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MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS

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By Dobbin
September 25 2009
Back in the dim and distant days before club rugby reckoned itself a major sport, before anyone had thought of buying blood capsules from joke shops and when a player's drug of choice was alcohol or tobacco, rugby clubs played at grounds with pavilions, club-houses and long grass. A visit to Sunbury for the annual London Irish away game was invariably one of the highlights of the season.
There was something about the atmosphere, about the packed bars, the raucous post-match din, the Guinness, the drizzle outside, the secondariness of the result, that was infectious. It didn't matter that the Symbolics, an ageing two-piece who appeared to be the house band (“I'm Sim, and he's Bollo...”) had done exactly the same set last year (and probably at every other Irish home game as well), it was part of the tradition – you even found yourself joining in with their inevitable homage to Swing Low (“You can stick your bleep chariot up your bleep). Waiting (some hours later) at Sunbury train station for the once yearly service back into London, all the while trying to manage an overstretched bladder, wasn't so much fun, but it was worth putting up with for the entertainment that preceded it. Those were the days, as Mary Hopkins once sang.

Nowadays, of course, London Irish like London Wasps have departed to a football ground some miles distant from the 'London' of their name. Inevitably, for both clubs, something of the old atmosphere has been lost along the way. Perhaps it's just the natural loss of intimacy that comes with larger crowds and bigger stadiums – after all, even the clubs who have developed their own grounds, the Northamptons and Harlequins, seem to have lost something of the intimacy and friendliness they once had (although Quins, I think, come closest to maintaining that feel of the past – a lesson, ironically, that they were taught by Irish when the Exiles were briefly tenants some seasons ago). When members become customers and clubs become businesses, perhaps the peripheral entertainments that used to make a visit to Sunbury so rewarding become the first casualties of the bottom line. But if that's the case, what makes up for it? What is the quid pro quo?

It was reported in the week that Irish are currently trying to advance plans that would see them moving to brand new, state-of-the-art training facilities, abandoning their current Sunbury base for good. The ground at which so much amateur-era fun and games were to be had will be bulldozed and built on, a fate that has already befallen Wasps' old ground at Sudbury. Why? Because, I suppose, they believe that this will give them a greater chance of winning things. It will give them an edge, both in terms of training and recruitment. Or at the very least it will enable them to keep pace with those clubs who have already done the same thing.

Winning. High performance. That's the quid pro quo. Sacrifices off the pitch are expected to be compensated for by successes (and hopefully entertainment) on it. And you can't deny that London Irish are moving in the right direction in these terms. Last season they reached the Guinness Premiership final playing some of the most adventurous rugby in the league. The season before they made the semi-finals of the Heineken Cup, suffering a narrow loss to French giants Toulouse at Twickenham. This season, after an uncharacteristically sloppy loss to Saracens at the double-header (a game which they could and should have won), they hit their straps with a 40-10 demolition of Gloucester. They followed this up with a fifty point thumping of Leeds last Sunday. If they carry on playing like that, running in tries for fun, then I don't suppose many of the fans in the Madejski crowd will be nostalgically crying into their pints about Sunbury.

Wasps, of course, have had all the success in the world. The long-ago loss of Sudbury, of real roots, has been more than compensated for, if on-field success is your quid pro quo. We are currently (albeit long-windedly) looking at moving to a brand new stadium in partnership with Wycombe Wanderers. It would be nice to think that any such stadium, the first (to my knowledge) being built with both rugby and football in mind, would be designed at least as much for rugby fans as for their football equivalents. Take the best from the dedicated rugby grounds and incorporate it into the design – try to ensure that the match-day experience is as much about the day as the match. Is that too much for a customer to ask?

On the pitch, Wasps have started the season in bewildering fashion – by winning games. But Sunday at the Madejski will undoubtedly be the hardest match to date. We have a good record against London Irish in the Premiership, with a 15-9 win/loss record, and have won on two of our last three league visits to Reading. However, you feel that we will have to up our performance considerably from the match against Worcester to compete this time around.

