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Defending the Indefensible….?
By Veston Pants
August 18 2010

Defending the Indefensible….?

The RFU’s decision to determine the sides promoted and relegated from the Championship by employing a system of play-offs has generally been received almost as well as Harold Shipman’s Help the Aged membership application.

I have seen it written on this and many other message boards that the play-offs are a lottery and are unfair. But is this really the case?

Almost inevitably, any move of this magnitude will attract a degree of opposition. After all, nobody likes change for change’s sake. However, it would appear that opposition from the clubs and supporters alike is more than the usual inertia and conservatism which could be expected to greet such decisions.

Our own beloved leader, Sir Cecil Duckworth’s objection to the play-offs has recently been widely reported. His principal objection appears to be that the play-offs place the newly promoted club at a disadvantage in the recruitment stakes on the basis that top quality players are less likely to sign for a club until they are assured of a place in the Premiership. And, with the play-offs not concluding until well into May, these top quality players will already have pledged their futures to the incumbent top flight sides. Now for obvious reasons I would not wish to call Mr Duckworth’s judgement into question for one moment. The scenario he paints is highly plausible and makes good sense. However, it is only valid up to a point. It works on one very large assumption - that being that if promotion was determined solely under the old ‘round robin’ system then we would have a clear cut winner in time for the club to compete for the signatures of the best available players. This may be true in some years but it is equally possible that promotion may not be determined until the last weekend of the season with 2, 3 or maybe more clubs challenging for the Championship title. Player recruitment would therefore be equally as tough as it would under a play-off scenario especially if some of the players alluded to had signed new contracts in January and February.

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So, are the play-offs a lottery? A lottery is a pure game of chance with each entry having an equal likelihood of success with the outcome being determined by random draw. Quite clearly the play-offs are nothing like a lottery. I refer the reader to the evidence of season 2009-2010’s play-offs, the final of which was competed by Bristol and Exeter Chiefs. These two sides finished the ‘regular season’ in first and second place in the Championship table – evidence, should it be needed that the cream rose to the top. As we know, the final was won by the Chiefs who gained promotion. “Unfair!” cried the sceptics. “How can a team that did not win the league get promoted?” Well, the point of having a system of promotion is that the best team ultimately is elevated to the higher division. Quite frankly, I fail to see how even the most myopic of Bristol supporters could argue that the Chiefs were not the best team. They beat Bristol convincingly in both legs of the final. This must be good for the game. After all, what chance would a weaker team have of survival in the top tier.

But is this unfair? I would contend it is not. Every club knew the rules before the start of the season. The rules were not changed at mid-point to artificially favour one side over another. The strategy adopted by each club was not determined by the RFU and Exeter can be congratulated for choosing the most effective approach.

For me, rugby remains a meritocracy in which the best side will ultimately win out. If a team is good enough to gain promotion and have the best possible chance of survival it must first prove that it is the strongest side at the end of the season. If a club cannot beat its closest rival in a battle of the fittest how can they claim the right to the prize?

That seems fair enough to me.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:09:04:19:20:18 by Powick Eastander.

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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
My view is why have " play offs ". If a team has battled through the season and finished top they have won the league and should be promoted. If a team has not gained as many points as any of the other teams and finish bottom, they should be demoted. I accept this situation is in place in the Championship and we have to accept it, but we do not have to agree with it. As with the Premiership, in my opinion, whoever finishes top are the League Champions, not the team that may win the play offs.

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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
Spokesman for the RFU when asked about the ill feeling toward the playoffs stuck his fingers in his ears and said loudly
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA

I can't hear you(Sm122)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2010:08:18:20:17:21 by Powick Eastander.

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18 Aug, 2010 20:07 Report
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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
"The RFU’s decision to determine the sides promoted and relegated from the Championship by employing a system of play-offs has generally been received almost as well as Harold Shipman’s Help the Aged membership application."

Brilliant!!!

And a very well put together article which will help to continue the debate. I am not averse to the play off system, but I agree that as it stands the season currently ends too late. Why instead can the season not start one month earlier to accommodate the play offs?

Déjŕ vu? I’ve seen it all before!

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18 Aug, 2010 22:01 Report
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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
let's hope we don't get someone like Christophe Berdos in the semi final.

It is a lottery if you can fail to gain promotion through inept refereeing.

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Well then Ianred it would be up to our players to dominate the opposition to make and dodgy ref decisions indicisive. There is NEVER a reason to blame a ref for loosing a game.

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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
Huuumm.. Not so sure about that after the EEC Final against Bath!

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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
What happens if illness spreads through the camp on the eve of the final? What if an injury crisis strikes what would otherwise be the stronger team before the final?

That's why I don't like the playoffs. It is not a guarantee that the strongest side/squad will win promotion. A league campaign can also be influenced by injuries etc, but the chances of this happening are reduced.

Promotion should go to the team that has proved itself to be stronger over the course of an entire season - not at one particular point in time.

The playoffs also reduces the importance of the normal league fixtures. This obviously reduces the entertainment value - there is less tension etc in the first half of the season.

All the points made in Veston's article are good ones, but IMHO it misses the broader perspective. Just my 2p.

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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
Ah, but what happens if a club opens up an unbeatable lead by January then, after overspending in the new year sales, goes into administration; loses its best players and gets whipped by 50 in each of its remaining games?

Does that club still deserve to be promoted?

There is an argument that promoting the side that is strongest at the end of the season would lead to a more competitive Premiership and gives the promoted side the better chance of staying up.

Fanciful stuff, I know, but there is no perfect system and my article was simply a clumsy way of stimulating debate.

FWIW, I would also prefer it if we didn't have promotion or relegation determined by play-offs.

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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
Whatever 'systemm' is in place, the shrewd manager will adopt the best strategy for attaining the ultimate goal, i.e. promotion. If that means not going hell bent at the beginning of the season to achieve a secure position, but rather keeping the powder dry for that final push then that is the way it is.

My view is that teams finishing mid table (and that includes Albion) should not even have a look in when it comes to the promotion playoff - this would make the league games more relevant.


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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
Like your debate...thought i'd 'join in'

if you look at last season ...
at the beginning when Exeter were top, they 'protested' against the playoff system taking the same view as 'you' that top of the league should be automatically promoted and Briz supported it knowing that they get anothe chance in the playoff stages. Towards the end when Briz moved to the top came top both 'reversed' their opinions

If your team doesn't come top of the championship(before the playoffs) due to injuries/illnesses etc during the season - will you still say that playoffs are a bad idea?

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Re: Defending the Indefensible….?
You only have to look at the Gloucester saga to realise that the play offs are a lottery and grossly unfair! They won the league twice in about three years and lost out on the play offs. On one occasion they had accumulated a massive lead over the course of the season, over a dozen points from memory. Surely the championship should be decided by the best team over the entire system winning the accolades? its all about consistency isn't it? Well, actually no it isn't its a good old fashioned lottery and completely unethical! End of!

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