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Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park


Cardiff Arms Park

By Andrew Collins
May 21 2012

Eleven days ago, the Cardiff Blues announced, to thousands of delighted fans, that they would be returning home to the world famous Cardiff Arms Park. Indeed it was the news everyone had been waiting for, but it hasn’t solved every issue at the club...

After three long years at the Cardiff City Stadium, fans of the capital region have been rejoicing at the news their team would be playing their rugby back in the heart of our fine city. The news was greeted with more glee than the signings of Jonah Lomu, Martyn Williams and Neil Jenkins combined and has breathed new life into a business which has been coughing and wheezing its way into the present decade.

Without wishing to dampen the joyous mood currently surrounding the Cardiff Blues, things are still bad financially. Without doubt, the return home solves a large string of problems which where crippling the team; the £500,000 a year rent at CCS has apparently evaporated while initial ticket sales imply the gate will be significantly up on recent years.

But it has struck me that there so many ways to generate additional income from owning your own ground, aside from the obvious commercial benefits, most of which seem to have been totally ignored by the powers that be.

It has long been spoken about among fans, but the car park situated behind the north stand makes a substantial amount of money for the region. Its only downside appears to be the lack of spaces. Could CRFC Ltd. not exploit this area of land better? A mere punter like me can see that a multi-story car park in this area of town could generate huge interest and therefore more revenue. Not only is it ideal for fans to drive to games, but it can be utilised 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Yet another example of how ideal the city centre location is.

The Cardiff Arms Park club house itself could be used better, could it not? A pub in the centre of town, which sells cheap beer and has its own unique rugby-theme selling point... yes it needs a lick of paint but there is a huge market in Cardiff including a large student population. Surely more can be done to make money from this wonderful location.

There are so many possibilities when you begin to look outside the box and consider what we have available to us, but I will end this article by proposing a controversial yet very sensible suggestion. The Cardiff Arms Park has two main stands, both of which have generated money from being renamed in the past (Kintana and BMI Baby two examples). It’s quite simply money for nothing. Well what about selling naming rights to the Cardiff Arms Park itself? The money made from renaming stands is decent, no doubt, but you can command far more money from sponsors who would see their company’s name attached to one the most famous rugby stadiums in the world. Not only that, but on an almost weekly basis on BBC, S4C and Sky Sports television channels as well a plethora of sports websites. I admit, it would not please a lot of people, but Welsh rugby needs to squeeze every last drop out of the limited resources it has available to it. Consider the JJB Arms Park for example. Would you sell the naming rights if it paid Sam Warburton and Leigh Halfpenny’s contracts?

We’ve made the correct decision to move back home. Now’s the chance to really make the most of it.

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Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
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21/05/2012 20:07
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Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
bloogoo (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 20:48
Good points raised. But, will those in charge with stubborn agendas that refused to make an effort with CCS be willing to take on such obvious, yet revolutionary ideas.

One point which has been raised on other forums is the attitude within the holy of holy's, the members bar. IMO, this should be open to all supporters on match days. It could also embrace the region itself and include history from the feeder clubs, not just RFC. They've got their own way, now it's time to win some hearts and mind's further a field. The sceptics will say it'll never work. But, lets be honest, those folk will be pushing up daisies soon and it's time to crack on and bring in new support.

Another option could be open air events/gigs. It's a near perfect location, perfect size to challenge Motorpoint but not too big like the MS.

What shouldn't happen is we just return to CAP, and it's the same as it was before we left. Opinions and ideas need to change not just the paint work and toilets.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
Neil (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 20:49
Not sure how you could put a multi storey car park in there. The bowls section would have to go (they actualy do want to move - to Thompson Park) and the bit leased annualy to the hotel used as well, so you have to off set those costs and lost revenue against the new income. After the completion of St Davids 2 and their cheap car parking deal, the Ltd Co lost the contract that it had had with the WAG and other (daily) parking was hit as well, As for any change to parking the access for TV companies etc to the MS part has to be maintained (This is a big earner for the Ltd Co)
then the pub bit, it has been tried (admittadly only half heartedly!) but even Yates (and now the WRU) have found that the site is just to far from other places to market that easily, seems people just won't cross the road!!! If you look at the pub opposite they use their entrance in Womanby Street because it is busier!!!

