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Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19

Notts snatch late Win
By woll & woll jnr
January 11 2009
The harsh fact was that with six minutes remaining, Nottingham still hadn't found a way through some stubborn Cornish rearguard action and looked very unlikely too without divine intervention at least twice, and despite a late surge by the home pack.

In the aftermath of a match that had taken until after the break to really come to life, there is no doubt that the Pirates will feel a little aggrieved by what eventually transpired. Though this frustration has to be tempered by thoughts of their own misjudgements that put themselves under pressure, where before there had been little of real significance.

True; the Cornish pack had been pushed around at scrum time all afternoon. But with Evans and Morgan in particular putting in the overtime all over the shop this inequality seemed to be less of a consequence as the Pirates deservedly went into the last ten minutes with a ten point leading margin.

Quite how things disintegrated is a mystery despite one or two possible pointers. When a kick ahead by Tuohy as the Pirates pressed for more, defied the elements and went dead; you'd have still bet your grandma's teeth in the bedside glass that a reverse was highly unlikely. The triple substitution that saw the integral part of the Pirates ascendancy; Griffiths & Jones, replaced by the fresh legs of Fairhurst and Whatling shouldn't have posed any problem. Though I'd have been tempted to keep them there as they were on the pace and buzzing. But then the usually more composed Whatling's loose kicking away of vital possession at the death did grate on the fillings.

On the flip side, Mr Doyle's decisions to firstly award the penalty try; turn to his assistant whose view couldn't have been any more conclusive than his own for the second try, and then be conned by Montagu's appeal for the ball being taken out when the Pirate in possession was clearly 2m in play on the final play all appeared  shocking on the face of it. However, a little more savviness, and the ability not to become rabbits dazzled by headlights for a couple of minutes more would have prevented 4 certain points turn into 1 so cruelly.

A scrappy first half had given little indication of the eventual outcome as both Tonks and Jones managed only a pot each from seven attempts. To be fair to both a swirling breeze at ground level disguised matters from the comfort of the stand, and Jones too only narrowly missed a couple from inside his own half as his recent 100% prowess faltered slightly.

As it was the Welsh youngster had to settle for just the solitary flag raiser on four minutes which gave the visitors first blood and a lead they were to hold for twenty or so minutes, as Tonks too struggled to find his range.

Away from the kicking tee it was the Pirates who enjoyed most of what few spoils were on offer and came closest to scoring the first try soon after taking the lead.

Nottingham had made their first serious incursion into Pirates territory and spun the pill out to their left. McAtee read the situation well and found himself in the right place at the right time to begin the move of the half midway inside his own 22. With the Green & Whites caught wrong footed and hurriedly switching into defence mode, the Whippets' intitial burst made good forward ground before he was finally halted and forced to offload.

With the hosts able to regroup momentarily, the travelling 300+ fans were still able to roar on some swift handling that saw Tuohy wide on the Pirates left and with the line beckoning. The try though never came as some last ditch Notts tackling bundled the Irshman into touch barely 3m from glory.

The tone seemed set and but for a forward pass by Tuohy to McAtee with a clear run to the line from halfway the Pirates may have been out of sight before half time.

This was as close as either side came to breaking the whitewash in a first period that ultimately petered out and run out of breath completely at 3-3 with players beginning to drop like flies. Notts scrummy Usasz was the first to fall over, following yet another Notts knock on when in attack. Though he was ably replaced by Pilgrim.

Worringly for the Pirates, Betty had to be stretchered off with a convincingly rumoured broken peg; though this later happily transpired to be nothing of the sort, with Sam witnessed upright and on his feet without aid later on. Motusaga stepping up to the breach in his absence

Mr Doyle therefore saw little option but to blow up and send everyone in to have a re-think. Although not before McAtee took a knock late on and was to take no further part also; Moore appearing after the break to try and inject that elusive spark.

Whether James can take any responsibility is best left to those more in the know, but it was clear that something must have been added to the tea as both sides looked that more potent. Tonks and Jones too found their length and line, as a couple of penalties each in the first fifteen minutes or so tripled both teams points tallies, yet failing to seperate either; the scores still level at 9-9.

The Pirates though were still edging matters should it come to taking the decision to the judges, and it was they who looked most capable of scoring in a more enterprising manner.

On the hour then and it was the ever slippery Griffiths who provided the moment that should been the turning point that finally turned the game. Picking the ball inside of Nottingham's 22, his run took him into some space heading towards the right of the uprights which grew even wider as the defence stood back and admired. By the time there was any reaction from the men in Green it was too late as Nicky dived triumphantly through the late and futile resistance.

Jones' conversion was straightforward, and his points tally increased by three more only four minutes later, as the homesters looked all at sea and bereft of any clue as to how to respond, let alone find the two scores necessary to reverse the seemingly destined defeat.

Then it all went Pete Tong as the previously described errors and possible injustices all conspired to deny the Pirates one last chance to redeem themselves as they eventually regained possession from the final restart at 19-23 down.

