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Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
By Patrick
July 8 2009
The British and Irish Lions managed to keep their heads held high after ending the fantastic if ultimately disappointing series with a 2-1 narrow loss to the Springboks. Here’s our verdict on the squad, and how the players got on.
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Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated

The British and Irish Lions managed to keep their heads held high after ending the fantastic if ultimately disappointing series with a 2-1 narrow loss to the Springboks. Ian McGeechan and Gerald Davies went all out to restore the Lions' ethos on this tour, and did so by commendably immersing the players in local culture and introducing a back-to-basics policy on the tour. The squad of players performed admirably and although the Lions eventually ended up coming away as part of the losing side, they played their part in a memorable tour that was in the balance the whole way through, doing the Lions brand no harm at all.

Here’s our verdict on the squad, and in particular, how the England-based Lions got on.



UGO MONYE:
Deserved the Test shirt after strong performances leading up to them, however one glaring error with the try-line begging blotted his copybook. Made amends with a 70 metre interception try in the third Test that practically sealed the win and ended up the Lions’ top try scorer with five. B

RIKI FLUTEY:
Must have been frustrated to have a chance to stake a claim for the Test jersey robbed because of a nagging injury. When he eventually took part in the Third Test, he didn’t disappoint and put in a very strong showing. B

HARRY ELLIS:
Put in two good performances prior to the Test matches, both behind struggling packs. Will either provide speedy service or marshal his forwards to keep the ball tight when required. Had to settle for a bench spot in the Tests but eventually got onto the pitch in the third. B

ANDREW SHERIDAN:
With all the hype surrounding his fellow contender for the loosehead jersey, Sheridan made sure to impress when he was given his chances. This was particularly noticeable in the Test matches where he looked fired up, whilst performing well in the scrum and putting in a few powerful charges with ball in hand and big hits in defense. A-

PHIL VICKERY:
All the headlines were about his capitulation at scrum time during the first Test and he will have been mighty relieved to have gotten a chance at redemption in the third. Performed fantastically well in the build up to the Tests, both in the tight and the loose and must have erased all the demons in the Third game against the Springboks. Total commitment and a great leader. A-

TIM PAYNE:
Arrived as a late injury-cover for Andy Sheridan and got his first start a couple of days after getting off the plane. Held up extremely well under the circumstances and can be pleased with his cameo appearance. B

LEE MEARS:
Firmly established himself as top in the pecking order after some fantastic matches early on against the Lions and the Cheetahs. Excellent lineout accuracy and work around the park, he even managing a try in the process. Will feel aggrieved to never be heard from again after a below-par 40 minutes in the first Test, but should be very proud of his early efforts. B

SIMON SHAW:
Finally made his Test debut for the first time in twelve years of touring with the Lions, and was never going to let his opportunity pass with a whimper. Played the game of his life, particular in the second Test with an immense performance. Blotted his copybook slightly with the yellow card in the final match but did himself proud. Should have started the first Test. A

TOM CROFT:
Was mystifyingly left out of the original squad but proved what a bright future he has ahead of him. Superb against the Golden Lions as well as in the first two Test matches, claiming two tries in Durban. Great work-rate around the field, coupled with pace and athleticism at the lineout proved a potent weapon for the Lions. A-

JOE WORSLEY:
After a slow start to the tour, was given his Test debut in the Third Test and was part of a trademark huge defensive effort. Was referred to before the tour as a tree-cutter and put in a performance to do the tag justice. Even had a couple of rumbles in attack. B

LEE BYRNE: Started strongly in the early stages of the tour showing what a classy operator he is, and almost single-handedly offering a get-out-of-jail-free card to his side against the Royal XV. Will be bitterly disappointed having succumbed to a tour-ending thumb injury. B

ROB KEARNEY: After stepping up into the Test arena because of Byrne’s injury, the Irishman put in three stunning performances against the Springboks. Spectacular under the high ball, dangerous in attack and solid in defense in three nearly error-free displays. A

LEIGH HALFPENNY: Another to have his tour cut short after suffering a thigh problem which not only delayed his arrival in South Africa but forced him out a couple of weeks later. Played a part in the lackluster team performance against the Cheetahs.
C

TOMMY BOWE: Made a fantastic start to the tour, managing to run the backline in combination with his centres. Proved a master at creating space for others in attack but faded by the time the Test matches arrived. Nevertheless can be proud of his performances on tour. A-

