Thomas Sign Death Warrent
Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Thomas Sign Death Warrent
By Andrew Collins
May 24 2008
The Cardiff Blues board are today celebrating signing a 20-year ground rental off Cardiff City FC as of next season. The announcement has been expected for a long time, but still comes as the final nail for many rugby fans, in the Cardiff regional coffin.
Thomas Sign Death Warrent
May 24 2008
The Cardiff Blues board are today celebrating signing a 20-year ground rental off Cardiff City FC as of next season. The announcement has been expected for a long time, but still comes as the final nail for many rugby fans, in the Cardiff regional coffin.
The move has been on for a long time now, with first reports on this site coming way back in November 2006, Story Here, but it's only now that the board can confirm for sure that the move will now go ahead.
The strongly opposed decision to rent off Cardiff City has been taken by the board, meaning that the next 20 seasons, following 08/09, will see the Cardiff Blues play at The City of Cardiff Stadium.
It's thought that the region will have no fixed identity in the new stadium, with only temporary signs around the ground on Cardiff Blues match days, while the Cardiff City Bluebird will be a permanent fixture at the front of the stadium, along with the council logo.
On top of that, the Blues will not have a fixed shop or ticket office on the new grounds, with Cardiff City saying they do want their own brand diluted by sharing a ticket office and shop with the rugby side. Instead, the Blues will have a tent open on match days selling merchandise.
Peter Thomas has apparently been shocked with the strong opposition to the move, however the board have accounted for a loss of 1,000 season tickets in the first season, although the number of people not renewing now looks set to be a lot higher.
As the stadium belongs to Cardiff City, they will have the final say on fixtures, branding etc as they have every right to do, however rugby fans will have to look forward to more Tuesday and Thursday evening kick offs from 09/10 onwards.
Robert Norster was today delighted by the news, telling CardiffBlues.com;
"We positively look forward to a new beginning for both codes in a stadium and facilities designed for modern-day teams and supporters alike. Our shared training ground at the Vale together with the new stadium will undoubtedly play a major part in our combined efforts to move our respective teams forward. The move will also ensure we can advance and develop further the Cardiff Blues region in the increasingly competitive world of professional rugby."
His statements were echoed by CCFC chairman, Peter Ridsdale, who is right to be excited by the news, given the deal his business is getting. He said,
"It's a fantastic day for sport in the city whereby two leading brands will be playing top level sport in the new stadium. We are very pleased that Cardiff Blues have signed the licence to play all of their home games at the stadium over the next twenty years. Both Cardiff City Football Club and Cardiff Blues have already agreed a new training headquarters at the Vale of Glamorgan Resort and the announcement today further demonstrates how important it is for major sporting brands in Cardiff to be working together for the benefit of the wider community."
But perhaps most poignantly,
"Today is an important day in Cardiff City's future sporting history."
So the deal has been signed, Cardiff will leave their historic ground, which they own, to move to the 25,000 all seater stadium, where they have no identity, no club house and no control.
Has Peter Thomas just signed Cardiff rugby's death warrant? Only time will tell, but I for one certainly think so.
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Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: theArmsPark.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 24/05/2008 20:26
Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent???????
Posted by: swanseablue (IP Logged)
Date: 25/05/2008 22:04
With all due respect Andrew I find the above statement melodramatic in the extreme!
Most Cardiff Rugby fans are still in the dark as to what the terms of the deal to rent at the new Cardiff City Stadium actually are so any claims of the club's demise are ridiculous.
Lets find out the terms of the deal before anyone here makes any rash judgments as to the clubs future.Its not helping anyone
Most Cardiff Rugby fans are still in the dark as to what the terms of the deal to rent at the new Cardiff City Stadium actually are so any claims of the club's demise are ridiculous.
Lets find out the terms of the deal before anyone here makes any rash judgments as to the clubs future.Its not helping anyone
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: S A Brained (IP Logged)
Date: 25/05/2008 22:19
Ask your self a question Swanseablue: Why are we still so much in the dark (except for the information that has come out of CARDIFF CITY FC)?
It may just give you a clue to the reasons for Andrew's "melodrama".
It may just give you a clue to the reasons for Andrew's "melodrama".
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: swanseablue (IP Logged)
Date: 25/05/2008 22:38
As has been said time and time before Mr SA Brained this 'melodrama' is all based on thoughts and suppositions . I agree it is very disconcerting for the average fan but lets not jump the gun here yes? Having seen how the locals here in Swansea have been able to build a positive relationship with the area and its fanbase through the new stadium ,I see no reason why as the capital city we can't do the same and to a much greater extent. We have too very large prominent identities in Cardiff City AFC and Cardiff Blues RFC and they both recognise the need to establish a stable future which comes with the right up to date facilities to gain the revenue streams and attract the talent to develop sporting success .
I don't think Norster is stupid enough to jeopardize the future of the club through renting at the new stadium if the club didn't have some element of control over the running of the stadium. Cardiff Rugby Clubs Identity has changed once and im sure it will change again from this move and once the club is settled there will be no complaints
I don't think Norster is stupid enough to jeopardize the future of the club through renting at the new stadium if the club didn't have some element of control over the running of the stadium. Cardiff Rugby Clubs Identity has changed once and im sure it will change again from this move and once the club is settled there will be no complaints
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: S A Brained (IP Logged)
Date: 25/05/2008 22:46
Do you mean "too" or "two" very large? The meaning of your comment changes depending on which!
Can you answer the questions posed to you?
Can you answer the questions posed to you?
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: swanseablue (IP Logged)
Date: 25/05/2008 22:57
Yes certainly. What I was trying to say is that there are :
TWO DISTINCT IDENTITIES: Cardiff City AFC & Cardiff (BLUES) RFC
any more questions Ill try my best to answer them how I see the situation
TWO DISTINCT IDENTITIES: Cardiff City AFC & Cardiff (BLUES) RFC
any more questions Ill try my best to answer them how I see the situation
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: S A Brained (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2008 07:56
Why are Thomas and Norster so unwilling to talk to us?
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: Swanseablue (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2008 11:59
I don't know why Norster and Thomas don't seem to want to speak to the fans , but I know they're not the only ones....
Steve Borley ,board member of CCFC has been the only person who I have heard of talk openly to the fans of Cardiff City about what the development involves regards facilities . I think he would be the man to ask about what the development involves. I shall see if i can find out more
Steve Borley ,board member of CCFC has been the only person who I have heard of talk openly to the fans of Cardiff City about what the development involves regards facilities . I think he would be the man to ask about what the development involves. I shall see if i can find out more
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: S A Brained (IP Logged)
Date: 26/05/2008 12:44
So CCFC are talking CRFC are not. Silence often speaks volumes!
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: Nick_H (IP Logged)
Date: 07/09/2008 16:56
a big part of the day/night out at the rugby in Cardiff has always been the fact its in the centre of town.
this move is a kick in the teeth to all the loyal fans.
this move is a kick in the teeth to all the loyal fans.
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: Dead_Passive (IP Logged)
Date: 08/09/2008 07:52
Yeah I love the fact that the arms park is in the centre of town.
And the fact that you can just cross the road to the city arms after the game
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:09:08:09:28:40 by Dead_Passive.
And the fact that you can just cross the road to the city arms after the game
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:09:08:09:28:40 by Dead_Passive.
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: TaffSpick (IP Logged)
Date: 09/09/2008 20:56
Never mind all that - it's Death Warrant not Warrent! 
Re: Thomas Signs Cardiff Rugbys Death Warrent
Posted by: Reservoir Prop (IP Logged)
Date: 10/09/2008 16:23
.. and rent "from" (not rent "off").
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