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Ple'ma'n vorladron? Tre!

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By Tony Jenkins aka "PorthosTyke"
November 18 2008
On Saturday, the Tykes made the long journey to Camborne for a game that many considered could be a banana skin. And it is very nearly my duty to report to you on a skin well and truly slipped up on. But not quite. The Tykes trod on the skin, but stayed standing. if you just want to know about the game, just scroll down a few paragraphs. If you want to know about the full experience, read on ...

When you take down your map to plan the trip, the first thing you notice is that Camborne is a long way away. You probably never realised just how much England there is in that knobbly bit down there. Trust me, it's a long way. And that is why at 5:45AM on a November Saturday I am heading down the M1. DartagnanTyke and AramisTyke have gone on ahead the previous evening, so the plan is to rendezvous and head on together.

We meet at 8:00 and it becomes apparent that AramisTyke has been in the wars. A beer-related altercation with a tree has created a large gash in his head and he is sporting a splendid bandage. He looks like a casualty from the Somme, but he is insisting he is carrying on to Camborne. DartagnanTyke, who has been looking forward to this for months, is encouraging him. We stick the wounded in the back of the car and set off.

The M5 is long, but we are surprised at how quickly we fetch up in
Cornwall. We pause for an early cream tea, and the way in which AramisTyke gets outside it suggests that he is recovering (he later manages to sneakily abandon his bandage). Penzance is reached soon after 1:00, and we dump bags and head down to the Mennaye, where Mounts Bay are playing Southend.

The MuskeTykes like a proper rugby club, and this is just that. The Mennaye was once the home ground of Penzance and Newlyn who (this is where it gets complicated) are now playing in Camborne. Their Second XV was transformed into a league club to help them find fixtures and, as Mounts Bay, climbed up the leagues to National 2. The relationship between the clubs seems a little strained, with the majority of Bay supporters telling us that they
hoped Leeds would "stuff 'em" up at Camborne.

DartagnanTyke is a closet Southend fan, so he becomes their vocal support, expect for breaks for beer and pasties. AramisTyke and I help support Bay. After a good start, Southend find themselves on the wrong end of a bit of a hammering, helped by the referee's enthusiasm for penalty tries. The beer and pasties are excellent, and the locals are friendly in the club-house. A good start to the weekend.

Sunday started warm and sunny, which we hope bodes well for the afternoon. A leisurely stroll along the sea front takes us to the station, where we are sold tickets to Camborne without having to state our destination. One coach on the train is already half full of Tykes followers, so we join them for the short trip up the line. We learn that our colleagues have been spending the last two days perfecting their pub crawl around Penzance; their plan is to do it again this evening, but get it right this time.

At Camborne, we undertake the long walk to the Railway for a glass of beer or twp. A Welsh chap in a Tykes top arrives shortly after 12, and receives a good round of applause. Apparently this trip is only four miles longer than his normal trip to a home game. There's devotion.

Beers are drunk until about 1:00, when it is time to walk to the ground. Once inside, beers are got from the strategically positioned huts, and we assist the Tykes kicking practice. Everyone seems present, with Blackett and Buckers also warming up, presumably in case of injuries.

If you were just wanting the match report, START PAYING ATTENTION NOW!

Camborne has sprouted a new stand since our last visit, so the mass of travelling Tykes ended up in a corner. The pre-match entertainment included a band in kilts, a good deal of singing about Trelawny and a mascot that did not frighten the children. Good stuff.

The Tykes started as announced, attacking the end where we were stationed. I missed the first try because, taking my duties seriously, I was trying to work out how to start my stopwatch. DartagnanTyke tells me that the Cornish kicked off, Country caught the ball above his head, and ran up the other end and scored. It was 9 seconds on my watch. The Good Doctor converted, and
it's 7-0 with a minute played.

Cornish kicked off again, Leeds gathered the ball and spun it wide to the right. Quick recycling saw Sparky go over. The Good Doctor missed the kick, but it was still 12-0 after three minutes.

Then it all went wrong. Cornish kicked off and the Tykes managed to lose possession. As soon as Cornish drove forward and were tackled, the Tykes were penalised, clearly to their bemusement. A second penalty was kickable, and led to Rawlo listening to a clear warning. Jones kicked the kick, and it was 12-3.