LUKE FITZGERALD: Unfortunately his most memorable impact on the tour came at the hands (fingers) of Shalk Burger. Managed to get a Test spot in the Pretoria but put in a disappointing showing with few opportunities in attack and a few defensive lapses. B-

SHANE WILLIAMS: Badly out of form before the tour even started and was given more opportunities than most on tour to turn it around. Eventually enjoyed a more than decent game in the third Test, finishing off two tries. B-

BRIAN O'DRISCOLL: A fitting finish to a spectacular season. His centre partnership with Jamie Roberts managed to achieve world-class status in the space of a couple of weeks. An inspirational presence and his skills in attack and defense gave the Springboks all sorts of problems. A

KEITH EARLS: After a nightmarish start to his Lions career, the Irishman bounced back with steadily improving performances, but was always far from a Test place given the options elsewhere. Will have learned a lot from the experience. B-

JAMIE ROBERTS: Appropriately named Man of the Series after managing to impress in every game he played and proving a real danger whenever he got the ball. Proved far too much for midweek and Springbok defenses alike, time and time again breaking the gainline and putting others in space.  A

GORDON D’ARCY: Didn’t really happen for the Irish centre. Arriving as injury cover, he didn’t hit top form against the Southern Kings and was never really in a position to challenge the Roberts/O’Driscoll axis.
C

STEPHEN JONES: Looked likely to be first choice Test fly half throughout the tour matches and didn’t disappoint. Marshaled and ran his backline well throughout the Test matches, some lovely touches with ball in hand and a solid boot to boot. A

RONAN O'GARA: Rightly or wrongly, will be remembered by many as the man who gave away 10 points in the latter stages of the second Test costing the Lions the chance to win the series. Defensive issues remain and never really got going on tour. C

JAMES HOOK: Was unlucky not to get a cap in any of the three Test matches, and performed well on tour. Question marks remain about his ability to really control and close out a game, after his loose kick in the closing stages of the Emerging Springboks match handed the home side their chance for a draw. B

MIKE PHILLIPS: Combatitive is surely his middle name. Managed to improve both decision-making and speed & quality of service as the weeks went on, although still plenty of room to improve in that area. Sometimes takes too much on himself but was a constant threat to the Boks around the fringes. A

MIKE BLAIR: Clearly not part of the management’s plans at the start given his injury-based call-up to the squad. After a poor Six Nations, the Scot showed no signs of getting his form back after an awful start in Lions colours, and he rapidly faded away from the Test reckoning. C

GETHIN JENKINS: As always, phenomenal work-rate around the pitch for a prop, be it hitting rucks, putting in vital tackles or carrying the ball effectively. Played his part up front in the tight until a fractured cheekbone ended his tour before the final Test. A

ADAM JONES: Instantly stabilised the scrum on his introduction to Lions Test rugby and was more than capable of handling whatever ‘The Beast’ threw at him, if not managing to inflict a bit of damage of his own. Went into the second Test as first choice tighthead before injury struck and he was ruled out of the remainder of the tour. A

EUAN MURRAY: Played more of a supporting role in proceedings and didn’t get many opportunities to push for a Test spot before injury struck. A perceived lack of skills with ball in hand might have cost him in the eyes of the management. C

JOHN HAYES: Like Payne, also arrived late in the tour, this time for the injured Euan Murray. Performed well in the match against the Emerging Springboks and even got match action in the Third Test match as a replacement. B

MATTHEW REES: Was judged to be more solid in the scrum than his English competitor at hooker and was given his chance in the Test matches in the second and third games. Lineout was mostly hit and miss, but was part of a pack that was on the front foot and had a solid all round game. B

ROSS FORD: Got a call up to the squad at the expense of the injured Jerry Flannery. Poor performances early in the tour seemingly earned him a place on the bench in the second and third Tests. Came on in Johannesburg and did the basics well. B-

ALUN-WYN JONES: Put in decent performances in the early tour matches, but perhaps too slight a figure in the first Test, Jones is nevertheless a name for the future and already touted as Wales captain. Things didn’t really happen for the lock after the first Test and the balance in the lineout and scrum was improved immeasurably when Shaw was brought in. B-

DONNCHA O'CALLAGHAN: Captained the Lions in the match against the Southern Kings and led from the front, giving the Lions management a few headaches when it came to Test selection, particularly in an area as competitive as who to partner O’Connell in the second row. Had to settle with a bench spot in the first Test. B-