Then the big @#$%& to all this...
The ground is not owned by CRFRC Ltd but by CAC. The lease only demands that the ground (if) is returned in at least the same condition as when it was originally leased to them in 1995... So the Ltd Co has to work very closely with CAC to make any of the changes that are presently happening let alone even more.
I happen to think CAC should disband and the shares in the Ltd co transfered to trustees with the then new Ltd Co buying the site, so taht the other sections have the benefit of a secure future and the club can raise some much neede funds from issuing some 3 million unissued shares!!!
Then htere is the WRU interst in what happens to the site of course!!!

Still over all you are right, the Ltd Co need to look to get maximum return from the site, after all without that much effort it was (until 18 months ago!) making a return over the lease (approx £100,000 pa) of about £600,000!!!
I urge anyone with an interest in the team to not only buy a season ticket but to also apply to be a CAC member - £40 this year....

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Soldier: This is the worst part. The calm before the battle
Fry: And then the battle is not so bad?
Soldier: Oh, right. I forgot about the battle

Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
Neil (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 20:55
Quote:
bloogoo
Good points raised. But, will those in charge with stubborn agendas that refused to make an effort with CCS be willing to take on such obvious, yet revolutionary ideas.
One point which has been raised on other forums is the attitude within the holy of holy's, the members bar. IMO, this should be open to all supporters on match days.
It could also embrace the region itself and include history from the feeder clubs, not just RFC. They've got their own way, now it's time to win some hearts and mind's further a field. The sceptics will say it'll never work. But, lets be honest, those folk will be pushing up daisies soon and it's time to crack on and bring in new support.

Another option could be open air events/gigs. It's a near perfect location, perfect size to challenge Motorpoint but not too big like the MS.

What shouldn't happen is we just return to CAP, and it's the same as it was before we left. Opinions and ideas need to change not just the paint work and toilets.
but it is a private members bar, belonging to ALL members of CAC. And anyway on match days it usually is near to capacity anyway...
More needs to be done with the bars already existing plus additions to the north side...
As you say though th emanagement really do need to start to think outside of the box.
there are improvements being made. I just hope the BIGGEST one is to the rugby playing side. I'd happily stand on an orange box to watch them play and pee in a trench if it meant that more resources were aimed at the team, everything else is secondary and can be achieved if the will is there

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Soldier: This is the worst part. The calm before the battle
Fry: And then the battle is not so bad?
Soldier: Oh, right. I forgot about the battle

Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
bloogoo (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 21:02
But unfortunately that's not regional rugby. Supporter expect more from the experience. Of course the team is No.1 but to encourage a family down, or at least a bloke and his Mrs to watch the Welsh stars and and the only option after driving 40mins is a limp burger, warm ale and a @#$%& in the dark is just not going to cut the mustard.

I don't give a log, but I understand people expect more and rightly so. Standards have moved in all forms of entertainment. Rugby, especially in Wales, hasn't seemed to grasp that. With perhaps the exception of PYS.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
cardiffsteve (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 21:14
At the moment, when you walk along the Millennium walkway from Callaghans up to the Millenium Stadium, you might not realise you were walking past CAP.

What if there were a public bar, restaurant and shop along that side?



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Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
Neil (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 21:17
Quote:
bloogoo
But unfortunately that's not regional rugby. Supporter expect more from the experience. Of course the team is No.1 but to encourage a family down, or at least a bloke and his Mrs to watch the Welsh stars and and the only option after driving 40mins is a limp burger, warm ale and a @#$%& in the dark is just not going to cut the mustard.
I don't give a log, but I understand people expect more and rightly so. Standards have moved in all forms of entertainment. Rugby, especially in Wales, hasn't seemed to grasp that. With perhaps the exception of PYS.
Yes, but how is ALL this going to be paid for.
After all the Ltd Co managed to @#$%& £2,000,000 against the fab wall that is CCS. And an awful lot of this years ST sales is going to help pay off the outstanding debt to CCFC
Plenty of my mates seem happy just to be back, and none of use had the facilities that are now at CAP let alone better ones and it did us no harm. It is pointless trying to have a 'new stadium experience' when there are no funds for it. If the club were rich enough they could have invested in the CCS and benefited from any income that it earns instead of renting it for 18 days per year and hoping that their mixed message and slack marketing would provided some mythical upturn in their poor investment....
You may want improved facilitites but you have to provide the money for them without depriving the rugby side of anything!!!
Plus never had a warm beer at CAP in over 40 years or @#$%& in the dark. as for the food, it has always been better AND cheaper than Compasses' £3 scalding pies!!!

