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Argentina Demolish Ireland

Murphy's Try

By Gary Watton
October 16 2015

The Pumas outscored Ireland by four converted tries to two and five penalties to two, finishing with more than double the points of their vanquished foe. This clearly underlines their superiority, although the match did ebb and flow from one direction to the other. First the Argentinians hit the ground running in the first quarter, establishing a near-impregnable position, courtesy of two early tries, and a penalty from the lethal Nicolas Sanchez. Then the men in green awoke from their slumber and rallied either side of half time to find themselves only three points in arrears. However, just when the momentum was apparently with the Oirish, their challenge wilted and the South Americans finished the proceedings with another hatful of points.

The national team have never won a knockout match in the Rugby World Cup, and injuries to key personnel notwithstanding, this Cardiff contest represented the best chance ever for the Oirish to reach the last four and justify their IRB world ranking of three. However, the tussle was further evidence of how misleading world rankings are, as the likes of Ireland and the other home nations have a tendency to defeat southern hemisphere teams during autumn internationals when there is little at stake, except temporary bragging rights, thereby elevating their status in world rugby to an unrealistic ranking. However, when push comes to shove, in the biggest tournament of all, the southern hemisphere teams go up a level, not always seen during the autumn internationals, and the home unions have no response.

Yes Ireland could point to the missing players who could have been very influential, but it is futile making excuses. Argentina are now well schooled in their regular skirmishes with the southern hemisphere giants, and accordingly they have become extremely streetwise. They will be worthy semi-final opponents of the Aussies, and a defeat of the Wallabies next Sunday would be no shock.

Elsewhere, New Zealand trounced France. To think that some English pundits (and supporters too, now in denial) thought that England might be able to challenge the All Blacks for world supremacy. That team on Saturday night were light years ahead of any of the European nations. Only a British Lions selection might compete with the southern hemisphere's finest at present, and even this is debatable. Wales and Scotland were gallant losers, and were within a few minutes and one score of ultimate victory, but hard luck stories are all they have to cling on to. If you play well enough, you can win convincingly and therefore take the referee's decisions out of the equation. 

What now for Ireland? Well, the evidence seems to suggest that they are in their element in the annual Six Nations shindig, but glory in Europe's premier competition is clearly not a precursor to world domination. The events of September and October are a reminder that greatness in Europe is all well and good but of limited significance, while autumn internationals are overstated as a barometer of progress. Until the Emerald Isle cracks the code to the safe, they will remain also-rans on the biggest stage of all.

There is unlikely to be any post-World Cup clearance of the playing staff. Ross won't play at the next World Cup and neither will Best, but the latter is still in fine fettle, and one of the best players in the pack. He seems to be good for another couple of years. Furthermore, Murphy is not an adequate replacement at flanker. It remains to be seen whether Sexton, at 34 years of age, can feature at the next global rugby circus, while Bowe, Earls, Heaslip, and Rob Kearney may also have played their last World Cup fixtures.

Rob has been one of Ireland's standout performers over the last decade. However, he is more guilty than anyone of the tiresome tactic of launching high balls into the air, not least because he is an expert at catching them. However, it is time that Ireland ditched their Garryowens. They might be a crowd-pleaser, but they are not especially effective. How many tries have Ireland (or any of the other nations) scored in recent times from a Garryowen? Instead, resorting to this tactic sends out the message that the team in possession have no confidence in their ability to penetrate enemy lines with ball in hand, and instead of backing themselves to advance with ball in hand, they must fire a lottery kick up into the sky in the vain hope that it will create turmoil amongst the opposition. However, a Garryowen is just as liable to be a fertile means of producing a deadly counter-attack and is frequently a cheap means of conceding possession.

In the last analysis, the losers in Europe can and will only make progress if they pay close attention to the performances and strategies of their conquerors. I don't notice the Kiwis desperately launching kicks into the air. Until Ireland and the rest of Europe take a leaf or two out of the southern hemisphere manuals, they will continue to be also rans on the world stage, even though a whole array of English and Welsh pundits believe their own foolish hype.  


Argentina 43 IRELAND 20; in Cardiff; Sunday the 18th of October 2015.

15 Kearney.R

14 Bowe

13 Earls

12 Henshaw

11 Kearney.D

10 Madigan [2 penalties, 2 conversions]

9 Murray

8 Heaslip (captain)

7 Henry

6 Murphy [TRY]

5 Henderson

4 Toner

3 Ross

2 Best

1 Healy

Used replacements: Fitzgerald [TRY]; McGrath; White; Ruddock; Ryan; Strauss.

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Ireland (IP Logged)
16/10/2015 14:58
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Chiefs (IP Logged)
18/10/2015 15:33
Fallen is Babylon the great.....Whatever that tosh means!

We rejoice in the sheer joy of Ireland's humiliation at the hands of Argentina, another World Cup failure.

This must now surely place Ireland at the top the all time World Cup under achievers. Oh joy!

Time to put the Blue and White shirt away, for the Blue of Scotland, being English born to a Scottish mother, I don't expect too much, but it has already been a great day.

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pa8 (IP Logged)
19/10/2015 08:27
What ? No report Mr. Watton ?

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Chiefs (IP Logged)
19/10/2015 16:03
Hahahahaha, even reporting on Ireland's embarrassing dump out of the World Cup, this misguided individual still makes two references to England and indeed Wales with our foolish hype. Just concentrate on what Ireland do, your dislike of the English is obvious and it would appear to be eating at you. At least you have a chip on both shoulders.

I love your reports keep them coming.

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sport historian (IP Logged)
20/10/2015 11:55
Miss Chiefs, "Fallen is Babylon the great" is a biblical quotation. I wouldn't expect an atheist numpty like you to know that, dear. It was used here as a metaphor for England who take themselves sooo seriously, so seriously in fact that Mrs Chiefs cries herself to sleep every night at that nasty Deluded England item. Incidentally, sweetie, if you don't know what a metaphor is, then look it up. Even the Rastas refer to England and the western world as Babylon, but I wouldn't expect a slow learner like you to know that, darling.
It's abundantly obvious that you were so hurt by the Deluded England posting that you now must come on here and inflict your scorn. You mentioned "Ireland's embarrassing dump out of the World Cup" - not anywhere near as embarrassing as losing twice at Twickers, at home, and being eliminated with one match still left to play. Even Japan and Italy lasted longer. Now THAT is embarrassing, honey.
You must have been itching to come on here. Pity that the trouncing of France by Ireland prevented you from doing so last week! Ha!

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Chiefs (IP Logged)
20/10/2015 18:06
My husband thinks your soooooo funny. Ha.

What does metaphor mean by the way?

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P G Tips (IP Logged)
21/10/2015 17:26
Argentina were undoubtedly too strong for Ireland on the day.

However - had Ireland had their missing players on the pitch the result could well have been different. At 20-23 early in the second half, the presence of any of them, but particularly O'Connell or Sexton could have been game changing.

No shame losing to that Argentina team with 3 top forwards and fly half director of operations missing.

Ireland can & should, hold their heads high despite the disappointment.


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