The referee had found his whistle by now, and on 13 minutes a clearly baffled Wine Gum was on his way to the bin. It was kickable again, 12-6. The penalties kept coming, but mostly out of kicking range. On 20 minutes, even Leeds were awarded one, but the kick was missed. The 23rd minute saw another one for Cornish to make it 12-9, and another on 26 made matters level at 12-12.The last saw Vicks head to the bin, just as Wine Gum had emerged.  A certain amount of ironic cheering from the Tykes fans greeted a
Leeds penalty on 31, which the Good Doctor slotted to get things to 15-13.

I missed the second try, because I was in the pasty queue. DartagnanTyke tells me that Fosi made a break on the Leeds 22, Shrek took it on, and some good work put Biggsy in at the corner. The Good Doctor kicked the goal to make it 22-12.

The referee felt that another penalty was needed before the half time break, though, and he duly obliged in the 42nd minute when HP was pinged for not rolling away with six Cornishmen sat on his legs. 22-15.

22-15 at the half and, given the penalty count (Tykes 2, Cornish well more than 2) the Tykes supporters were pleased. Strong words were most probably said in the Tykes dressing room.

Leeds started the second half brightly, getting a kickable penalty on three minutes, which the Good Doctor popped over to bring us to 25-15. Little did we think that this would be the Tykes' last score!

A consistent flow of penalties kept Cornish supplied with chances to threaten the Leeds line for the next 15 minutes. This kept the play down at our end, but by now we would much rather have been peering into the Camborne gloom at the far end. A kick on 14 minutes was missed, the next on 21 was kicked to the corner. This was Cornish as we remember them, with a rolling maul (remember those?) driving their hooker over. The kick was missed, something that was to prove crucial. 25-20.

The Cornishmen now clearly thought that they could win this, but the Tykes had other ideas. The next 20 minutes saw some simply awesome defence, with only the occasional trip into the Cornish half. By now, the Tykes had clearly worked out what the referee wanted to see and, while the penalties still came, they were getting rarer. On 30 minutes, Leeds managed an attack, but
a knock-on in a good position put an end to the respite.

The 34th minute saw the Cornish get another penalty but, rather than kicking, they went for the corner. Rhys Jones, their stand-off, seemed to have taken a bit of a bang, and possibly was not confident. The Tykes held firm with more awesome defence, until the referee decided a penalty was required. This was in front, so on 38 minutes it was 25-22.

The next ten minutes were very long minutes. Leeds managed to get the kick off to the other end, but Cornish were not long in getting back to the Leeds 22. More epic defence was shown, with amazing discipline not to concede the penalty that would have given Cornish the game.

On 48 minutes (I am guessing my watch does not work properly, where all this injury time came from is a mystery), the Tykes managed to get the ball off the field on half way. There were bodies all over the place. The ball went loose after the throw in and, on 50 minutes 23 seconds by my watch, the referee decided enough was enough. A 25-22 win.

This was a simply epic game in terms of intensity and emotion. Not one for the rugby purist, maybe, but nothing at all missing in terms of excitement. The beer and pasties were good too.

What do we take from this? The Cornish are a good side, and any win on their patch is a good win. The penalty count is a clear concern; the referee saw something that all the other referees Leeds have had this season did not. Key and Backy must do some serious video watching to find out what was going
wrong. The upsides were the defence, awesome at times, and clear signs of a fantastic team spirit. At the end, we in the Tykes enclave were proud of the team.

If you only wanted to know about the match, LOOK AWAY NOW ...

The Cornish can do post-match entertainment too. The singing from their beer tent defies description and embodies the immense pride these folk clearly feel in their team and their county. That and the beer and the pasties.

We needed to calm down, so we got some beer and stood around outside the tent. Cornish folk came up to us, shook hands, chatted about the game, and wished us a good trip back.  Excellent people.