___________________________________________________________

Soldier: This is the worst part. The calm before the battle
Fry: And then the battle is not so bad?
Soldier: Oh, right. I forgot about the battle

Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
Neil (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 21:25
Quote:
cardiffsteve
At the moment, when you walk along the Millennium walkway from Callaghans up to the Millenium Stadium, you might not realise you were walking past CAP.
What if there were a public bar, restaurant and shop along that side?
We did try to improve the entrance in terms of signs ( I had a printer willing to do it FOC) but it never happened, because they never thought it worthwhile!
I would think that more would be needed, like tapping into the MS tours, but again no one will do it....
The only people going near there are either catching a bus home, going on an MS tour or the flats.

Now if we could knock down or convert those flats, then mmmmmmmm
Did you know that the land on which the flats stand was offered to the rugby club when the original Arms Park was built, but they said that they didn't need all that land!!!!

___________________________________________________________

Soldier: This is the worst part. The calm before the battle
Fry: And then the battle is not so bad?
Soldier: Oh, right. I forgot about the battle

Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
cardiffsteve (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 21:39
Quote:
Neil
Quote:
cardiffsteve
At the moment, when you walk along the Millennium walkway from Callaghans up to the Millenium Stadium, you might not realise you were walking past CAP.
What if there were a public bar, restaurant and shop along that side?
We did try to improve the entrance in terms of signs ( I had a printer willing to do it FOC) but it never happened, because they never thought it worthwhile!
I would think that more would be needed, like tapping into the MS tours, but again no one will do it....
The only people going near there are either catching a bus home, going on an MS tour or the flats.

Now if we could knock down or convert those flats, then mmmmmmmm
Did you know that the land on which the flats stand was offered to the rugby club when the original Arms Park was built, but they said that they didn't need all that land!!!!

I suppose the Bute lot still own the freehold on those flats. And they probably do quite well out of them.

If theres a market for MS stadium tours perhaps theres also market for a small Cardiff Arms Park Museum open to the public.

Anyway, theres obviously more that can be done with the site but without money - and still not knowing what longer term plans might be for CAP - its all moot.

And I wouldnt be opposed to Admin's idea either.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
Neil (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 21:46
Well I think a start would be to get as many CAC and Rugby St holders in to the clubhouse during the week. Karl used to run a pub quiz which was good fun but it eneded up with only a dozen turning up!
Also we were going to try for a blues night upsatirs each week and a poker night. But that was before I was taken ill and it petered out sad smiley
Still once we see the immediate plans then perhaps we can make theese and oth suggestions to them again.
There always little company conferences and events being held at CAP anyway, so if anyone works for a (smallish) company that holds events can get their company to check details and maybe hold their does there smiling smiley (I used to hold mine there so can vouch for the fact that they are always well presented and run by the staff)

___________________________________________________________

Soldier: This is the worst part. The calm before the battle
Fry: And then the battle is not so bad?
Soldier: Oh, right. I forgot about the battle

Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
cardiffstu (IP Logged)
21/05/2012 22:11
I've gone into the Clubhouse on a few Friday evenings. Met a mate for food, gone there to watch other games on tv and there are often less than six people in there. It's sadly underused.

With regards to our "regional" status, I don't understand how Cardiff RFC Ltd get to foot the bill for this when none of the other regional clubs contribute financially.

It's time to face facts that Ponty being part of the region will never work - the whole Valleys rugby debacle should be enough to prove that.

BackToCAP and back to being Cardiff.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
22/05/2012 14:16
Quote:
cardiffstu
With regards to our "regional" status, I don't understand how Cardiff RFC Ltd get to foot the bill for this when none of the other regional clubs contribute financially.
It's time to face facts that Ponty being part of the region will never work - the whole Valleys rugby debacle should be enough to prove that.

BackToCAP and back to being Cardiff.

Interesting point, I'd never really considered that. Who paid into the Liberty stadium? Did money come from Swansea and Neath? If so, then I agree that Ponty should theoretically pay half of any repair costs for CAP.

