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Rugby 7's - Good or Bad?


ex-England 7's captain

By Almo
July 27 2018

I am often perplexed over the relationship between rugby 7-a-side and the full game.

Did anyone notice that England 7’s lost to New Zealand in the World Cup Final last Sunday? Or that England female 7’s won the Challenge Cup by beating Japan the same weekend? Me neither.

Yet somewhat bizarrely, rugby 7’s is now an Olympic sport and gets greater funding than the true game on the female side. Due to this, the rfu discontinued professional contracts for the England 15’s women who lost bravely to New Zealand in the 2017 World Cup final, using the money to pay 7-a-side players, which is hard luck to props and hookers. Yet in the recently-completed 7’s World Cup in San Francisco, England female 7’s were eliminated in their first match. They went on to win the “Plate”, called the Challenge Cup, which effectively puts them 9th in the world.

At Carnegie we have had the Men’s England 7’s captain play for us, and with all due respect for Rob Vickerman, on his return he did not exactly pull up trees at Championship level. This would suggest that the 15-a-side game has the greater quality in the male domain. Yet, come an Olympic year, in theory players who cannot get into a Premiership team could have a gold medal and the postbox in their street painted gold!

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Rugby 7's - Good or Bad?
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27/07/2018 09:43
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JDH (IP Logged)
27/07/2018 11:39
It's a different game. I have been the twickenham 7s a few times and it's a great watch. Very few players do both 7s and the full game to the highest level.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
27/07/2018 11:49
Different sport entirely now, looking at the 1st world cup for 7's dallaligio, Dawson, Rodber would never happen now, Carling getting held up over the line etc at Middlesex 7'S was a great season opener back in the day,

Have enjoyed my trips to HQ for the middlesex 7's bit of banter between fans at a BBQ in car park and more often than not being joined by players for a beer or 2 afterwards, good times

But complete change now world series has some top guys who have devastating pace and power and is run with some big sponsorship worldwide but in the xv a side sport most guys would struggle and visa versa,

Alex Gray was to me the most exciting signing we had a couple of seasons ago and while the NFL was beckoning watching the you tube clips etc i thought we had signed the missing piece to our devastating back line, might have been the odd injury but didn't really do it for me in the YC shirt,



have been to Emirates 7's and recommend it for a coach trip and beers not a patch on the old days though but then again what is?



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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
27/07/2018 16:21
Clearly the 7's has been a bad thing for the womens' game. For the men it is an irrelevance. A nice day out but no real influence on the top flight 15 a side game.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
28/07/2018 11:38
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For the men it is an irrelevance. A nice day out but no real influence on the top flight 15 a side game.

What about in developing countries? Resources "diverted" to the 7's game could detract from growing the full game?

 
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Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
28/07/2018 18:21
Yes it could be seen as a detracting influence but then again sevens give some countries with no chance for a considerable time at fifteens, to progress and gain some rugby headlines ie Kenya, Spain, Portugal!

 
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Madtyke (IP Logged)
29/07/2018 09:08
I watched the final of the Prem 7s at Saints yesterday on Tv. Saracens beat Wasps but i recognised none of the players who all appeared to be Academy players.

7s used to be either an end of season warm down or a pre-season warm up. Having once organised a pre-season U16 10s comp I remember the hoops I had to jump through with the RFU in order for the comp to be covered by the infamous non-insurance the RFU gave to clubs.

Used to as an open side flanker love 7s but 10s gives the pack a game as well.

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Competitive Dad (IP Logged)
31/07/2018 07:28
It's a really bad thing as it highlights how attractive the game would be with less players on the pitch.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
01/08/2018 07:40
The rfu has obviously read this thread and is acting:

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JDH (IP Logged)
01/08/2018 09:29
Don't they read all the threads?

 
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05/08/2018 19:40
More stuff on this topic:

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