PAUL O'CONNELL: Captained the Lions to a stunning third Test win, although his form didn't consistently hit the heights some had expected. Sadly not as influential at the lineout as he would have hoped against Victor Matfield but nevertheless led from the front and never took a step back. B

NATHAN HINES: His ban for a dangerous tackle against the Emerging Boks effectively ended his hopes of a possible Test appearance, but his physicality around the field had placed him in the mix early on. A committed competitor in every game he played. B

STEPHEN FERRIS: Was enjoying a fascinating tussle with Tom Croft for the number 6 Test shirt before injury cruelly took the Irishman out of the Test reckoning. Performed very well when he was on the field though.
A-

DAVID WALLACE: Won his battle with Martyn Williams for the opening two Test match shirts with the selectors no doubt looking for balance in the backrow with Croft on the blindside. Offered a powerful carrying game and was solid in attack and defense. B

MARTYN WILLIAMS: A totally different type of player to Wallace, he was eventually given the chance in the backrow in the Third Test and didn’t disappoint even coming up against the outstanding Heinrich Brussow. Quick to the break down, influential in attack and a thorough nuisance to the home side all afternoon, winning a couple of turnovers for the Lions on the floor.
B

ANDY POWELL: It was always going to be a tough ask to dislodge Jamie Heaslip as the Test number 8 but improved steadily in each of his three games. Is still however considered one-dimensional offering not much more than his trademark route one approach not to mention being prone to stupid mistakes throughout matches. C

JAMIE HEASLIP: Was the outstanding number 8 of the Six Nations and looked to carry on his best work with a Lions call up. Although his early tour form was good, the Irishman was disappointingly quiet during both the two opening Tests, and only managed to finally turn it on with a colossal performance in the Third, by which time it was a bit late.
B

 

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Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
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Date: 08/07/2009 10:58

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Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 08/07/2009 16:02

My Ratings -

Monye - B as you say

Flutey - Heading for a C until his sterling work in the final Test. B. I hope the England team have taken note that he does not require a one dimensional banger outside him to perform well.

Ellis - D. Slow delivery, bad decision making and aimless kicking, just what we've come to expect from him and I'm glad fans of other nations suffered with us.

Sheridan - B+ - Some fairly quiet performances but showed his mettle in the end.

Vickery - B- - Sadly got on the wrong side of a player who he couldn't deal with (nor could the ref but see also below) but came back strong. Should be England's bench option from now on, though.

Payne - B for his one game, I'm sure he enjoyed the trip, he's now second fiddle to Sheridan (I'd prefer Flatman but there you go).

Mears - C- - Again, once his lineout was stripped away, he was exposed as having no other use in Test rugby. His inability to scrummage against top Test teams was a contributing factor to Vickery's horror show and he gets smashed in the loose by the SH teams. Hartley should replace him (Sheridan, Hartley, Wilson looks a really good front row). Mears should be confined to the bench until the game breaks up late on.

Shaw - A (but with slight reservations over his discipline). Great tour, also another contributing factor in the rehabilitation of Vickery. BUT WHERE IS HIS REPLACEMENT? We can't flog him much longer.

Croft - A- - Agree.

Worsley - B- - We know his uses, they don't fit with how I want England to play, but fair dues, he did OK.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Patrick (IP Logged)
Date: 08/07/2009 22:20

Predictable I know...

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Battering Ram Winger
Mears - C- - Again, once his lineout was stripped away, he was exposed as having no other use in Test rugby. His inability to scrummage against top Test teams was a contributing factor to Vickery's horror show and he gets smashed in the loose by the SH teams. Hartley should replace him (Sheridan, Hartley, Wilson looks a really good front row). Mears should be confined to the bench until the game breaks up late on.

What a strange argument. In other words, "once you take away one of the best things Mears offers, he's not that good anymore". I've yet to see Mears ever get smashed back in the loose. Not in England colours anyway, on the contrary he tends to make more metres than several other forwards we won't name. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on scrummaging, but the scrum was solid when it was Jenkins-Mears-Jones front row in the ten or so minutes before Rees came on.