Obviously, that would never happen, but it does make for yet another compelling argument to return Cardiff to it's (official) solo status.

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Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
shrekogre (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 16:10
Quote:
theArmsPark.co.uk Admin
Quote:
cardiffstu
With regards to our "regional" status, I don't understand how Cardiff RFC Ltd get to foot the bill for this when none of the other regional clubs contribute financially.
It's time to face facts that Ponty being part of the region will never work - the whole Valleys rugby debacle should be enough to prove that.

BackToCAP and back to being Cardiff.

Interesting point, I'd never really considered that. Who paid into the Liberty stadium? Did money come from Swansea and Neath? If so, then I agree that Ponty should theoretically pay half of any repair costs for CAP.

Obviously, that would never happen, but it does make for yet another compelling argument to return Cardiff to it's (official) solo status.

I like the idea. Ponty paying the Blues for taking their best players, quite novel really.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
cardiffsteve (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 16:34
I hate to bang on about the same thing, but I have a real bee in my bonnet about the Millennium walkway side.

I've spoken with people who have described CAP as an eyesore, and if you look at the place from that side they're perfectly right. Its just nondescript fencing blocking some concrete buildings from view - to the uninitiated it could easily be a construction site.

Now, at the very least - why can't we have advertising boards at that end? Anybody coming over the bridge would get a perfect view of them.

The Millennium Stadium is much loved in Cardiff, partially because its a fantastic looking landmark - we need to make sure that outwardly the CAP site looks good to passers by.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
MJD42 (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 20:17
Something that needs to be addressed is the lack of recognition outside the club house for fomer players namely why isn't one of the stands named after Bleddyn Williams, Martyn Williams way, bars named after players.

As for making money the prices quoted to hire clubhouse is way too expensive for the facility that it is. Look to hire it out for meetings, birthdays, weddings, toddler groups. Put on indoor bowls

Beer prices is a massive factor with so many cheap pubs on Westgate Street it would be hard to compete.

Finally use some on site catering to sell burgers, hot dogs etc to get some money in. Use local produce, beer and drinks companies (Brains and Coffee#1)

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
MJD42 (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 20:20
Also player shirt sponsorships why has this never been considered by the Blues. Cardiff City and many rugby league and union teams use this. For example £200 for home shirt, £150 away shirt etc.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
MJD42 (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 20:25
Wouldn't have a problem wit selling the stadium name provided arms park is in the title, eg EADS Arms Park.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
cardiffstu (IP Logged)
22/05/2012 22:16
The Blues already pay the wages of the "Ponty" players as they're contracted to Cardiff RFC Ltd, well the good ones.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
Neil (IP Logged)
23/05/2012 14:09
The reason for the lack of marketing. ie selling individual player packages (It does happen for the Rags side, via the CAC rugby committe) is because the marketing was being run by people without any previous experience (not to mention no clue!)
Now that the department is changing personel perhaps suggestions should be sent in, esp if any of you are willing to provide some of this sponsorship, so get writing in. Here are some of the contacts (remove the spaces around the @ first)
Rhys Blumberg 029 2064 3788 rhys.blumberg @ cardiffblues.com

Matt Church 02920 643782 matt.church @ cardiffblues.com

Cathy Selio 029 2064 3783 cathy.selio @ cardiffblues.com

Annabelle Harries 029 2064 3780 annabelle.harries @ cardiffblues.com

If you think the hire charges are too high have you tried a counter offer?
Also if you are a CAC member you can hire at least the upstairs bar once per year FREE of CHARGE!!!


As for naming the stands, both have been sold to sponsors (not sure on the actual deals mind) But the bars, hospitality & family bits aren't so they could be done until they were sponsored. I think the only part of CAP that has a players name is the disabled suite at the river end 'Barry Nelmes Suite' which the trust built and Bob Norster opened a few years ago...

Oh yes as for the 'Ponty' players, they are placed there by there employers CRFC Ltd many are never found by Ponty.
If we had regional rugby then everything may be different, but we ahven't so anyone holding onto this 'Blues' thing is doing so with their eyes (and mind!) firmly closed....


So come on everyone get writing in, you never know some of the ideas might stick!!!