Winning a scrum well inside the Nottingham 22 the Pirates resisted the shove sufficiently and worked the ball out to their left with Vakacegu & Tuohy ready to pounce. The tackles flew in and it looked as if touch would be found but for some quick hands in contact that saw another phase surely being set up. Alas, what may have been a lucky escape in the end was denied as the officials fell for it and halted proceedings there and then.

A shame in many ways and several Notts fans commented post match to me personally that the Pirates had been robbed which could be seen as giving sway to this. But if only the 'goods hadn't been on clear view on the back seat' in the first place!

 

Cornish Pirates: 19
15 M. Vakacegu 14 B. Tuohy 11 R McAtee
13 P. Devlin 12 T. Luke
10 R. Jones 9 N. Griffiths
8 M Evans 7 S. Betty 6 C. Morgan
5 B. Gulliver (capt) 4 S. Raven
3 S. Heard 2 R. Elloway 1 P. Cook.

Replacements: 16 D. Seal 17 P. Andrew 18 I. Motusaga 19 S. Whatling 20 E. Fairhurst 21 J. Moore 22 S.Winn

Try: Griffiths
Con: Jones
Pens: Jones 4
 

Nottingham: 23
15 Savage 14 Jackson 11 Dodge
13 Cobden 12 Tonks 10 Taylor 9 Usasz
1 Parr 2 Duffey 3 Cole
4 Morley 5 Rouse
6 Hammond (Capt) 7 Sherriff 8 Montagu

Replacements: 16 Fowkes 17 Harris 18 Hemingway, McDonald, 19 Elphisnton 20 Pilgrim 21 Youngs 22 Thompson

Tries: Penalty, Montagu
Cons: Tonks 2
Pens: Tonks 3


Referee: JP Doyle
Touch Judges: Adrian Hartwell, Rhys Davies

 

Attendance: 1705

 

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Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Unofficial Pirates (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2009 21:10

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Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: 1spy (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2009 21:19

Another first class report.Hope our coaches read the reports by Woll, Yogg and Ladock Pirate !

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: MrWu (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2009 21:21

Sorry if I'm being thick, but from your report I'm unclear on the 3 supposed injustices i.e. the penalty try, Nottingham's second try, & the 'ball out of play' incident. In each case, what happened & why, in your view, were the decisions wrong?

Thanks,

Warren

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: woll (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2009 21:49

The PT seemed harsh although being at the other end at that moment I can only go by others opinions on that one, and besides the mysteries of the scrum I have to leave all but those that do it/have done it to pass judgement. It was the moment of good fortune Notts needed.

The second try: well, Mr Doyle was all but in the pile of bodies and if he didn't have a clear view, how on earth could his assistant have had a better one; more so when Sir was between him and the mass?

As for the ball out of play...well it all happened right under my feet on the sideline. Now I may need glasses...but only for reading...

If any of these situations had been reversed would you not be questioning any? Quite ;o)

It's not as if I've allied myself to some of your own fans views that the Pirates had been robbed, although that would be understandable. We got beat as much by our own naivety at the end when with a little more savviness the win was in the bag.

Am I sore? You better believe it. But those three events were firstly pivotal, crucial, and then finally frustrating that we couldn't have one final go. I'll live with it but maintain they were worth noting.

Cheers
Martin

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If you're going through hell...keep going



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Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Northern Pirate (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2009 22:01

Woll is always fair in his reports on matches, the ball that was given out was 2 feet inside the line and Notts fans came up to me and said the Pirates were robbed.Enough said, good luck to Notts next season.NP

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: harbourview (IP Logged)
Date: 11/01/2009 23:16

Woll,
we are at the end for the PT and I would not argue. It had pushover written all over it, so if we transgressed - and we were struggling - it was a fair call.
I am dissappointed but they finished very strongly and scoring twice inside 5 mins to win the game, well, fair play to them

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: MrWu (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 06:35

Woll - calm down - I wasn't there and wasn't questioning your assessment, just asking for clarification of what you think was unfair.

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: *Stalwart (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 08:41

I wasn't there either - and this kind of call (penalty tries, ball "held up/grounded") are often contentious.
That said we should, by all accounts, have closed the game out and made several crucial errors (some, in my opinion, made by the coaches) which gave Notts their chances in the dying moments.
In fairness we have been decimated by injuries to some very key men, especially in the pack, and it was a superb effort to almost pull off a brilliant win.

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: woll (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 10:05

Mr Wu: Perfectly calm old chap if gutted. But blushing that I selected the wrong 'smiley' at the end of the post that may have given a different impression.

I was reluctant to make any deeper assessment of those moments as I didn't want to be judged as being a sour grapes loser. That said one or more were contentious and all needed to be mentioned for reference.

Ultimately prevention is a far better measure than cure. In other words our woes came as a direct result of our actions and decisions rather than the moments themselves.

