve them from a half an hour session in the bars after the game though.

Thanks for the report, BB.

 
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Bedfordshire Boy (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 14:35
I went to the game with no thoughts of writing a report but came away effected in a way I had never experienced before. Win or lose, by the time I have walked back to the car, I have managed to put any negative thoughts behind me. Unusually the performance we had all witnessed stuck with me all the way home and to be honest is still niggling away right now. Writing it all down seemed as if it might exorcise the experience, clearly it did not. It just seemed to me that there was a total lack of team spirit on Saturday, a few individuals stood up, but rugby in particular is a team game and needs everybody doing their bit. If we don`t get a team performance next week then I see little hope of achieving anything this year.

 
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RleQuin (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 14:43
Quote:
Bedfordshire Boy
I went to the game with no thoughts of writing a report but came away effected in a way I had never experienced before. Win or lose, by the time I have walked back to the car, I have managed to put any negative thoughts behind me. Unusually the performance we had all witnessed stuck with me all the way home and to be honest is still niggling away right now. Writing it all down seemed as if it might exorcise the experience, clearly it did not. It just seemed to me that there was a total lack of team spirit on Saturday, a few individuals stood up, but rugby in particular is a team game and needs everybody doing their bit. If we don`t get a team performance next week then I see little hope of achieving anything this year.

This season has already gone BB - there is something seriously wrong within the club, it is obvious to anyone.
At one point on Saturday I think it was Yarde who took a quick lineout - someone caught it and just stood there along with 13 others - it really was like watching a schoolboy side.
Perhaps we could get Deano back - he was about the only one apart from Dick Best who seemed able to stand up to the players and remain in control. Perhaps that old MU manager could be brought in to provide some hair dryer treatment????
RleQ

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
ChipsteadQuin (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 14:58
Thanks BB , captured the atmosphere well .. watching DC coming off to stony silence said it all ..well noted about Mighty Quins clarion call .. my hand went over my face when I heard that !

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
Bedfordshire Boy (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 14:59
By "achieving anything this year" I was referring to avoiding being in a scrap in the relegation battle at the end of the year. I am under no illusion about the position we are in.

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
RleQuin (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 15:02
Fair enough although if results start going against us (as well as our own), we might well be in one.
Let's pray that Bristol and Worcester lose every game.
RleQ

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
Jammy Git (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 15:11
Quote:
RleQuin
Quote:
Newquinfan
Very well written. Thank you.
Do you all remember last year the discontent from the crowd in Bath? Quite unusual for rugby crowds, but Bath were booed off the pitch at the end of games, and fans would often leave early.

If quins play like they did on Saturday, do you think it may start happening?

I also don't understand (and I apologise as this has been mentioned in another thread) is why Danny Care is not giving post match interviews? surely the skipper needs to be speaking post match in these situations?

Probably because he can't be bothered! When the players say they care about the fans and the support they get, I think it's more spin. It's getting like the Labour party machine - just say what you think the people want to hear even if you don't mean it.
Also, if they did care, they wouldn't play like that every week and it is becoming every week now.
RleQ

My understanding is post-match talks are based more on a rota system than anything else, to ensure everyone gets experience of talking to the media and the media gets to hear different voices. That's not Quins-specific and we may do it differently.

O Fortuna, velut luna statu variabilis,
semper crescis aut decrescis

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
rdc (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 16:11
I'm going down to Bristol but fully expect to be handing their ticket to stay up next year. I can't remember a more despondent mood amongst fans since I have been an active supporter (which is post relegation)

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
rdc (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 16:12
I'm going down to Bristol but fully expect to be handing them their ticket to stay up next year. I can't remember a more despondent mood amongst fans since I have been an active supporter (which is post relegation)

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
NicoWilson (IP Logged)
16/01/2017 16:57
Thank you for the write up. Difficult one to do but this is how I remember it.

I felt only positive moment was the arrival of Adam Jones seemed to lift the team.

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
rdc (IP Logged)
18/01/2017 17:36
I'm going down to Bristol but fully expect to be handing them their ticket to stay up next year. I can't remember a more despondent mood amongst fans since I have been an active supporter (which is post relegation)

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
GrubbyQuin (IP Logged)
18/01/2017 18:41
You going to Bristol rdc?

 
Re: Great Expectations - Harlequins vs Edinburgh
never sleep (IP Logged)
18/01/2017 20:00
I'm not going down to Bristol and don't fully expect to be handing their ticket to stay up next year.

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