Good luck

___________________________________________________________

Soldier: This is the worst part. The calm before the battle
Fry: And then the battle is not so bad?
Soldier: Oh, right. I forgot about the battle

Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
CardiffWilt (IP Logged)
24/05/2012 20:48
I wonder if they should offer the Sunday Farmer's market that camps on the pavement across the river some of the car park; but then the clubhouse doesn't open on Sundays so there'd be no income from passing punters.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
cardiffstu (IP Logged)
24/05/2012 21:14
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CardiffWilt
I wonder if they should offer the Sunday Farmer's market that camps on the pavement across the river some of the car park; but then the clubhouse doesn't open on Sundays so there'd be no income from passing punters.

I suggested this could be incorporated into match days/Supporters' village.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
ATTR (IP Logged)
24/05/2012 22:32
Quote:
bloogoo
Good points raised. But, will those in charge with stubborn agendas that refused to make an effort with CCS be willing to take on such obvious, yet revolutionary ideas.
One point which has been raised on other forums is the attitude within the holy of holy's, the members bar. IMO, this should be open to all supporters on match days. It could also embrace the region itself and include history from the feeder clubs, not just RFC. They've got their own way, now it's time to win some hearts and mind's further a field. The sceptics will say it'll never work. But, lets be honest, those folk will be pushing up daisies soon and it's time to crack on and bring in new support.

Another option could be open air events/gigs. It's a near perfect location, perfect size to challenge Motorpoint but not too big like the MS.

What shouldn't happen is we just return to CAP, and it's the same as it was before we left. Opinions and ideas need to change not just the paint work and toilets.

Of course thissort of idea is exactly what the "anti-CCS" brigade were advocating. Not the specific ideas you make BUT the use of the ground 365 days a year rather than just on DMDs. So sorry to soak your chips. We have already suggested better marketing an explotation of the site.

All we ned is ideas to be put forward and supporters to work for it with the club. now where is C2A when you need it?

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
Bluestown (IP Logged)
24/05/2012 23:04
Quote:
bloogoo
Good points raised. But, will those in charge with stubborn agendas that refused to make an effort with CCS be willing to take on such obvious, yet revolutionary ideas.
One point which has been raised on other forums is the attitude within the holy of holy's, the members bar. IMO, this should be open to all supporters on match days. It could also embrace the region itself and include history from the feeder clubs, not just RFC. They've got their own way, now it's time to win some hearts and mind's further a field. The sceptics will say it'll never work. But, lets be honest, those folk will be pushing up daisies soon and it's time to crack on and bring in new support.

Another option could be open air events/gigs. It's a near perfect location, perfect size to challenge Motorpoint but not too big like the MS.

What shouldn't happen is we just return to CAP, and it's the same as it was before we left. Opinions and ideas need to change not just the paint work and toilets.

Good post, it is difficult to move the view of some but i think you're righ that a new fresh approach is needed. CAP is an undervalued property. Irrespective of the Blues more should have been done with it in recent times but now the Blues are there lets get more use out of it.

I think we should encourage ideas, and promote CAP as much as possible and don't worry about those who just want to keep things back 15 yrs ago.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
cardiffsteve (IP Logged)
24/05/2012 23:58
Quote:
Bluestown
Quote:
bloogoo
Good points raised. But, will those in charge with stubborn agendas that refused to make an effort with CCS be willing to take on such obvious, yet revolutionary ideas.
One point which has been raised on other forums is the attitude within the holy of holy's, the members bar. IMO, this should be open to all supporters on match days. It could also embrace the region itself and include history from the feeder clubs, not just RFC. They've got their own way, now it's time to win some hearts and mind's further a field. The sceptics will say it'll never work. But, lets be honest, those folk will be pushing up daisies soon and it's time to crack on and bring in new support.

Another option could be open air events/gigs. It's a near perfect location, perfect size to challenge Motorpoint but not too big like the MS.

What shouldn't happen is we just return to CAP, and it's the same as it was before we left. Opinions and ideas need to change not just the paint work and toilets.

Good post, it is difficult to move the view of some but i think you're righ that a new fresh approach is needed. CAP is an undervalued property. Irrespective of the Blues more should have been done with it in recent times but now the Blues are there lets get more use out of it.

