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Wheeling and dealing

Luke Fielden
By Leipziger
June 22 2010
The reported signing of Bristol flanker Redford Pennycook (there’s a name I will struggle to remember until the season starts) looks set to conclude our Falcons’ transfer dealings this summer.

The lists of ins and outs are as follows:

In

Luke Eves (Bristol)

Luke Fielden (Bedford)

James Fitzpatrick (Blaydon)

Joe Graham (Tynedale)

Jamie Hall (Coventry)

Ally Hogg (Edinburgh)

Jeremy Manning (Munster)

Redford Pennycook (Bristol)

Tim Ryan (Toulon)

Glen Townson (Doncaster)

Mark Wilson (Blaydon) 

Out

Adam Balding (Worcester)

Tom Biggs (Bath)

Pete Browne (Harlequins)

Spencer Davey

Carl Hayman (Toulon)

Chris Micklewood

Rob Miller (Sale)

Laurence Ovens

Mark Sorenson (Northampton)

Alex Walker We have lost a lot of experience including two undisputed top-drawer players in Hayman and Zorro, as well as Balding whose body never quite kept up with his heart at KP.  Then there is Biggs who undoubtedly has talent but couldn’t fit into Steve Bates’s gameplan, and a solid back-up player in Ovens.  Davey and Walker will not be missed by many fans, and it will be interesting to see how Browne and Miller get on at their new clubs as they certainly have a lot of potential. 

Of those coming in, I confess that I don’t know a great deal about many of them.  Ally Hogg is of course a 48-time Scottish international and will add some real quality to our back row if he recovers well from the hip surgery that ruled him out of the second half of last season.  Still only 27, he could be a very shrewd signing by Alan Tait. 

Of the others, Mark Wilson is probably one of the best-known to Falcons fans after three LW Friendly Cup appearances for the first team last season, which included a harsh yellow card at Worcester.  Luke Fielden returns to the club having been an impressive Sevens player and performing well for Bedford in the Championship.  A utility back with a fair bit of pace, he should fit in well alongside the likes of Charlie Amesbury and Danny Williams. 

Tim Ryan and Jeremy Manning both have European experience with Munster and, in the case of Ryan, Toulon for whom he turned out in the Amlin Cup Final.  Ryan will likely take Carl Hayman’s place in our front row, although it would be unfair to make comparisons as Hayman is all but irreplaceable.  Manning comes with a decent reputation and will provide back-up for his countryman Jimmy Gopperth at fly-half.  Manning is likely to be a key signing as we avoid the risk of going into the season with only young Tom Catterick as an option at 10 besides Gopperth. 

Bristol pair Luke Eves and Redford Pennycook both have strong reputations with our friends in the south-west, and though Eves’s arrival had been rumoured, Pennycook has come as something of a shock.  Rob Andrew once said that French players don’t settle in the UK and one might suspect Falcons coaches have thought the same about out-and-out opensides, but now we have one and though he will not be a Richie McCaw straight away or more likely ever, I am looking forward to seeing him play. 

Joe Graham, James Fitzpatrick and Jamie Hall make the step up from the lower leagues and too much should probably not be expected from these guys too soon, while little is known about former Sale lock Glen Townson, though initial reports suggest he performed well for Doncaster last season. 

Overall, if you consider that Wilson played for the first team last season, numerically our squad is the same.  There would seem to be a drop in overall quality and certainly experience though, which is something Tait will have to deal with as he tries to mould the squad into a team. 

However, the reality is that we are where we are and we have to be looking at potential more than seasoned internationals, of which we have signed only one.  From what I know and what I’ve read, I don’t think it’s been a bad summer’s business.

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Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: FalconsRugby.org.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 12:57

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Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: bunch of flankers (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 15:20

A fairly honest resume of comings and goings however you have not mentioned the three signings that Im sure will make a big difference next season, Tait Morriarty and Arnie.... Cant wait for the season to start

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: pityacker (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 16:38

Totally agree with the comment re a drop in quality as I have stated several times.All round pretty disappointed with the standard of recruitment and its certainly not going to get people rushing out to buy season tickets.Only hope I am proved wrong and some of these guys really stand up and make the step up into the fierce and unrelenting Premiership.We will all know long before this time next year.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: TouchLine (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 17:05

The step change in quality is the coaching changes,
Bates & Grimes replaced by Tait, Moriarty and Arnie.

Hopefully that will be enough to make up for what on paper is a vastly inferior and unproven starting squad.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: Monkey1 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 17:53

Agreed TL. I am pretty confident that the vast improvement in coaching will make a decent core team out of the squad. I don't expect them to challenge for HC, next season is all about getting a decent team ready to go up the next step. Anybody who expects more than that is away with the fairies.

Next stage of course, assuming that the coaching gets us the core team, is to bring in some quality players & hang onto the core team. The backbone of the team will come from the majority of players from last season, most of whom only have a year left on their contracts. In less than a year from now, if Tait, Moriarty & Arnie have made quality players out of our raw material, other clubs will be waving money at them.

