What a load of crap. Did I watch the same game? We bettered you in every single facet of the game. Kicking was just one aspect and has absolutely nothing to do with the ELV's.

The reason everybody is kicking back is because the IRB have issued a directive to referee's to police the tackle/ruck are in accordance with the existing laws.

McGeechan is bleating about the same thing. Stay on your feet=no penalties!

As it happens, I agree with Geech, but it has nothing to do with ELV's but everything to do with the number of penalties awarded which is affecting the outcome of matches. Which referee's should not have the influence so to do!

Right, im on a rant so stand back! Gloucester are not set up to be a kicking side, if that was going to be DR's big tactical change for this season then he should of got a flyhalf in an Andy Goode style who can kick consistently but not much else, my personal opinion on this is if I wanted to watch a side play like Munster then I would watch Munster! Furthermore you know you have problems when Tigers are playing more running Rugby than you (with due respect to both Munster and Leicester) This brings me on to Lamby, if you are playing a structured game within the alloted template then you dont pick Ryan Lamb it is that simple. There is no point having an instinctive 10 who is gifted with great hands if all you are going to do is tell him to kick away possession. Everyone knows Lamb doesnt have a consistent kicking game so it is no good for the players confidence to select him to play a gameplan that is at odds with his natural game then compound that selection error by berating him publicly when he fails to adhere to a gameplan that revolves around a weak aspect of his game. Something needs to change because this style of Gloucester Rugby is wasting too many attacking talents I expect Sinbad had plenty of opinions on the new tactics on Friday Night as he shivered away on his wing and frankly if I was not a ST holder I dont think I would be paying to watch it either.

The rather more interesting thing is that when Glaws tried to play rugby they handed Sale two tries. When they stuck to the kicking game they did well on penalties from their ref and one of his assistants.

Why does Dean Ryan always blame his players and not himself?

No idea, and it's something I wish he would stop doing, as I'm a bit sick and tired of the indirect digs at Lamby.

If I was Lamby I would be pretty sick of it too. Dean Ryan needs to remember it is a 15 man game and there is at least one other player out of form on that pitch who has cost Glaws points but strangely DR doesn't single them out for criticism. Its very thin ice singling out a player for public criticism and if I was DR I would be stopping right now before, as they say in fairyball, he "loses the dressing room" .

As I've said on another thread, if other teams can adapt to the ELVs like Sale have, why can't we? Hopefully the whole thing will be scrapped, but we are lumbered for now and have to play the game accordingly. Blaming the players, the laws, the ref, the pitch and the weather is getting a bit boring.

It needs a good performance against Newcastle now. They are going to be full of confidence having beaten Brizzle so Glaws need to pull their finger out and start playing some Rugby.

Our unofficial report appears HERE

I nodded off after the 18th paragraph and lost the will to live soon after that.