Lurking where we were, we were also able to see the Tykes players heading off. A quick exit was planned to get back to Leeds that evening, but every one of them was prepared to stop and chat (something that would cost a tenner at Headingley!). There was clearly some bemusement with the referee, and a general sense that we had got out of jail. A special mention must go to Tommy and Vicks, both of whom must have been battered and knackered, but both of whom were prepared to chat for a good five minutes. Vicks has a scratched cornea after Esher, by the way, but is fine; he said he should have passed, we agreed. Fosi went past twice, and is a gent.

Our departure was delayed slightly by the news that the remaining pasties were now a quid each (Headingley Marketing - you were there, right?). Then back to the Railway, and on "home" to Penzance for a bit more beer. It would be rude not too. The night ended in the Alexandra next to the Mennaye with a small group of Cornish fans. Hope we'll see them again soon.



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18 Nov, 2008 22:21 Report
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Haste ye back....

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18 Nov, 2008 23:24 Report
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Re the penalty count - We know how you feel. We'd had this ref before and Pirates were 'pinged' consistently over their first four or five games by him and other referees which probably cost us the games against Exeter and Notts either by points kicked against us or by losing good field position when attacking.

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Nice report, well done. I am always curious as to why di Bernardo is referred to as the 'Good Doctor'. There have been times, especially last season, where 'good' would not be the first word that would come into your head when describing him.

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Good One, PT!

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Get a decent 12 back in the side and we'll see what happens. That's my opinion anyway.

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Good review PT, cheers!

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I'm still seething! I just read this online:

Some numpty in the Cornish Press

Hopefully you can see my response in the readers comment at the bottom. If not, I'll post it up....

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Great report, thanks PT,

Glad to hear your enjoyed your trip and managed to get in a bit of extra rugby!
It would appear watching the game was as nerve-wracking as listening to it on the radio...

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looking forward to more winning rugby, Cheering the Lads...
...and maybe a spot of watching the Still - as we're obviously stuck with it!!

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APB,

your post arrived whilst I was dithering with mine above.

I have just read the report you refer to and was able to read your response. I agree whole-heartedly with your thread, articulation and commenable balance in the face of some uneccessary and uncalled for accusations! Well put, sir!

Luckily, judging by some of the Pirates supporters that have ventured onto this Board, it is obvious that - even though a good pirate wears an eye-patch - they are not all as one-eyed as the fellow who wrote the article!

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I'm as annoyed as you Andy. Whilst we're at the top we can expect more of this, it comes with the territory. That said we did win a close game, the players gave their all, we are still top and at this moment in time we are the team everyone wants to beat.

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Seething is good. Perhaps we all ought to seethe in sympathy with apb.

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Let's hope that we ALWAYS accept defeat in good grace, whatever the circumstances.

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great report, portos. nice to get the feel of the whole experience as well as the match.

and well said, andy. it's disappointing that the excellent rivalry we enjoyed with pirates two years ago has been tarnished by the bitterness of a few halfwits. but i look forward to the rematch here when the travelling pirate support will enjoy our usual welcoming, friendly hospitality - the perfect way to reply to such accusations (and, of course, hopefully taking a bonus point win from the field too). smiling smiley

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I've added a comment too.

Andy, you're damn right to be seething. This is a very poor journalistic effort from Cornwall.

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Woah, hang on. I think you will find this is from the Pirates Eye View, which is a shamelessly one eyed view of the match, that appears in the weekly round up, its not meant to be a serious match report.

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It appears to be a reasonably serious report to me. Failing that the author is a rather poor comedian.

Perhaps the referee can be asked to explain to both sets of fans his interpretation of the laws at the breakdown and then this can be applied to the video to see if in actual fact the percieved offences actually infringed said laws.

There are referees that read these boards so here is the challenge. Someone speak to the ref in question and ask him to come on here or the pirates board and explain himself. If he is right nothing to be feared. I bet he won't come anywhere near.

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Good report and a good win.

What happened to the Pieman ?

Refs aren't perfect then - well I never.

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Apb...

Congratulations on your riposte...

I tell you what... I’ve got a mate who works on the Daily Mail. Your sort of writing’s just what they’re looking for... I’ll give him a call on your behalf.......

I know !