Hartley doesn't even have good lineout accuracy to strip away in the first place (one of his typically wayward throws led directly to an Argentina try in Salta and nearly one at Old Trafford) so we'll put that to one side. Now as per your argument above, let's take away a quality he supposedly does offer, his scrummaging. Now all we're left with is the fact that he's a big lump, has a bad temperament and knock-ons aplenty in England colours. But I'm sure he'll get his chance at some point.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 09/07/2009 08:05

Ah, the old "Hartley has a temper" thing again. Funny, because whenever he's played for England I've seen teams targeting him for that, yet no reaction. And since when did having a bad temper stop you being an effective hooker? Brian Moore, anyone? Mark Regan, anyone? I want my hookers vicious, big and brutal (Moore played in a different era before you start, anyway his size didn't matter because he was five times as hard as Mears will ever be). Mears lack of physicality was exposed on the Lions tour and will be again.

His lineout isn't actually that bad, he has a few wonky moments, he's a far better prospect than Mears, who, as I said, has gone missing again the top tier sides every time he's played them.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Cornish Pixie (IP Logged)
Date: 09/07/2009 16:24

Have to agree that Mears lack of bulk does cause some issues, all well and good when he's in a Bath shirt and the team keeps the ball alive and doesnt look for contact, but thats not how England plays. Bring him on with 20 minustes to go and game is breaking up.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Patrick (IP Logged)
Date: 09/07/2009 16:30

One of our more consistent England players this season, was the form hooker in the Six Nations, one of our better players in the Autumn, great midweek on the Lions tour, and suddenly after a below-par 40 minutes against South Africa when most of the team was struggling, he's now all of a sudden no good for England, only Bath. confused smiley

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Cornish Pixie (IP Logged)
Date: 09/07/2009 17:01

Just my opinion, he does get knocked back in the tackle and i have heard the shout from many quarters that his lack of size causes issues in the scrum, particularly for Sheridan

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Patrick (IP Logged)
Date: 09/07/2009 17:07

Quote:
Cornish Pixie
he does get knocked back in the tackle

You must have been looking at Hartley if you saw that, particularly in the Autumn. That's if he wasn't knocking on, arguing with the ref after conceding a penalty or getting turned over on the floor with ease.

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Cornish Pixie
and i have heard the shout from many quarters that his lack of size causes issues in the scrum, particularly for Sheridan

Doesn't seem to be a problem with the Bath scrum.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Cornish Pixie (IP Logged)
Date: 09/07/2009 17:17

Nope i know what mears looks like thanks and it was certainly him. Agree that he doesnt seem to have a scrum problem at Bath, but Charlie Hodgson doesnt have problems at Sale that always occur when he puts an England shirt on either. Maybe more time with the Bath props has helped them work better together, or it's just that Sheridans size (mostly his height) causes the issue - i'm not a prop so would want to speculate on the front row dark arts too much

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: SK 88 (IP Logged)
Date: 10/07/2009 14:37

Patrick, once again I broadly I agree with everthing you've said, and at least you have good and logical reasons for the views I don't agree with.

BRW, once again you've written complete diahorrea, Mears was the form hooker before the first test, and got 50 minutes with the ineffectual Alun Wyn Jones up his @#$%& before Shaw rocked up and help solidify the lions scrum in the second and third tests. Hartly, was probably most culpable for the loss in Salta, as a lost lineout cost us terriotry then points in the first 5 mins. I would still give him a chance because his weakness is fixable, whereas Mears' isn't.

As for Ellis if he'd have come on instead of O'Gara in the second test I believe we'd have won, neither Phillips nor Ellis would have missed the tackle on Jacques Fourie, never mind the moment of madness.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 10/07/2009 15:54

How is Mears' weakness fixable? Simon Shaw will be gone come the next World Cup, so we're back to the problem of his being too small in the squad? Where is Shaw's replacement because I see no locks of comparable size in the squads? Are we now to subject Mears to some Marvel Comics style growth ray? Small does not necessarily mean bad (Tom Smith is a superb example of this), but it's his lack of edge I don't like. If he was a double hard little nugget like Meaulamu (a small guy who's made out of teak, but was sometimes overlooked for a more physical hooker with a worse lineout) I wouldn't mind as much.

I realise I'm arguing against the majority on this board, but there you go.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: whingebasher (IP Logged)
Date: 10/07/2009 16:18

For a man of Mears size he is a remarkable player. He reads the game well, he is also remarkably adept at finding gaps around the fringes but he is too bl@@dy small when it comes to the top level.

It is right to say that Hartleys throwing is inconsistent, but if this is his weak point then why is he not spending 3 hours a day throwing a ball at chalk marks on a wall?

