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Wasps 21 Bristol 19

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By Dawson9
March 23 2009
Yesterday's game was a very odd one. Did we play well? No. Did we deserve the win? Just about. Did Bristol deserve to lose? Possibly not. If a neutral who knew nothing about rugby had watched the game yesterday, he'd probably have thought that Wasps were the team threatened with relegation, not Bristol.

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Bristol came out with a fighting spirit that they didn't have at the beginning of the season, and will now almost certainly cost them their top flight place. If they had had a decent fly-half, rather than the slightly slimmer Andy Foode clone they had out there, and if they had capitalised on any of Fatiolafa's breaks we would have been on the end of a very embarrassing defeat.

I arrived at the game just in time for kick off (the 2.54 train from Marylebone seeming to travel to High Wycombe at walking pace) and then proceeded to spend the entire first half willing our number three to turn his back to me, so I could see who the hell he was! I spent until about the 50th minute convinced it was Nick Porter, until I got a clear view of him.

Anyway, Wasps started the game in dominant fashion. For ten minutes or so we were camped on Bristol's line, but could not get through and had to take the 3 points on offer as a try would not come. Then it all started to go downhill - Fatiolafa started to rampage forward, knocking Cips back at will, Tom Voyce picked up where he left off against London Irish and waved Lee Robinson through for a try in the corner and we were staring down the barrel of a 12-6 half time deficit. Cipriani made it 12-9 just before the break but that didn't mask the fact we'd been utterly dreadful for the last 30 minutes. Our midfield was laboured and unimaginative, there was no direction from fly-half at all, and unless the forwards took the ball on, we seemed to knock on or drop the ball every time the backs touched it. Fair play to Bristol though, they played like a team fighting for survival and could have been much further ahead at the break.

At half time Walder came on for Cipriani (injury? argument? the fact he was awful in the first half?) and our attack did improve with the better service. Unfortunately, Dave had left his touch finding boots in the changing rooms and every time he put boot to ball it came off badly (run it Dave – it's what you're good at!). We did however, score two tries in the second half, inspired by Bob Baker, and Charlie Beech, the academy props. The first was a simple try in the corner for Lachlan, with the killer pass (almost Charlie Hodgson-esque I thought) from the side-stepping Bob Baker. The second arrived after good work by Dan Leo, allowed Charlie Beech to hurl himself over the line. Although Bristol scored a great try at the death through the ever dangerous Lee Robinson, making for a very nervy finish, Wasps held on for a slim victory.

I though Bristol played very well for a team where they are in the table. They scrapped and fought for the full 80 and never gave up. Wasps were poor in comparison, but perhaps our greater experience shone through in the end.

A couple of points about the game and for the future:

  1. Tom Voyce has been a great servant for the club, but with Riki and Sackey to return, he must surely find himself out of the team now.

  2. It would appear Michael Holford's days are numbered. His contract is up at the end of the season and he cannot get in the team ahead of Baker and Beech. With Porter and Lindsay around as well, I cannot see Michael being here next season.

  3. Why did Baker start? He had a good game, but I found it odd that Beech started against Gloucester yet Baker leapfrogged him for Bristol. Nick Porter to start against Saracens?

  4. Simpson and Walder please.

     


1 – Tim Payne 6/10 – Rumbled about in the loose to good effect and kept his side of the scrum up.

2 – Rob Webber 8/10 – Made huge yards in the loose, and tackled his heart out. Loves a scuffle and didn't disappoint, putting Perry on his backside to my great amusement. My MOTM.

3 – Bob Baker 6/10 – A surprising pick from Geech but impressed on his first ever appearance. Under pressure on a few scrums but did great work to set up Lachlan's try. Hopefully more to come.

4 – Richard Birkett 6/10 – Tackled everything, and nicked a few line outs. 200th appearance.

5 – George Skivington 6/10 – Did good work in the loose and a safe pair of hands at the line out.

6 – Serge Betsen © 7/10 – Did good work defensively and made a few surging runs. Tired as the game went on.

7 – Tom Rees 7/10 – Another good game. Tackled, ran, and turned over ball. What more do you want from an openside?

8 – John Hart 5/10 – Went off too early to make an impact.


9 – Eoin Reddan 5/10 – Man of the match? He had his moments, but his service can be dreadfully slow at times.

10 – Danny Cipriani 4/10 – Not a good performance. Touch finding was dreadful, and seems to be running up blind alleys. Was targeted by Fatiolofa as the weak spot in our defence. When will someone tell him the little inside pass isn't working? He looks like he needs some time out, I always believed he was rushed back from injury too quickly, and he looks in desperate need of a long pre-season to get fully fit and up to speed.

11 – Tom Voyce 2/10 – Run about like a headless chicken, and missed a very easy tackle. Outpaced by Robinson for his second try. Poor yet again.

12 – Josh Lewsey 5/10 – Was defensively solid but is an outside centre not an inside centre – just doesn't have the creativity to play 12.

13 – Dominic Waldouck 5/10 – Seems to be becoming a crash ball centre over the last few weeks whilst playing with Lewsey. Good work in patches – too many mistakes in others.

14 – Lachlan Mitchell 6/10 – Scored a good try and could have had a second but didn't have anywhere near the gas to get past Lemi.

15 – Mark van Gisbergen 7/10 – Would have had 8/10 if he hadn't messed alongside Voyce on taking down Robinson for his first try. The counter attacking ability is nearly back to his best. Brilliant to see his run with confidence again.


16 – Joe Ward (for Webber, 8-14) 5/10 – Not much time to make an impact.