If the club has ambitions to be truly competitive in the top half of the table in 2011/12, they will have to have a bigger budget by then to retain & recruit the right quality of players.

Maybe we need a 5 year plan.
(Sm159)

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: TouchLine (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 18:20

I'd settle for a 3 year plan which included finding a new owner with enough dosh to finance us at the level you suggest. It won't happen as long as Thumper is holding the purse strings.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: Running Rugby (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 21:57

I don't mind the signings we've made this season.
Reason being, that I think we have the players here already that on paper should form a decent side.
We all know that the coaching of Steve Bates last season let us down dramatically, with the constant kicking and misuse of players.
Now that we have Alan Tait and a skilled assistant in Moriaty, then I have every confidence that they will get the best out of this side.

The addition of Ally Hogg is a big one for me, as we were lacking in the number 8 position last year and if Hogg stays fit he will be a force next season.

Tim Ryan is no Carl Hayman, but is a solid scrummager and is also very good in the loose, which Hayman wasn't so good at (Tait even said this when the signing of Ryan was announced).

Eves is a good centre and will provide much needed competition at 12 for Tane Tu'ipulotu, and cover for 13.

From the little that I’ve seen of Manning he will also provide some good competition for JG.

I can't say that I had heard of, or have seen Pennycook play, but the Bristol fans are gutted that he is leaving so that must be a good sign.

And then there is the young and hungry talent of Luke Fielden, James Fitzpatrick, Joe Graham, Jamie Hall, Glen Townson and Mark Wilson, who all show potential that can be brought out by Tait/Moriaty.

So all in all I am quite happy with our squad for next season.......if this is indeed the end of the recruitment drive.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: lizard118 (IP Logged)
Date: 22/06/2010 23:55

I'm not overly excited about our purchases as one or two have commented, seeing as we've not signed any proven performers bar one(Hogg) and lets hope he can get back to his best.

Having said that I'm still looking forward to seeing how this new team comes together. I believe Jimmy Gopperth will be better for last season's experience, and look forward to seeing how the new players slot in, especially the ones from the lower leagues.

We've had very good experienced players in the recent past but I cant see where that has gotten us apart from fighting relegation season after season(admittedly mostly down to coaching). I'm sure this team cannot do any worse, especially with the right coaching and gameplan.

I live in Bristol and if rumours about Redford are true, then we've got ourselves potentially an international standard 7, with the right coaching. This chap is the business and will mix it with the best of them.He's abrasive, gets around the park and good at the break-down-He might just turn out to be what we've been missing at number 7 since Andy Mower at his best. Bristol fans are not happy about him leaving that's for sure and that speaks volumes about his ability.

If this coaching team's hunger is matched by the players, I'm not too bothered that most are from the lower leagues to be honest provided we have a platform up-front.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: Monkey1 (IP Logged)
Date: 23/06/2010 06:48

Quote:
lizard118
If this coaching team's hunger is matched by the players....

I think that sums it up perfectly. The previous attitude of stay calm & carry on was the biggest impediment to winning games. With that gone & a lot of hunger for victory thrown in we should see a big improvement on last season, and that is all I want for next season.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: lizard118 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 11:25

Cheers Monkey and I hope we can move on now and look forward.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: steve1888 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 11:53

Interestingly according to a thread on Bath ERE on GP transfers we have reduced our squad size less than anyone else currently in the GP and would imagine not that many more moves will happen now.

BATH ERE THREAD

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Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: DGNTR (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 12:04

Quality is more important than quantity, though it also helps to have a decent sized squad, which we do seem to have for next season.

I've said it before we were extremely fortunate with injuries last season, that helped us hugely, we shouldn't be relying on the same amount of good luck on that front for next season. I think we are definitely sailing close to the wind with our squad of backs, forwards well catered for though.

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: steve1888 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 12:15

To be fair I think they've been much more selective over the local and lower league players brought in and only heard good words about any of them. Maybe one more back would do it but think we have enough as they are versatile too?

Options ...

FB's A Tait, Fielden , Catterick, Amesbury, Manning,
Wings - Williams, Bobo, Amesbury, Fielden, Vickerman
Centre - Eves, Tulip, Fitzpatrick, Bobo, M Tait, Manning, A Tait, Vickerman
10's - Gopperth, Catterick, Manning

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Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: TouchLine (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 14:18

Quote:
we have reduced our squad size less than anyone else currently in the G

Depends on your starting point though, wasn't ours one of the smallest last season?

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: steve1888 (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 14:26

Doesnt - we have reduced ours by 1 player others have reduced by more therefore we have reduced ours less.

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Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: TouchLine (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 14:34

No comment on the nit picker

Re: Wheeling and dealing
Posted by: DGNTR (IP Logged)
Date: 24/06/2010 16:52

Eh?

Surely the nit picking was with this comment

"Depends on your starting point though"

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