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Ring a Ring of Roses


By WPL
July 12 2019

In my last article I mentioned the monthly debate of ring fencing, I say monthly I think it depends who is close to the bottom of the premiership as to how much it gets mentioned.

To me it’s only formalising what exists anyway, look at how many teams are in a position to go up with the ground regulations (let’s park money for now) – us, Newcastle, Pirates soon with their new stadium…but who else, Doncaster I think would need more, Nottingham if they moved back to the county ground, Coventry & Ealing with work – Bedford have pretty much admitted they would have to move…your pitch needs to be level and theirs has a 6 foot slope…

So before you have invested in your team, the majority are spending a fortune on facilities, chicken and egg springs to mind… do you invest in the facilities at the detriment to the team and therefore come down or not be able to go up in the 1st place…where’s that investor with deep pockets and longer arms!

So what are the options?

  1. Permanently ring fence – 13 teams (or maybe 14 if they can find one!). This will be great for player development, DoR not afraid to throw youngsters in….rubbish, the value of getting to the top table of European rugby will stop that. And where is the excitement coming from at the end of the season. Where’s the incentive for championship teams – bad idea

  2. Close the door for 3 years – slightly better but not much, to me it just says stagnate for 2 years and then go mad in the 3rd year

  3. Playoff between top and bottom team – maybe and possibly the least painful option, if your good enough then you’ll go up if you’re not then at least you’ve had your chance. This couldn’t be a 2-leg affair though, that would weight too much in the premiership favour, one leg at either a neutral ground or the championship team

  4. Leave as is – personally the most desirable, but relax the ground restrictions – give everyone a fair chance to build a strong team and then be rewarded.

For any of the last 2 to work the key has to be investment - but where from? PRL aren’t going to be forthcoming, why would turkeys vote for Christmas! RFU – they are shedding jobs all over the place trying to balance the books. Could we get some CVC money and let them control the top 2 divisions? Though this will just shift the problem on.

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12/07/2019 09:29
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
12/07/2019 13:06
Nice piece WPL.
One comment I would make is that Pirates stadium has not commenced yet, and even when the first phase build is complete it will not meet Premiership standards, requiring an additional £10 million plus upgrade.

 
leeds_shark
Re: Ring a Ring of Roses
WPL (IP Logged)
12/07/2019 13:40
Fair point almost - I would group them with Doncaster then, potential if (more) money is spent

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
12/07/2019 21:55
"Close the door for 3 years Ė slightly better but not much, to me it just says stagnate for 2 years and then go mad in the 3rd year."

That was the Carnegie plan 2 years ago, and it has backfired spectacularly. Some of us saw it coming, but our opinions didn't matter,we were just being negative. A complete shambles.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
13/07/2019 17:52
The one option I cannot see is to go to 14 clubs in the Premiership. The rfu wants the Premiership to create and maintain successful international players, but if we look at the Top14 in France, their 14 team top tier does the opposite. It is a slog, players are made available for the 6 Nations a week after the other countries, and it is a major factor on why France punches below its weight at international level.
I know that the cup competition could be reduced/eliminated to help reduce the number of matches played, but in reality only squad-players (not internationals) currently play in the cup competition.

 
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Re: Ring a Ring of Roses
19/07/2019 19:52
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Haxbytyke
"Close the door for 3 years Ė slightly better but not much, to me it just says stagnate for 2 years and then go mad in the 3rd year."
That was the Carnegie plan 2 years ago, and it has backfired spectacularly. Some of us saw it coming, but our opinions didn't matter,we were just being negative. A complete shambles.
Couldnít agree more there, I was definitely part of the negative crew way back in the 5 year plan or however long it was for.

However this idea of ring fencing only seems to come around when a top team is heading for possible failure was really talked about this time because of the Leicester situation, unfortunately I think it will happen but only once the RFU are satisfied with the clubs it has in the Premiership, I hope Iím wrong but maybe they are wanting a team like Pirates to come up and Worcester to drop? Anyway however you look at it Leeds definitely isnít in the plan to be a Premiership side not for a long while at least

Some say he has a Tykes flag with team signatures on.
Others say that he's doing the same to the Carnegie flag,
All we know is that he's called Leeds carnegie signed flag.

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