Why don’t you set up a little league on your own... ? You know just for Yorkshire clubs.... All nice and professional. None of this old traditional "corinthian spirit" malarky.... just how you like it

There’s this great hotel I’ve heard of in Huddersfield... I think it’s called “The George”. Maybe you could call a meeting there.....

Or has that been done before....????

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now there's an idea, the other lot did it and now they're world champions. winking smiley

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Can someone remind me please who the arrogant ones are?

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Why do you always have to bring The Australians into this?


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Apb....

Confucius say " Sitting down is hard when the skin on your bum is made of rice paper and your sense of humour has been bypassed"

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Merry....

Yes I know !!!!!

Tell me ? Is that kind of similar to American Football where the Superbowl Champion is called "World Champion". It's the same in Baseball with the winner of the "World (?) Series I think

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something like that, cap'n. it's good competition for us though, and shows what a professional attitude can achieve. give it a few years and that'll be us holding the heineken cup.

yes, i know. but no-one gave us a prayer in the powergen cup either, but we did it, and we'll do it again. (you don't think that's arrogant, do you?)



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Now hang on ! Let me get my brain in gear here....

Did you win the Powergen before you fell into the pit of vipers that is Nat 1 or were you simply hanging off the skyscraper that is the GP ( or whatever they called it at the time... I forget now!) just prior to falling off...

My sadly deceased Granny always used to remind me that "pride comes before a fall"

As for getting your hands on the Heineken Cup I didn't even know that Munster were doing stadium tours at the newly revamped Thomand Park ! I'd grab a "Ryanair " from LBA as soon as you can !

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you're a charming fella, cap'n, i don't care what they say.

but yes we got relegated soon after that win and have been rebuilding for the last three years. losing virtually your whole squad tends to have that effect, you know.

anyway, what we have here i'd call positive mental attitude (though fan thinks i'm just a blind optimist) which is necessary to move forward, rather than the 'pride before a fall' thing to allude to.

tbh, i'd rather have that positive attitude, and be accused of arrogance, than sit around moaning all the time. i'm beginning to get the impression you rather like moaning. of course, i could be mistaken. smiling smiley

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Actually I'm not a big moaner to be fair, but I do like to take a large needle and "burst" the "bubble of pomposity" whenever I see it. ( I was going to use another word beginning with "p" but Sportsnetwork have edited it out !)

I've just had a quick look at the threads relating to last Sunday and some of the comments on both sides seemed to be pretty " stiff stuff". Frankly I'd rather talk rugby and "take the mick a bit"

Which reminds me.... "Positive Mental Attitude" Wasn't that the creed espoused by one Linford Christie at one point. Didn't be find himself suspected of " the use of pharmaceuticals" ( shall we say !)

Careful of your role models Merry and make sure that the players keep away from the LS7 district !

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APB, is it ok if I call this guy an idiot and you won't ban me?

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Fine ! FOR 2008.

But I appear to be an idiot with a rather large fishing rod and the bass appear to be biting.

Are you still out there Merry? FOR 2008's trying to muscle in !

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We were not always poor in the GP in our 2nd year we did turn a lot of heads and finished 5th, with only 2 name players in the squad

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The London Irish MB has a quote of the day. Today's is particularly apt Merry:

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"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort." - Herm Albright

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Careful of your role models Merry and make sure that the players keep away from the LS7 district !
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Captain it is LS11 now ( not that I would ever visit that part of the city)

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Thanks for the update Wild Willie.........

I'll take what you say on the basis that you watch from a distance.

I lived in Chapel Allerton for 18 years and so remember them closing and then bulldozing the "Hayfield" in Chapeltown I also went in the "Fforde Greene" once. That was one of the more terrifying experiences of my life....

Having said that I also lived on the edge of Halton Moor for a year and that was pretty scary too at times !

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Careful of your role models Merry and make sure that the players keep away from the LS7 district !
"May the road rise with you"
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Captain it is LS11 now ( not that I would ever visit that part of the city)

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not fair, I live in Ls11 and parts are ok not great but not bad. I would say LS9 is a a lot worse as are parts of LS8 from Roundhay road down

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The Fforde Greene is now, I quote, an 'international supermarket' so is now safe to go inside. The unusual herbs you walk out with now are very different to former days.

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