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Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)


Gone, not forgotten ...

By Rob Smith
April 19 2012

Here we are in early Sept 1995. Lots of talk within the club about a stadium at Sudbury, generating finance, contracts and new players. For me the season challenges on the field were my focus, need to be in the first professional premier league, need to be the top four to secure European Cup Rugby. 

After training on Tuesday night, Rob Andrew comes over for a chat. “I’ve been contacted by Sir John Hall and he has offered me terms to join Newcastle next season”. Sir John had just been recently announced as the new owner of Newcastle RFC, a sign of things to come. Newcastle were currently a Div 3 club and not a direct competitor to Wasps at this time on the rugby field. “ Rob “ I replied “we aren’t in a position to put offers together as yet, but I’ll speak to the club officials and….” Rob interrupted me “ You won’t be able to match the offer, believe me” – I did.

Having discussed the issue with the leading lights in the club, on Thursday before training started in front of the long stand I called all the players in and announced to them that Rob had received this offer for next season, was taking is offer and now lets focus on Bristol at home on Saturday. The squad broke into spontaneous applause, including me, trained well and went on to beat Bristol 33-5. This attitude did not last long.

As Sept continued the rugby was good with 3 wins from 4. However mutterings were escalating that Rob was having problems recruiting players of any quality for Newcastle. What we all feared was apparently starting to happen. Rob was looking internally and approaching Wasps players.  To me it was all about balance, but the interests of the club must come first. I had absolutely no issues with Rob on the field, as always he was playing with full commitment, there was no distraction, simply, as a club we could not put together a business plan to start securing the services of our leading players, so they and we were vulnerable.  

Officials around the club were split in their opinions of what action should or should not take place. Then it became apparent that Dean Ryan had signed along with others, Graham Childs, who was moving North with work in any case, Steve Bates and Nick Popplewell. Whilst being totally confident that all concerned would play full on for the club if asked, the remaining players, many exciting younger players may understandably be attracted to big money offers. We had an exceptional youth set up, created by Greg Soffe, Geoff Strange and Alex Finch. We had no money, only a culture and ethos enjoyed, respected by all and a promise and commitment to provide respectable offers. Rob and Dean also had England careers to be considered as any action to remove them would effectively end their aspirations. However once again the main concern had to be what was best for Wasps. It was clear, the rot had to stop.

I arranged to meet with Rob and Dean at training on Tuesday. I meet them in the downstairs office and told them they had to leave the club with immediate effect. Rob knew full well what was coming and gave a characteristic smile, Dean rearranged the furniture a bit . A statement had been prepared and was accepted graciously by all and at that moment to me the Game had turned Professional.

The way forward had been thought through, the squad had assembled upstairs, I walked and announced what action had taken place and that the new captain was Lawrence Dallaglio. Applause once again broke out. Next game was Leicester at home, a massive challenge, we lost 11-21 which sounds a close game but we were soundly beaten. The loss of Rob and Dean should not be underestimated they were experienced, key members of the squad, leaders on and off the field – we could have won with them playing.  A great deal of rebuilding work was required.

Now the rugby had been stabilised, where we ended up rugby wise was once more back fully in our control. The issues now were to prepare the club for the first year of professional rugby set to start in July 1996. Now the fun begins.

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Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
DrunkenWasps.com (IP Logged)
19/04/2012 20:28
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Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
20/04/2012 08:29
Great stuff, keep them coming.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
greenwood (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 08:31
I am not correct in saying that Andrew & Ryan were actually present at that game...As guests of the sponsors.

The sacking of Ryan was the making of Dallaglio.
Both of a player and leader.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
JF (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 08:54
Great article.

It should really be part of a wider project on Wasps' history. Maybe that's something our new owner (he said, uncharacteristically positive in outlook) will look into.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
Ichiro (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 09:14
I remember this as being every bit as crucial a period in the club's history as we are in now. There was every chance that the whole squad would disappear and take the money. There is even some irony that, once again it is Newcastle that are the threat.

The appointment of Lawrence at this time was vital and my admiration for him as a fan was always largely based on what he did in leading the club out of this tricky period. Despite all the trophies he lifted, this may have been his biggest triumph.

Here's hoping that the club comes out the other side as strong as it did 15 years ago. The stakes are maybe even higher.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
20/04/2012 09:45
I think I do recall them standing on the balcony at Sudbury Greenwood

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
greenwood (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 10:55
Abso-bloomin'-lutely.

And by the way that's why I chose greenwood as my name !!



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Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
20/04/2012 11:28
Pure legend wasnt he, great player and a real gent

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
Gordon Brown (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 11:45
I also remember this period well, and with hindsight think that if we had not lost Steve Bates, we would have seen another English legend develop as a Wasp - Jonny Wilkinson. Steve Bates had been his teacher.....

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
smitch (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 12:07
Excellent read and underlines what a sneaky and disgusting sh*t bag rob Andrews is...lucky he has nothing to do with the National set up!...oh hold on a minute!!!!

 
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Beckenham Wasp (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 12:56
As a jobbing surveyor 1 million was quite some sum to turn down, especially if you were at the end of your playing career. He would probably admit that he could have handled the situation a bit better but that is the benefit of hindsight. An interesting analogy would be Tony Grieg's role in World Series Cricket. In both cases you can understand why they behaved the way they did even if it didn't make them morally right.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
greenwood (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 13:07
I remember talking to Rob Smith about this in Milan when I was lucky enough to stay in the same hotel as the players for a Euro match.

He said exactly that all those years ago.
It was the tapping up of the Wasps players that was the problem not Andrews going and his role on a reported 3K a week.

Sir John Hall wanted a squad of players and Andrew didn't have to look far, just across the changing room and training pitch.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
Beckenham Wasp (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 13:56
Well Wass did finish 4th in the league in '96 and then won the Premiership a year later. How much long term damage did it the 'great betrayal' really do. I wasn't an adult at the time so it ever really had that much impact on me. I am sure the emotions at the time were pretty frayed to say the least.



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Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
cardiffsteve (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 16:01
Interesting series this. Reminder of what a peculiar time the first few seasons of professionalism were. Thanks.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
waspernator2 (IP Logged)
20/04/2012 16:32
Rob Smith should definitely write a book.. I'm sure it would be a best seller to rugby fans..

assuming he was able to tell the real story!

Talking of which - I wonder how the Simon Shaw book legal arguments are progressing?

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
Boney (IP Logged)
22/04/2012 08:03
At this time too, Rob had returned from the World Cup as a hero after his drop goal in the 25-22 win over Australia in the quarter final. At the time of his 'betrayal', the club shop was selling Wasps number ten shirts with his embroidered signature on the collar and framed photographs of 'That Kick'. I don't know how well they sold.

 
Re: Mutterings from a Lifelong Wasp - The Game Goes Pro (2)
waspymatt (IP Logged)
22/04/2012 11:18
I got one of those shirts....dont think I kept it for long!!!

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