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Soft Tries?

Geronimo Jim
By Geronimo Jim
April 6 2009
Prompted by a message on The Tribe, Geronimo Jim discovers some interesting stats about tries scored for and against the Chiefs.

A look at some statistics

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Geronimo Jim 

I picked up on a thread (on The Tribe) that one poster felt we needed to tighten our defence next season as we concede “soft” tries. A glance at the points conceded column tells a different story on the surface at least, we have conceded fewer points than anyone other than Leeds. If there is an impression that our defence is soft it must come from somewhere.

This prompted me to try to dig deeper so I had a look at the statsbunker web site and it does raise some questions.

According to the bunker we’ve so far conceded 48 tries this season, only Leeds have bettered this, although we tie with Bedford & Nottingham. Where it gets interesting is where and when we concede the tries.

Of the 48 tries we conceded 30 of them away from home and, spookily, 30 in the second half of games.

So there is an apparent need to a) Stop conceding tries when we think the game is won (2nd half), and b) tighten our defence at away games.

The starkest statistic for me is that we have conceded 21 tries in the last 20 minutes of games, that a staggering 43.75% of tries conceded in 25% of game time. Statistics don’t lie (yes I know they can really!) so it would seem self evident that the perception that we go soft late in the game is true or that we simply aren’t as fit as other clubs in the league (I don’t think so).

Here’s an interesting point though, Leeds aren’t massively better in the last 20 minutes averaging 39%. Maybe it’s a concentration thing?

In attack we’ve scored 137 tries, 75 at home 62 away, with a mere 26% in the last 20 minutes. It does seem like we lose interest.

I think that the solution is easy, play hard for the first 20 MINUTES and last 20 minutes......

  

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6 Apr, 2009 21:32 Report
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7 Apr, 2009 11:42 Report
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Hi guys,

As I have already said on other threads for me this has blighted the season giving away soft points and letting teams back into games. Certainly in recent times we have let teams back into games Nottingham for example I am well aware of the quality of the side but if you look at the nature of their tries they could be described as soft.

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7 Apr, 2009 19:14 Report
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Isn't the last twenty minutes when we see a lot of replacements?

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7 Apr, 2009 19:31 Report
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The last twenty minutes when fatigue sets in and concentration levels are harder to maintain leading to more mistakes and therefore more opportunities. Hence the fresh legs and minds being added in the last twenty.

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7 Apr, 2009 19:34 Report
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fair point wordsmith, but our fresh legs dont seem to bring better or even equal brains. ill agree with moorsman on this one - our subs dont seem to improve things at all. focus has gone on a number of occasions this season when replacements flood on.

and frankly, if they cannot go 80 minutes in a match then they arent professional (knocks aside)

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8 Apr, 2009 06:39 Report
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"The last twenty minutes when fatigue sets in and concentration levels are harder to maintain leading to more mistakes and therefore more opportunities. Hence the fresh legs and minds being added in the last twenty."

Irrespective of replacements on the ATTACKING side of the coin Exeter have scored a total of 137 tries so far with 36 in the last 20. This implies that we sit back and defend. In contrast Nottingham have scored 107 tries with 41 in the last 20 minutes. It appears that they (who aren't full time) have more gas or more ambition at the end of games than we do. They certainly aren't a better side than us (the total number of tries scored and league position proves this).

The more I look at this the more evident it is that the last 20 is where our real problem lies.

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8 Apr, 2009 07:15 Report
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We used to joke with PD last season, that he was using the second half as defencive practice.
When we had romped the first half at home many time our team sat back and let the opposition attack. This had happened this season as well to as certain extent.

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21 Apr, 2009 05:15 Report
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I have a suggestion for a new category of season ticket for next year - a half price ticket for those who just want to watch the first half of each game. This will be popular in these tough financial times. The second half against Otley illustrated the problem - no leadership on the field.

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18 Jun, 2009 21:36 Report
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I remember a soft Try we scored against your guys, it was when Rhdree intercepted a pass and ran 40 yards to score under the posts.A great Try.NP

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