In the Irish team, the most significant change over the summer came at fly-half, with the departure of Shane Geraghty and the arrival of Ryan Lamb from Gloucester. In the first match at Twickenham, Lamb didn't really deliver the performance Toby Booth and Mike Catt would have been expecting, but he was man of the match against Gloucester and contributed six conversions and three penalties against Leeds. I think you can probably say he's settled in.

In the backs, Lamb is surrounded by bulk and then more bulk. Saliosi Tagicakibau, Seilala Mapusua, Elvis Seveali'i – in the old days at Sunbury they would have made a half-decent front-row. One thing's for sure, the Wasps midfield are going to have a bruising day one way or another. And if Lamb has an off-day with the boot, there's always Peter Hewat to call on. The loss of Delon Armitage is a blow, but Irish have the personnel to cover it.

Up front, Nick Kennedy will be looking to steal lineout ball, Steffon Armitage likewise at ruck time. Wasps did well in these areas last week and will need to step up to the plate again. The maul was less successful against a strong Worcester pack (why we insisted on trying it again and again is anyone's guess) – let's hope there's been some fine tuning in practice this week. In the backs, Dominic Waldouck had a fine return and, if Steve Kefu has failed to recover from his groin problem, will surely start at inside centre again. The rest of the backline should be as you were.

The predictions don't get any easier. Wasps have been playing effectively without really hitting the heights as yet. Irish have hit some heights but then Gloucester and Leeds are difficult opponents to gauge. All in all, though, I'd have to go with home advantage yet again and suggest Irish will sneak a tight one...with lots of tries...if that makes sense.

KEY MEN

This week – everyone.

 

London Wasps: 15 Lachlan Mitchell; 14 Paul Sackey, 13 Ben Jacobs, 12 Dominic Waldouck, 11 Tom Varndell; 10 Danny Cipriani, 9 Joe Simpson; 1 Tim Payne, 2 Rob Webber, 3 Phil Vickery, 4 George Skivington, 5 Richard Birkett, 6 Joe Worsley, 7 Serge Betsen (capt.), 8 John Hart

Bench: 16 Tom Lindsay, 17 Charlie Beech, 18 Ben Broster, 19 Dan Leo, 20 Dan Ward-Smith, 21 Warren Fury, 22 Dave Walder, 23 Mark Odejobi

London Irish: 15 Peter Hewat; 14 Adam Thompstone, 13 Elvis Seveali'i, 12 Seilala Mapusua, 11 Sailosi Tagicakibau, 10 Ryan Lamb, 9 Paul Hodgson; 1 Clarke Dermody, 2 David Paice, 3 Paulica Ion, 4 Nick Kennedy, 5 Bob Casey(capt.), 6 Declan Danaher, 7 Steffon Armitage, 8 Chris Hala'Ufia

Bench: 16 Dan Murphy, 17 Danie Coetzee, 18 Faan Rautenbach, 19 Andy Perry, 20 Richard Thorpe, 21 Chris Malone, 22 Peter Richards, 23 Alfredo Lalanne

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MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: DrunkenWasps.com (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 06:30

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: mulledwinemarie (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 07:18

Thank you - geat preview

MWM

London Irish - and loving it...........

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Hangover (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 07:39

Excellent Dobbin I could almost smell the Guinness again.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: antoinog (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 07:53

LI supporter here - nice write up and looking forward to a great game on Sunday.

To those Wasp supporters making the trip to the MadStad, hope you have a fun, if not successful, time - and hope to see some of you there with a pint of AG
(Sm128)

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: RossM (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 08:07

Dobbin: Your previews have rapidly become one of the highlights of my week.

Aaah, memories of old Sunbury. I used to play down the club for London Scottish (at one time we fielded fifteen XVs, no subs in those days). One Saturday, I ended up hooking for Irish against Scottish, due to a mutual screw-up with selection postcards. Had a high old time in Fitz's bar, only know that 'we' won. Did it matter? Nooooooooooo.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: AlecW (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 08:33

Dobbin - that is a really good preview: all credit to you, sir!

