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By P G Tips
May 16 2017

The playoffs are upon us and English rugby’s focus over the next two weeks will be on the scrap for the title. Once again, Bath sit this one out and watch from the side-lines. As in 2014, Bath came close to qualifying after a promising start to the season, and having beaten three of the four semi finalists, will be able to view the final two fixtures as a yardstick to aim for next season. For the fans, there is no other top class rugby until the Lions first fixture, so how do we expect the semi finalists to fare – and who do we hope will succeed?    

Semi Final One – Exeter Chiefs v Saracens

 

Exeter will be many neutrals favoured team in these rounds. Their story is romantic, in going from promotion to their second successive playoff in 7 seasons, and their all-action style is appealing to the eye. They have added the pragmatism of the rolling maul and miserly defence in the last two campaigns to the multi –layered, multi-phased attacks on which they built their rise up the table. Rob Baxter has added alternative options to this distinctive style- they are quite capable of a devastating kick-chase game, or –as against Northampton, dominating possession and territory by keeping the ball in hand through direct driving forward play and charges by the midfield. They may boast few “superstars” but a wealth of hard carrying forwards and some of the tournament’s trickiest backs (Nowell, Slade, Woodburn) should ensure they will take some beating at Sandy Park. Rob Baxter, admirable coach and one club man has rightly won plaudits from commentators and fellow coaches. Who would begrudge him the reward of a trophy?

A single snapshot from last week’s televised European Champions final sums up many people’s view of Saracens – and it was not on the pitch. There were astonishing scenes at Clermont’s Place de Jaude, where fans stood hundreds deep to watch the match on the big screen. That sense of community tradition is in contrast to the accusation that Saracens, recent wanderers and representing no specific area of London, are a manufactured team. That view though is as harsh as it is becoming outdated. There is a real sense of togetherness in almost everything Saracens do – in the squad and in community engagement. Their joy as a group in winning the cup was evident, as is their intention to repeat the feat on the domestic scene. Also outdated is the “boring” tag. Yes, they are pragmatic, ruthlessly efficient and built on defence, but two of their three tries in the European Final were things of rugby beauty. Saracens have built, bonded and branded well and their togetherness is founded on real skill and steel –on and off the pitch. They may well provide the next Ireland coach and who would wager against them having six Test Lions by mid July? Exeter may have home advantage and a delightful bag-of-tricks game, but Saracens will be an awesome obstacle to overcome.

 

Verdict:
The head says Saracens, the heart Exeter. Exeter will have something special up their sleeve no doubt, but so will the men from Allianz Park. Too close to call.

 

Semi Final Two: Wasps v Leicester Tigers

 

Table toppers on the basis of most wins, Wasps must be favourites for this one, if not the title itself. However, the tie is given extra spice by their “usurping” of Tigers’ status as top team of the Midlands. This is also the match which Leicester supporters believe the most winnable of the three options. Wasps can boast the Premiership’s top points scorer-Jimmy Gopperth, top try scorer and beater of defenders – Christian Wade and two of the three heading the try-assist statistics: Robson and Cipriani. They also have the best try scoring record in the league: their 89 being 3 more even than Exeter. Yet, they are also the most porous in defence of the four semi finalists, conceding a troubling 61 Premiership tries. Their forwards, sharp and aggressive on the carry, at the lineout and in the breakdown, are not the most dominant of scrummagers, so Tigers will hope to exploit that phase, especially if the weather is wet as seems likely. In Haskell and Launchbury they have two of England’s leading forwards, fired with motivation, having been omitted from the Lions squad, to prove former Wasps coach Gatland wrong, so Wasps will be hoping for dry conditions.

 

Tigers have their own luminaries: Brendan O’Connor claims the most Premiership turnovers, while Freddie Burns boasts a better goal kicking record than the players preferred to him at 10 for England. As for motivation – the Youngs brothers will have immense emotional drive from the tragedy affecting Tom’s wife and Ben’s sacrifice of a Lions place to support his sibling. Leicester’s appearance among the playoff teams is a tribute to their enduring fight and drive. Theirs has been a mixed season, with three coaches fired and some evident confusion over preferred playing style. Matt O’Connor has promised to restore the old Leicester virtues: a fearsome pack, territorial dominance, a controlling kicking game. To do so he must first sort out their discipline: Tigers have conceded more yellow cards than any team this campaign. Self-control will be an important factor if the forward battle becomes tight. They have the strike force in Veainu, Petersen and Mermoz, but can they depend on their traditional edge up front?

 

 

Verdict:
Four wins from the last five will give Tigers plenty of confidence, but Wasps, buoyed by victory two weeks ago against Saracens, and with the ability to strike in a variety of ways, from anywhere on the pitch, should have too much for them.

 

Preference:
So, who do we want to be crowned Champions of England? I won’t claim to speak for our readers, so I will give my view. It would be great to see Freddie Burns put in a man of The Match performance. Wasps are at times the most daring and dazzling on the counter attack. Saracens are simply admirable and deserving. For me though, it would be delightful to see the West Country represented at Twickenham for the third year in a row. For Rob Baxter and their style of play, I am hoping Exeter will triumph.

 

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Awp24975
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16/05/2017 18:27
Excellent write up..... Im off to Twickenham for the final at the end of the month and hoping it is Wasps v Saracens, with Saracens going on to complete the double.

 
Bathovalballer
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16/05/2017 19:00
I am off to HQ for the final and am convinced, if the Chiefs can overcome Sarries, and its a big if following on from their display against the excellent Clermont, they will beat Wasps or Leicester in the final.

The ref for Saturday's game at Sandy Park will have to be strong to stop Sarries ball slowing, maul pulling down and blocking and shirt grabbing, plus putting the more vociferous Saracen's players in their place like Nigel Owens did last week.