17 – Charlie Beech (for Baker, 70) 7/10 – Same as Baker, under pressure in the scrums but scored our winning try, his second of the season.

18 – Marty Veale

19 – Dan Leo (for Hart, 19) 8/10 – Made a real impact breaking off the back of the scrums from the no.8 position. Was good to see him doing his usual one handed ball carrying technique without knocking it on. Nice offload for Beech's try.

20 – Mark Robinson

21 – Dave Walder (for Cipriani, 40) 5/10 – Our attacking play brightened up considerably with him on the pitch. Quick, flat service to the backline. Kicking was dodgy which was odd for him.

22 – Rob Hoadley (for Walder, 75) 6/10 – Looked more likely to break through the defence than anyone else in his short cameo. Time for a start?

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Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: DrunkenWasps.com (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 12:50

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Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: Richardwasp (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 13:42

Serge was excellent today again !!!!

Reddan was snail of the match with woeful passing most of the time

the wind was a significant factor on the game impacting a lot on DC kicks

great to see Bob Baker playing, good prospect,

Mitchell isn;t fast enough to be a winger but played ok

Voyce unfortunately needs a permanent rest

With Riki back next week, move josh to the wing and start with Dave Walder, time to rest Danny

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: Heathen (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 13:50

My team for next week, assuming no new fitness worries would be :

Giz

Sacks
Dom
Riki
Josh

Waldo
Simmo

Payne
Webber
Vicks
Shawsie
Skivs
Serge (c)
Rees
Worzel

The Joe/Dave half back pairing could work well IMHO, with the experience back in the pack and Riki to spice up the 3s.

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: Hangover (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 13:57

Fully agree with the rest but my back-row would be:

6. Haskell
7. Rees
8. Leo

(give Serge a rest this week, he has played brilliantly while the 6N has been on and deserves it)

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: St Bruno (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 14:04

I bumped into Sacks on Sunday. He was still limping quite badly. Don't think he'll be fit for Sarries, more's the pity.

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: waspMark (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 14:29

good works Dawson.

I suppose if i were being particularly generous to Voyce I'd say he did put in one absolute beaut of a touch finder - about 70 yards right on their 5m line, and had a few strong carries and might have deserved 3/10. But then to be honest I've had enough of him which is a real shame because we've all seen good players or admired players fade but i can't remember seeing a club servant (as Voyce has been) so clearly lacking in effort.

Personally I'd have no objection to the following XVs to sarries / bath within 4 days of each other:

15 Giz / Giz
14 Josh / Josh
13 Dom / Dom
12 hoads / Riki (sure riki could do with a rest but we'll need him for bath)
11 Oddjob / Mitch - we've seen Mitch, let's see Oddjob
10 DW / DW
9 Simpson / Simpson

8 Leo / Worzle - give worzle & serge a few days off.
7 Rees / Rees
6 Ellis / Serge
5 Skivs / Shaw - rest for shawsie
4 Birks/ Birks
3 Pat / Vicks - a rest for Vicks - IF Pat is fit
2 Ward / Webber - lewt webber rest up for bath
1 Payne / Payne - sorry Tim. we need you too much. maybe French otherwise

That is all assuming that sacks isn't fit and that the coaches are too pi55ed off at Hasks to pick him. Maybe he'd start 6 ahead of Ellis. It probably depends how the team feel about him.

As for Cips and Reddan - i'd put them both into the next 'A' game. Cips with a quiet word to say 'this is to take the pressure off you and let you find your rythym'. Redds with a clip rfound the ear to say 'You should have been a Lions scrum half. You've got the talent, stop flapping about and get on with it.'

It might be tough to admit but the way Cips is going we're going to be left with a shell of a player and a wasted talent. If it's neccessary then send him back to the 'A' team where he can build his confidence in his game again - or even, heaven forbid, send him out to London Welsh or Esher on loan for a few games. Not as a punishment but to completely take the pressure off him. DW can see us through with support from Jez if needed.

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: Heathen (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 15:23

Gutfeel says that Cips needs some rest to get his ankle sorted. With the screw still in there, his mobility will be restricted.

I think that if he has the summer off, gets the screw out and focuses on getting his rehab complete, including some upper body work, we could see him back to his best next season.

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Date: 23/03/2009 16:10

Quote:
St Bruno
I bumped into Sacks on Sunday. He was still limping quite badly. Don't think he'll be fit for Sarries, more's the pity.

Was he limping before you bumped into him? (Sm151)

Serge will need a rest
Voyce - needs dropping
Sacks - doubt will be fit
Walder - may not be fit

For me -
Giz
Mitchel
Waldouck
Flutey
Lewsey
Walder/Staunts (if DW/DC not fit)
Simpson
Payne
Webber
Baker (Vics to have a week off)
Shaw
Skivs
Melonhead
Rees
Leo

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: Tin Hat (IP Logged)
Date: 23/03/2009 16:36

Haskell has to be picked whilst we have a chance of HEC qualification - once that has gone then we should say adieu. I agree with WaspMark we should give Simpson and Odejobi a run. I missed Sunday - when it sounds as though Leo did well - but I don't see him as an 8.

Re: Wasps 21 Bristol 19
Posted by: Think Bonus (IP Logged)
Date: 24/03/2009 08:10

Spot on Dawson9.

With Voyce now leaving for Gloucester, what will his commitment be for remaining fixtures? Time to blood a new wing, if we have any?

Also, if the management's view was that this was a tired team (what an endictment) then why did we not play even more academy players for this match? Simpson and Ellis are two that spring to mind (with the supporters but clearly not with the management).

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