Italian Job Falls Through
Italian Job Falls Through
Italian Job Falls Through
By Andrew Collins
January 29 2010
The deal to bring two Italian teams to the Magners League next season has fallen through after talks between the Italian Federation and the Board of Magners Celtic League broke down.
Italian Job Falls Through
January 29 2010
The deal to bring two Italian teams to the Magners League next season has fallen through after talks between the Italian Federation and the Board of Magners Celtic League broke down.
It was announced on the Italian Rugby Official website that they had pulled out of the deal as they felt the Celtic Board's entry fee was too high. It's believed they wanted 3.5 Million Euros per team, a price the IF were not prepared to pay. However, the IF did concede they would be open to renegotiating should the Celtic board lower their valuation.
With there being no official news on the Magners League website, it suggests the CB don't see the deal as being over, so there could yet be a ‘U-turn'.
The story can be found (albeit in poorly translated English) at http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.federugby.it/&ei=_fViS8SDFo_KjAeN1cmbBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ditalian%2Brugby%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1C1SVEA_enGB361GB361
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Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: theArmsPark.co.uk (IP Logged)
Date: 29/01/2010 15:18
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Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Selgwent (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 10:24
Unless they can bring a pot of cash to the table, good riddance.
They need us more than we need them. Particularly if they want to develop rugby on their domestic front.
The home games for us will rival the Scottish games in terms of lowest possible gates, whilst the away matches will be big drains on our budgets (teams as well as fans).
I know there's the 'for the greater good of rugby' arguement, but that's what the IRB is for, not professional clubs / regions / etc..
They need us more than we need them. Particularly if they want to develop rugby on their domestic front.
The home games for us will rival the Scottish games in terms of lowest possible gates, whilst the away matches will be big drains on our budgets (teams as well as fans).
I know there's the 'for the greater good of rugby' arguement, but that's what the IRB is for, not professional clubs / regions / etc..
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Dim Cais (IP Logged)
Date: 30/01/2010 13:28
Doesn't surprise me.
£3m per team? How could they afford that on top of massive travelling expenses, piddly home attendances and who are their sponsors?
£3m per team? How could they afford that on top of massive travelling expenses, piddly home attendances and who are their sponsors?
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: jake 1 (IP Logged)
Date: 20/02/2010 14:35
the Italians are still coming by the looks of it:
[www.independent.ie]
Hope it does happen, I think they will be a great addition to the league especially if they can tempt some of the italians who play in france back to Italy.
[www.independent.ie]
Hope it does happen, I think they will be a great addition to the league especially if they can tempt some of the italians who play in france back to Italy.
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Dim Cais (IP Logged)
Date: 20/02/2010 21:39
Quote:jake 1
the Italians are still coming by the looks of it:
[www.independent.ie]
Hope it does happen, I think they will be a great addition to the league especially if they can tempt some of the italians who play in france back to Italy.
If it happens it will be like adding two lesser Connachts to the league.
Also unless our expenses are covered, we'll end up losing money on travel and accommodation together with an additional matchday to pay for at SDR.
As for tempting the top Italian players; I can't see that happening. The Bergamasco brothers, Parisse and Castrogiovanni, for example, are on shed loads where they are at present. Would they get the same playing in Italy? I doubt it.
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: BlueButtyBoy (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2010 23:02
I hope it happens like most of you.
Even if they can not get their star players to return, a quota on foreigners will have the effect of increasing the potential pool of players they can select from.
For a few years the rugby will be dire, but you got to start from somewhere!
Even if they can not get their star players to return, a quota on foreigners will have the effect of increasing the potential pool of players they can select from.
For a few years the rugby will be dire, but you got to start from somewhere!
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Dim Cais (IP Logged)
Date: 21/02/2010 23:23
Quote:BlueButtyBoy
I hope it happens like most of you.
Even if they can not get their star players to return, a quota on foreigners will have the effect of increasing the potential pool of players they can select from.
For a few years the rugby will be dire, but you got to start from somewhere!
What will the Italians bring to the Magners table other than more expense for us and another 4 games to squeeze into the fixture list of a league competition that is pants anyway?
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Bluepragmatist (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 15:48
i am glad if the Italians do enter the magners league. They would add another dimension to a magners league that is desperately trying to improve itself. I am glad that the majority of correspondents here don't decide, talk about "Little Englanders" they are "Little Cardiffians!". welcome Italians, your participation will unleash the Latent Potential that Carwyn James foresaw.
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: BlueButtyBoy (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 20:13
That's a name for you, Carwyn James!
Did anyone see that docu-drama a few months back about him.
Back to the Italians, at least there will be a chance of us not ending up last.
Seriously, it will help Italian rugby develop enormously. The Anglo Welsh will then take its proper position then as a development trophy.
Did anyone see that docu-drama a few months back about him.
Back to the Italians, at least there will be a chance of us not ending up last.
Seriously, it will help Italian rugby develop enormously. The Anglo Welsh will then take its proper position then as a development trophy.
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Dim Cais (IP Logged)
Date: 27/02/2010 23:10
Quote:Bluepragmatist
i am glad if the Italians do enter the magners league. They would add another dimension to a magners league that is desperately trying to improve itself. I am glad that the majority of correspondents here don't decide, talk about "Little Englanders" they are "Little Cardiffians!". welcome Italians, your participation will unleash the Latent Potential that Carwyn James foresaw.
Can you explain this "dimension" you refer to and how the introduction of the Italian teams will benefit us? What the Magners needs is intensity and I can't see this being the answer unless it attracts a bigger sponsor and therefore more to play for.
The Italian sides will get a damn good thrashing in all of their games as their players will be mostly semi pro types by the look of it.
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Selgwent (IP Logged)
Date: 28/02/2010 09:37
We've already got a big enough drain on our resources at the SdL.
Because of this, we can't keep some of the class we've got, or strengthen our positions of weakness.
Yes we'd all appreciate the extra competition of stronger Italian teams in Euro competitions, and in the 6N, but can we, the Blues, really afford to bleed away more cash (which we already lack) on trips to Italy and an even more empty stadium for the returns?
Because of this, we can't keep some of the class we've got, or strengthen our positions of weakness.
Yes we'd all appreciate the extra competition of stronger Italian teams in Euro competitions, and in the 6N, but can we, the Blues, really afford to bleed away more cash (which we already lack) on trips to Italy and an even more empty stadium for the returns?
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: ATTR (IP Logged)
Date: 09/03/2010 15:33
Quote:Bluepragmatist
i am glad if the Italians do enter the magners league. They would add another dimension to a magners league that is desperately trying to improve itself. I am glad that the majority of correspondents here don't decide, talk about "Little Englanders" they are "Little Cardiffians!". welcome Italians, your participation will unleash the Latent Potential that Carwyn James foresaw.
I love the name. So Ironic. So far from pragmatic as you could be. we have no money so we have to weaken the squad still further and yet we should do out bit for the Italians! Why?
Re: Italian Job Falls Through
Posted by: Selgwent (IP Logged)
Date: 11/03/2010 07:08
If only the alikadoos realised that northern Italy gets a bit cold in the winter, they may not have been so keen to secure their two jollies every season there.
I also like the talk of supporters following their teams there.
Treviso, stand by to be swamped by Connacht fans!
I also like the talk of supporters following their teams there.
Treviso, stand by to be swamped by Connacht fans!