I think we should encourage ideas, and promote CAP as much as possible and don't worry about those who just want to keep things back 15 yrs ago.

I'm not one for assuming what other people are thinking - but I strongly suspect you'd find that most of those who were strongly in favour of a return to CAP don't "want to keep things back 15 yrs ago", quite the opposite.

Everyone I know in favour of playing at CAP wanted to see the ground renovated - as a minimum - if not completely redeveloped to make better use of it's location.



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Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
ATTR (IP Logged)
25/05/2012 07:31
Quote:
cardiffsteve

I'm not one for assuming what other people are thinking - but I strongly suspect you'd find that most of those who were strongly in favour of a return to CAP don't "want to keep things back 15 yrs ago", quite the opposite.

Everyone I know in favour of playing at CAP wanted to see the ground renovated - as a minimum - if not completely redeveloped to make better use of it's location.

Spot on! Part of the argument was / is that CAP was never used properly by Cardiff RFC Ltd. We have it 365 days a year and need to fully exploit that.

Do we need to open the members' bar to everyone to achieve that? Well it would not be a "Members' bar if we did.But that is not the point. As long as we cater for ALL with suitable facilities for both members and non-members. I see no problem with keeping the Bar "sacred".

It should be noted that most clubs I ref at have a Private Members bar Into which match officials along with a few guests are invited. So Cardiff is not "special" in that sense. Even at the CCS there was the "Special area" for the Premium supporters that we oridinary folk were excluded. So I'd not get too excited about that.

However, it is right that the club examine every idea to progress the club. We should dismiss nothing until the evidence for and against have been properly examined and a conclusion as to the viability of an idea has been established.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
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25/05/2012 11:58
Yesterday chief executive of the Cardiff Blues, Richard Holland said the long-term vision for developing the Arms Park site, if realised, would be a major boost, not just for rugby, but the city in general.

He said: “There is an offer on the table from the WRU to acquire the ground from the Athletic Club. If agreed there is a fantastic long-term vision to develop the site, with rugby at its very heart.

“We are keen for discussions between ourselves, the WRU and the Athletic Club, to be concluded, so we can take forward these exciting plans.”



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Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
25/05/2012 12:47
Very exciting times for rugby in Cardiff. Common sense has prevailed.

The above has been doing the rounds for some time, but it's encouraging to see Dickie talking to the press about it.

Supporters voted both with their feet and their voices. Hopefully the club will begin a new era with the supporters at its heart.

Who would have thought I'd be so optimistic following last season!

Oh and it's good to have you back ATTR!

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Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
wales606 (IP Logged)
25/05/2012 12:58
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theArmsPark.co.uk Admin
Very exciting times for rugby in Cardiff. Common sense has prevailed.
The above has been doing the rounds for some time, but it's encouraging to see Dickie talking to the press about it.

Supporters voted both with their feet and their voices. Hopefully the club will begin a new era with the supporters at its heart.

Who would have thought I'd be so optimistic following last season!

Oh and it's good to have you back ATTR!

If CAC make the deal, what do CRFC get out of it? - Im assuming they get paid for the lease but still maintain the deal to use CAP for games and get a heap load of cash to improve the stadium and pay off debts.

Will be interesting to see what happens, but the WRU certainly have the financial clout to start making money out of CAP.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
ATTR (IP Logged)
25/05/2012 14:44
It should be a win win. CRFC Ltd gets an improved stadium, the right size and in the right place. No more payments to CCFC so a chance to build the club. The dynamic between CAC and PT will change. So the petty nonsense between the two should end and that will be a major WIN for everyone.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
ATTR (IP Logged)
31/05/2012 09:28
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MJD42
Wouldn't have a problem wit selling the stadium name provided arms park is in the title, eg EADS Arms Park.

The owners may object to that. I'd object to that particular company but not the idea in principle.

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
MJD42 (IP Logged)
31/05/2012 10:15
After having a look at EADS and what it does I would agree with you ATTR. I am not 100% sure but isn't the EADS shirt sponsorship and canterbury kit deal up at the end of the 12/13 season?

 
Re: Working From Home: Making Money at the Cardiff Arms Park
ATTR (IP Logged)
31/05/2012 10:27
To be honest I don't know.
We can't be too picky when it comes to money, but I do hope we find a more morally acceptable company when the deal expires.

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