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RFU plans fully pro second tier
By BBC Sport
November 10 2008
The Rugby Football Union has proposed a fully professional 12-team Championship to replace National League Division One as the second tier from next season. If the plan is ratified, the top Division One sides this season would become Championship founder members - if they agree to turn professional. The relegated Guinness Premiership club would be invited to join them.

Championship teams would play 22 league games per season, with eight top clubs playing off for one promotion place.

Northampton Saints playing London Welsh in National One
Under the plan 2008 champions Northampton would still have had to win a play-off to reach the Premiership

The plan also retains promotion and relegation to and from the Championship from the division below, allaying fears the top two divisions are to be ring-fenced.

The RFU Council will discuss the plan at a meeting on Friday, where it may give the proposals the go-ahead.

[The plan] will give clubs more financial security than ever before and create a vibrant and viable structure to take the game forward
RFU chief Martyn Thomas

The RFU and First Division Rugby, the organisation that represents Division One teams, have been locked in negotiations over the division's future since January.

Under the new plans, the Championship would receive £2.3m per year from the RFU for two years, plus £1m from Premier Rugby - representing Guinness Premiership clubs - for eight years, as well as sponsorship and a share of the RFU's new five-year TV rights deal with Sky.

After two years, the RFU's injection would be replaced by cash given to those clubs who field England-qualified players and improve their facilities.

The first Championship line-up would include those clubs finishing in second to 11th places in National League One this season, plus the relegated Premiership team and the promoted National Two outfit.

CHAMPIONSHIP CHANGES
12 teams, down from 16
22 regular season games
Promotion and relegation play-offs
RFU funding, salary cap and minimum ground requirements
All clubs hoping to take part in the division would be subject to a salary cap and will have to meet minimum ground requirements.

Promotion from the Championship would be determined via end-of-season play-offs involving two groups of four teams, drawn from the top eight in the league, culminating in a single winner, who would go up to the Premiership.

The bottom four would play each other home and away in a relegation play-off pool, with the last-placed team after six rounds of matches switching divisions with the top team from the third tier, which will now be named National Division One.

Below the third tier, National Division Two would comprise two 16-team leagues split into North and South, with four regional Division Threes.

"The Championship will be a vital part of the structure of English rugby," said RFU chairman Martyn Thomas.

NEW STRUCTURE
CHAMPIONSHIP - 12 teams, one up, one down
NATIONAL ONE - 16 teams (five not included in Ch'ship, nine from National Two, one up from National Three North, one up from National Three South)
NATIONAL TWO - 32 teams in two leagues, divided into North and South (clubs from existing National Three)
NATIONAL THREE - Four leagues (London, Midlands, North, South West), clubs from existing National Three and below)
"For too long First Division Rugby has hovered between the community game and the Premiership, uncertain of both its standing in the structure and its future," he added.

"Now is the time to establish its rightful place. The RFU is fully committed to funding and supporting a professional and robust league, with minimum entry criteria and a salary cap, that will support the Guinness Premiership.

"That significant investment, coupled with more matches and television coverage under the Sky Sports contract, will give the clubs more financial security than ever before and create a vibrant and viable structure to take the game forward."

Last month, London Welsh chief executive Peter Thomas told the BBC changes had to be made.

"We need to move forward, the league needs to move forward, and the sooner we get clarity the better," he said.

606: DEBATE
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"The biggest fear for me is that the restructuring doesn't happen and we stay as we are.

"As we've seen this year, the league can't continue as it is. There's too big a gap between those clubs at the top and the bottom - it's uncompetitive."

If any of the 12 clubs invited into the Championship were to decide not to turn pro, their place would be offered to the next highest-ranked side in the league.

 

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RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: Unofficial Coventry Rugby (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2008 15:53

RFU plans fully pro second tier

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: Laugh Out Loud (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2008 16:01


Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: covmick1/Michael Carter (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2008 17:32

Will be interesting to see what the RFU come up with regarding ground criteria.

covmick/Michael Carter

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: tom snr (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2008 17:54

at the level of funding required cant see too many teams able to accept offer to be in the new league.perhaps when it comes to crunch time they may change their views.

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: Al from Cov (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2008 18:57

Actually sounds quite good, can't be any worse than what we have already! It will also make it more exciting trying to finish top 8 rather than just top.
Anyone know what the current funding is?

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: blue&whitephil (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2008 20:51

This does sound good to be honest,as long as the money is right.Tho if you reduce the league by the four weaker teams (all below cov) wouldnt that leave us bottom?? Oh dear we could be in trouble here! Still at least we'd still be in division 1!

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: lboromark (IP Logged)
Date: 10/11/2008 23:14

It's all very interesting. The idea of greater exposure in terms of media (sky) is a good one but the reduction of the league just a year or two after it was increased seems to show the RFU is one for short term and not long term planning.

Salary cap= good idea, depending on the level of the cap
Good that promotion/relegation isnt ringfenced, but i am not a fan of play-offs to decide anything. the fact that promotion to the premiership isnt automatic worries me. also, note the RFU funding suddenyl, stopping after 2 years....how many english players are needed to carry on and what does 'improving facilties' mean...

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: tom snr (IP Logged)
Date: 11/11/2008 08:29

at the moment very few teams could afford to join.rumour has it the only definite ones so far are Exeter,Doncaster,Leeds and London Welsh.Still a league of 4 should generate big crowds.

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: Sam Skennel (IP Logged)
Date: 11/11/2008 14:23

London Welsh can't (currently) fulfil the criteria if it includes ground capacity of 10k minimum. They can't develop that ground at all, and while 10k people *could* be at the ground, not many would be able to see the match....

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: Al from Cov (IP Logged)
Date: 11/11/2008 15:27

Cov are against the plan
Birmingham Post

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: tom snr (IP Logged)
Date: 11/11/2008 18:04

yes sam but for some reason London welsh appear to be in favour-they must have found some money from somewhere.

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: OCCovbear (IP Logged)
Date: 11/11/2008 19:35

Quote:
tom snr
yes sam but for some reason London welsh appear to be in favour-they must have found some money from somewhere.

Brentford FC?

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: tom snr (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2008 07:48

brentford need millions spending on it to bring it up to even PRL standard.Rumour is that LW have had investment of £2m this season,but still no acceptable ground to play on.

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: hipflask (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2008 10:23

FDR are recommending all clubs to reject this proposal, not sure why as yet, as it seems ok to me, may be a bit short on the pennys thou, looks like there'll be an extra .75m in the pot, but with it spread over 12 instead of 16 teams,it will help them,

woods, it's in the hipflask!(steve)

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: Sam Skennel (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2008 11:29

Quote:
tom snr
yes sam but for some reason London welsh appear to be in favour-they must have found some money from somewhere.

Talking to one of their coaces last night he admitted they would have to move. Where to, I wonder, given that most of the "London" sides have had to move out of London to play at a reasonable cost? Cov Welsh to play at the Ricoh, anyone?

(I'm joking, btw)

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: OCCovbear (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2008 11:59

Brentford FC

Quote: The vision for the new stadium at Lionel Road includes a 20,000 seat stadium for football and
rugby,
a health centre, leisure centre, social enterprise business centre, hotel and conference facilities

Not saying it's a done deal, but there's little smoke.... etc.

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: tom snr (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2008 12:31

it is only a vision which has been mooted for years.

Re: RFU plans fully pro second tier
Posted by: OCCovbear (IP Logged)
Date: 12/11/2008 14:31

So was the Ricoh.

And it's a bit more than that if you read the article (and lots more like it).

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