(Sm152)

Alec from LI

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: wasperine (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 09:23

Nice one. A right good read.
Let's hope the result will be too ..thumbs down

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I think, therefore I am a Waspie.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: KevinTheB (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 09:54

Quote:
RossM
Dobbin: Your previews have rapidly become one of the highlights of my week.

I second, third and fourth that comment.

It puts some professional writers to shame!

KevinTheB

www.justgiving.com/kevinbroadbent

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: dom (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 10:01

A masterful summary. You're right, it should be quid pro bibendum et al. If only we could get to the snug...

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Props are not stupid (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 12:17

I really enjoyed reading that, thanks!

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: waspymatt (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 14:39

Superb preview once again!

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Zimwasp (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 15:13

Lets hope for loads of clean ball from both packs - because this is a great clash of backlines.
Iorish with age&experience/size/attack
verses
Wasps with youth&exuberance/speed/defense.

Skill and inventivness will win out the day.

I recall a try fest at wasps where catty stole the show away from the rush defence - great skill despoite the bad wasps result.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: WaspMark (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 16:00

top article again Dobbin. thank you for such a good read on a friday.

as to the match - It'll be won and lost between the opposing 6-9s for me.

If Serge & Worzle can get to Lamb - and lets face it, Serge is playing better these days than when he was making the likes of Wilko scared of their own shadow, while Worzle knocks back 17stone centres with the ease the rest of us would have knocking back bitter shandies - then Lamb is the type of player who could be thrown out of sync. He's on fire atm, playing flat and fizzing passes and that's letting the guys around him play with ease and fluidity.

But if lamb is taken out of the game (in the metaphorical sense) by our tree choppers then Maps, Hodgson and the Irish back-row will spend all day tidying up rather than playing. Likewise if Simmo can get all over hodgson it'll be the same story.

If Lamb & Hodgson are allowed to play, I think cracks will appear in our defence from the odd high ball etc and we'll struggle.

But I think we're building nicely, I think we've got a very solid team. I think that especially without Stowers Irish probably don't have quite enough to deal with the extras that simmo, TV and cips bring whilst also having to keep their eyes on our centres, sacks and serge.

and I think that if it all does go belly up then we have an incredible artsenal on the bench. potential to throw cips to 15 and DW 10, DWS / Leo / Lindsay can add dynamism.

Wasps by 6 at most and probably a lot closer.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Clontarf (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 16:05

Excellent preview, appetite well whetted (I think that's how to spell it).

Should be a great day.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: NorthHarrow (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 16:47

Dobbin - I join all the others who have congratulated you on such an excellent piece; please keep it up. You could make a good living writing as well as you do.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: waspman (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 17:44

Excellent preview of the game Dobbin.

looking forward to a good one !

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Dobbin (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 20:38

Quote:
You could make a good living writing as well as you do.

That sounds good. Where do I sign up? grinning smiley

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Montagu (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 21:51

Dobbin,

Bit slow and with nothing new to add (me, not you) (Sm13)

Please keep them coming. Excellent.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Smirnoff Blue (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 23:46

We are currently (albeit long-windedly) looking at moving to a brand new stadium in partnership with Wycombe Wanderers. It would be nice to think that any such stadium, the first (to my knowledge) being built with both rugby and football in mind, would be designed at least as much for rugby fans as for their football equivalents.

I think the first stadium built specifically for both rugby and football was actually the JJB Stadium at Wigan, now named the DW Stadium.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: dom (IP Logged)
Date: 25/09/2009 23:58

Think soccer was an afterthought, there.

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: James. (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2009 06:55

Smirnoff,

that would be rugby legue, not rugby.

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James

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: RogerE (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2009 10:35

Same (Footy and RL) applies to the KC stadium in Hull.

However it is more like a footy stadium than a traditional Rugby stadium.

Also it wouldn't do for RU as there is no car parking within a mile or so on match days. There is, however, a superb park and ride.

Roger

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: Ex Lock (IP Logged)
Date: 26/09/2009 12:50

Dobbin great article
Is the photo of Birks ?

Re: MATCH PREVIEW: LONDON IRISH v WASPS
Posted by: James. (IP Logged)
Date: 27/09/2009 06:30

Yep.

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James

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