If he is doing that then its clearly not working, and England need to look elsewhere for a 2.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Cornish Pixie (IP Logged)
Date: 10/07/2009 20:14

Steve Thompson then? Ooh no, sorry, he's playing in France, where he was last year when he was called up !?!

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: PoyntonShark (IP Logged)
Date: 13/07/2009 05:43

BRW, SK88 said Hartley's problem was fixable, not Mears'.

At the risk of sounding like David Steele, I kind of agree with most opinions here. I do think Mears size causes some problems at Scrum time for England. But, there are two possible solutions to that, a)change your hooker. b)change your props. I also think it true that despite these srummaging issues, Mears is currenty the best Enlgish hooker so deserves his place. For upcoming AI's I would be selecting Hartley to start, not because Mears doesn't deserve his place, but we have to learn if we think Harltey is likely to realise his potential at test level. We have to develop more than one option, international players do not develop by being allowed game time agaisnt Italy in 6N and Samoa in AI's

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Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: SK 88 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/07/2009 13:15

Poynton Shark, spot on.

BRW, try reading what the post says not want what you want it to say.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: whingebasher (IP Logged)
Date: 14/07/2009 15:13

The way to learn if Hartley is up to it, is as you say, to start him in several Tests.

I just wish theyd get on with it. They could have done it a year ago.

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Patrick (IP Logged)
Date: 14/07/2009 19:40

Quote:
whingebasher
I just wish theyd get on with it. They could have done it a year ago.

During and straight after a season of high quality ND1 action? Right. They did the sensible thing and brought him off the bench throughout the 6N and AI's, letting him get used to Test match rugby, whilst Mears who was and still is the best English hooker around, got the starts he deserved.

But why let the facts and common sense get in the way of a predictably boring whinge from our resident whinger?



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Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: SirBurger (IP Logged)
Date: 14/07/2009 23:11

I am English, but this is just biased beyond belief. Heaslip a B and Sheridan and Vickery an A-? There is no way that Heaslip performed to the same level as Harry Ellis! Ridiculous!

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: matelot22 (IP Logged)
Date: 14/07/2009 23:39

Quote:
SirBurger
I am English, but this is just biased beyond belief. Heaslip a B and Sheridan and Vickery an A-? There is no way that Heaslip performed to the same level as Harry Ellis! Ridiculous!

I don't fully understand your post, are you complaining that Vickery and Sherian were rated too high, and/or that Ellis was better than Heaslip? I would say that Heaslip never had his greatest games, but did Ellis? Are you a Tigger perchance?

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: whingebasher (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2009 14:00

Quote:
Patrick
Quote:
whingebasher
I just wish theyd get on with it. They could have done it a year ago.

During and straight after a season of high quality ND1 action? Right. They did the sensible thing and brought him off the bench throughout the 6N and AI's, letting him get used to Test match rugby, whilst Mears who was and still is the best English hooker around, got the starts he deserved.

But why let the facts and common sense get in the way of a predictably boring whinge from our resident whinger?



I think Hartley needed more starts.

You dont.

Cant you just be happy with that, and not start throwing your toys around again?

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: Battering Ram Winger (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2009 15:43

Quote:
SK 88
Poynton Shark, spot on.
BRW, try reading what the post says not want what you want it to say.

What I want you to say is -

"Yes, BRW, you are right! How foolish of me to ever have held a contrary view to your visionary mind. In fact, I wish to learn at your feet, oh Supreme Master. Also, here is a cheque for £1m as a payment in thanks for you having lifted the clouds obscuring the truth and light from my befuddled mind. Now, where is my free "Harris Ellis is rubbish" T-shirt and the beanie hat with "Hartley is the answer" on it for I must don the ceremonial garb and go forth into the streets to proclaim the one true way of the Battering Ram Winger and strike fear into the hearts of false prophets and the followers of the great Satan that men call Mike Tindall and also his accomplice, the lesser Satan Jamie Noon."

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: arquero (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2009 15:52

Have I misread your post, or is that rather a lot to put on a beanie hat?

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: whingebasher (IP Logged)
Date: 15/07/2009 16:07

(Sm1)

Re: Lions Tour 2009: How the English players rated
Posted by: SK 88 (IP Logged)
Date: 25/07/2009 12:58

Very good BRW, I'll send you one of my Andy Is Goode T-Shirts as payment for the beenie and shirt.

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