Just read its Wayne Barnes which should be good for the Chiefs and the other game has Carley! Poor sods.

 
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17/05/2017 07:49
Couldn't stomach Exeter or Coventry winning the PL so will be supporting Sarries.

Chris Cook - Adopted player 2016/17

 
P G Tips
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19/05/2017 16:23
Teams:

1. Exeter v Saracens:
Exeter: Dollman; Nowell, Whitten, Devoto, Short; Steenson (capt), Townsend; Moon, Cowan-Dickie, Williams, Dennis, Parling, Horstmann, Armand, Waldrom.
Replacements: Yeandle, Rimmer, Francis, Lees, S Simmonds, Chudley, Slade, Campagnaro.

Saracens: Goode; Ashton, Bosch, Taylor, Wyles; Farrell (capt.), Wigglesworth; M Vunipola, George, Koch, Itoje, Kruis, Rhodes, Wray, B. Vunipola.
Replacements: Brits, Lamositele, Du Plessis, Hamilton, Burger, Spencer, Lozowski, Ellery.


2. Wasps v Leicester:

Wasps: Beale; Wade, Daly, Gopperth, Le Roux; Cipriani, Simpson; Mullan, Johnson, Swainston; Launchbury (capt), Symons; Haskell, Young, Hughes.
Replacements: Taylor, McIntyre, Moore, Gaskell, Thompson, Robson, Leiua, Bassett.

Leicester: Veainu; Thompstone, Tait, O. Williams, Betham; Burns, B. Youngs; Genge, T. Youngs (capt), Cole; Barrow, Kitchener; Fitzgerald, O'Connor, Hamilton.
Replacements: McGuigan, Bateman, Balmain, Slater, M. Williams, Harrison, Roberts, Smith.


Two good games in prospect!


PG

 
Boldngrey
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19/05/2017 20:50
Slade only good enough for the bench!

 
P G Tips
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20/05/2017 20:49
Two cracking semis, with two attack minded sides going through to the Final.

The standard this year shows what we have to aspire to for next season.

PG

 
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Widcombe Boy (IP Logged)

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21/05/2017 09:18
Great write up PG Tips and two outstanding games of rugby. Absolutely riveting viewing.

Just one thing, why play the premiership semi's the week after The European Champions Cup Final.

I'm thrilled for Exeter, but this certainly had an impact on Sarries performance

 
Moggie
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24/05/2017 10:35
Probably because, WB, in a 'normal' league situation the season would have been over, Wasps would be champions and, if the Pro12 followed suit, The Lions would now be on a plane to NZ to give themselves time and a chance to win the series!

But that's not the way it is and, in that case ...... C'MON EXE!

Cheers! (Sm63)

 
Rucking Carl
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26/05/2017 10:54
This season will be the 15th decided by playoffs after 15 not decided by playoffs. It's fair to say that playoffs are normal; and lots of other sports use them.
The argument being that is it fair that some clubs lose a lot of players to internationals, so your squad gets you to the playoffs and your best 23 available get you the trophy.

As for the scheduling, I suppose they have to play all the big games at the end of the season. Saracens managed it last year but this year was too much.

 
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26/05/2017 12:51
Teams for the Final::

Wasps: Le Roux; Wade, Daly, Gopperth, Bassett; Cipriani, Robson; Mullan, Taylor, Swainston, Launchbury (capt), Symons, Haskell, Young, Hughes.

Replacements: Johnson, McIntyre, Moore, Myall, Thompson, Simpson, Leiua, Halai.

Exeter Chiefs: Dollman; Nowell, Whitten, Devoto, Woodburn; Steenson (capt), Townsend; Moon, Cowan-Dickie, Williams, Dennis, Parling, Horstmann, Armand, Waldrom.

Replacements: Yeandle, Rimmer, Francis, Lees, S. Simmonds, Chudley, Slade, Campagnaro.

PG

 
DanWiley
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29/05/2017 11:03
I think the losing of internationals acts as a nice break on teams going out and buying teams full of internationals. In any case, it's always felt like an excuse to justify a money making idea.

I think they are here to stay, and will do until someone finds a more profitable way to end the season, but I don't think that means you can't disagree with them in terms of motivation or as a means of deciding the best team over the season.

 
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BathMatt53 (IP Logged)

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29/05/2017 17:52
The players all looked pretty motivated in the semis and finals. Over the last 10 years it was only the year that we got there that one of the top 2 didn't win it. My view is that it is both fair due to the internationals and enjoyable for those clubs involved - and gives some meaning to the last few weeks of the season as well for a lot of teams towards the top. I'm a definite fan.

 
DanWiley
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30/05/2017 08:31
I think it compresses the excitement of the end of the season rather than increases it. The last quarter of the season it was only a question of whether it's us or tiggers qualified and there no one really thought either would be champions. Outside Leicester and bath I doubt many were that interested.

 
Boldngrey
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30/05/2017 08:54
Two more games at the end of an already overcrowded season increases the attrition rate unnecessarily.

Nothing to do with fairness over the 6N, just a chance to make money.

 
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30/05/2017 09:44
Quote:
DanWiley
I think it compresses the excitement of the end of the season rather than increases it. The last quarter of the season it was only a question of whether it's us or tiggers qualified and there no one really thought either would be champions. Outside Leicester and bath I doubt many were that interested.

Well if you didn't have them even fewer teams would have been interested. The last quarter of the season is always more exciting anyway.

 
DanWiley
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30/05/2017 19:56
Was it? It was mildly interesting to me as a bath fan but even there I didn't really have much hope for us. Everyone else, I don't see it.

Had it been a straight shoot it for the top 3 would have been toe to toe right to the end. As it was, the top 3 was decided months ago and we just had to fill the time.

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