Good luck for the rest of the season because believe it or not I have a lot of time for Nottingham. Losing 4 on the bounce and 5 of the last 7 meetings speaks volumes as to where both teams are at the moment even if the margins are relatively small. I have been one who was not surprised by your emergence since last season. Long may it continue (though not at our expense all the time), but be very afraid if we get drawn in the cup ;o)

If you're going through hell...keep going

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Yog (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 10:08

Great report as always Woll.
I enjoy reading these reports as on away trips I allow myself to get caught up in the moment, and it is a good reminder of some of the specifics of what happened.

I had real doubts about a Pirates win on Sunday, so it was even more gaulling to have led all the way through the match, only to lose it in the last minute or so.

On the penalty try, I really can't have any complaints. Nottingham had been dominant in the pack all afternoon, and after a couple penalties right on the Pirate line, it was just a matter of time. Considering the pressure that was constantly on the Pirates pack, I don't see many referees not giving it.

In the same way it was a wayward Pirate kick that led to Nottingham's second try. Nottingham had just shown they were extremely dangerous when camped on the try line, so the absolutely last thing we wanted to do was to concede 20 yards and invite them to set up camp again. Was the ball held up ? Well, when an obviously strong pack put the ball so far over the line like that, rightly or wrongly, I think the moral decision is that it is a likely try.
Being in the relative calm of the stand, without opposition players trying to grind you into the mud, it seemed obvious that with less than two minutes to go, the thing to do would have been for the Pirates to stick the ball up their jumper and play pick and drive till the clock ran out, but in the heat of the moment Brian Tuohy decided the best thing to do would be to get the ball as far away from the Pirate line as possible. Understandable, but in the end very costly.

Personally I think it was a cracking game, a lot of hope, uncertainty, swings in the dominance of play between the two teams and a nail-biter of a finish.

I'm gutted as h*ll, but had a good day.

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Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Expat Pirate (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 10:19

In my opinion, THE problem was some wayward kicking in the last 10 minutes. Yes, we had to make sure we found touch, but on at least 2 occasions,we failed to send them back deep into their own half,by only making 10 - 15 metres and so gave them the field position to apply the pressure through their forwards. That was the BIG disappointment for me,because we could have avoided that.Apart from that,the boys showed terrific spirit and guts and should have held on for a well-won away win.

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Sancreed Pirate (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 11:44

One of our players who WAS in the thick of it at the end was adamant that Nottingham did not ground the ball for what turned out to be the winning "try". Sir did not see it because he didn't raise his arm immediately and it was the TJ who intervened and advised Sir to award the try.

All we can hope for is the next time we may be leading Nottingham with five minutes to go we do what the Saints did so superbly against the Tigers. They just did not let Tigers get near the ball for the last five minutes.

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B & I Cup Winners 2010

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: LadockPirate (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 12:25

Great report once again Woll. Conveys both the atmosphere and the frustration. Great display from the Pirates with such a depleted squad. It would certainly have been a huge result had we have won, but it slipped away from us.

Trying to stay positive, it shows what character this team has developed that we can go away to a very strong team and give them a full 80 mins of tough rugby. With players shortly to return from injury, and Sam Raven (and maybe a couple of others?!) joining, the rest of the season could well stand us in good stead for a better season next term. Maybe also a good cup run, so lets stay positive - this season ain't over yet...

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Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Sam Skennel (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 13:34

Quote:
northern pirate
Woll is always fair in his reports on matches, the ball that was given out was 2 feet inside the

No dispute over Woll, but while the ball may have been in the field of play, the playing holding it wasn't. he had his feet over the touchline. The TJ told me afterwards he had clear sight of the ball for the grounding, earlier, btw. He had no doubt whatsoever.

That said, the game should have been won and out of Nottingham's sight by half time, imho.



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Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Darkside (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 13:47

Reading the BBC Ceefax this morning, Assistant Coach Brett Davey says his decisions were respobsible for the loss !! How can we rely on a coach who admits that.

I know we are very short of forward power, due to injuries at the moment. But some of our current forwards fall well short of the class of some in the past - eg Villi, Joe B, Tim C.

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: *Stalwart (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 13:54

At least Brett was honest enough to admit he messed up. Hopefully he'll learn from it.

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: cheshire exile (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 14:40

What is interesting is that Brett seems to be the public face of the coaching team now. Yesterday he was much more voluble and visible than Mark and even did the talking at the post match huddle.
Don't know what's going on.

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: Sam Skennel (IP Logged)
Date: 12/01/2009 19:30

I just felt surprised that the three key decision makers were replaced in one fell swoop when the game was there for the winning.

Who'd be a coach?

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: cheshire exile (IP Logged)
Date: 13/01/2009 18:28

We all were.

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: woll (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2009 11:27

In Lukes case there may have been more of a justification as he had just taken a knock (see photo on pix where Notts player is being attended and play engulfs them).

If you're going through hell...keep going

Re: Pain at The Lane - Nottingham 23 Pirates 19
Posted by: *Stalwart (IP Logged)
Date: 14/01/2009 12:07

Fair enough - but the problem was, it seems, mainly caused by taking off Rhys.
Anyhoo - it's history now, here's to a couple of big, confidence-building wins coming up and the return of some of our injured heroes.

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