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News:Saints - get over it
By Rob Richmond October 2 2008
While the issues surrounding Neil Best's ban are still up for conjecture and to some supporters a little too fresh in the mind for them not to feel that the saints have yet again been hard done by, I urge you all to take a moment, stop, think and remember a previous occasion where saints supporters allowed a ban to very nearly end the season rather spectacularly early.
While the issues surrounding Neil Best's ban are still up for conjecture and to some supporters a little too fresh in the mind for them not to feel that the saints have yet again been hard done by, I urge you all to take a moment, stop, think and remember a previous occasion where saints supporters allowed a ban to very nearly end the season rather spectacularly early. 

I of course refer to the ban Sharky Robinson was handed in the early spring of 2005. Now the who's whys and wherefores of that situation are well known amongst Saints supporters and you certainly shouldn't need me to recall them. 

What I do feel the need to remind supporters is the reaction to the ban which held over the club like an endless black cloud for more than 5 months, indeed carrying right through to the end of that season. 

While at the time it seemed to many, myself included, that we were lost and sunk without Sharky it wasn't until I stopped and took time to watch Johnny Howard carefully that I realized what a chance it was for him to come out of the spot light and make the shirt his own. (ok it didn't quite work out for him and the reasons for this are wide and varied) 

With some careful prompting from some of the playing staff at the time I saw things that I hadn't previously noted, in fact I had taken for granted that they were naturally occurring when they weren't... Box kicks? a sharper pass from the scrum, little things were happening, the problem was that Johnny wasn't quite consistent for many to notice these things actually improve our play. 

Meanwhile the Message boards, the Bus club, St James Worky, the malt shovel, heroes and the Rodbar were all awash with supporters wanting to opine on the loss of Sharky and how we were lost, shot away, done for without this one man. 

Think back to yourself, you might of done this you may have not but many of us will have suffered from some form of doubt over the loss of one man, and lets remember he was just one man. 

Now relay this kind of thinking to today. In my opinion we as supporters can not allow it to happen again. The club has changed so much over the last 18 months its important that we adopt the right attitude and get right behind the boys as we always have before. 

Gone are the days when we relied on 4 or 5 players to play every single week, gone are the time when superstars came first and the squad men meant less than nothing. 
The Team is top of the food chain and we all form part of the team, you, me, King Carlos, Nick Greenhalgh, Lennie Newman, uncle Keith, even Mr Robson. We all answer to the Shirt and those in it. 

Long ago we forgot these things and it hurt us, really bad it lead to us murdered by a thousand paper cuts. We simply cannot allow these festering attitudes to continue because the will the way the boys play and the results we get. 


Plenty of people bask in the opportunities given to them from the RFU ruling, wondering over on a fishing trip, let them. Rise above it and support the boys. 

Look at the fantastic opportunity this is for Hoppers, Mark Easter, Alex Rae and Courtney Lawes. All of them academy lads who have come through the club system. They are going to need our backing and support, its not easy to step up to the plate but I bet you dollars to doughnuts one of these boys will make a name for themselves in the next 4 months. 

So lets not go back to bad habits lets just swallow hard, stand up straight and take one on the chin for Bestie, we all know how bad he must be feeling right now. Again while he hasn't been at the club for long we still have to take on the responsibility of supporting him regardless. He is one of ours, one of us, one of the saints, part of the team, the family dressed in Green Black and Gold. 


Whilst watching Bedford Blues take on Exeter Chiefs on Saturday I frequently recall hearing our kid tell his young charges to "calm down! do your jobs!" 

And now I call on you all to calm down and do your jobs. 

Lets get after this premiership mob and show them that were back where we belong not because we walked ND1 at a canter but because we have changed, we are better than before, the cancerous attitudes have gone and nothing will stop us all as a team, a family, a club, moving forward, taking scalps and turning heads.... 


Come on you saints!!!    

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Re: Newsconfused smileyaints - get over it
Posted by: hoddros (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:02:08:35:56

Nice article Rob.

Although, I haven't heard anyone moan about a lack of replacement for Best, it's more a case of the perceived injustices of the justice system.

Anyway, the "everybody hates us, its not fair" attitude hasn't done Alex Ferguson much harm. And, having a good old whinge every now and then is somehow pleasing to us misery's.

Re: Newsconfused smileyaints - get over it
Posted by: Robby Richmond (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:02:08:54:58

its not so much that Ken, its the concerns i have over the long term effects.

We simply cannot allow this to bring us down as it did before.
The management have taken away the excuses of the players it seems only prudent that we dont give them back to them...

The press will give it ago, questions like...

'are you misssing bestie?'
wont happen, but you will get...

(given the long term ban handed out Neil best) 'how are you coping in the premiership'
I dont see Jim falling foul of these questions but if one of our young lads is given the duty on press days....

we need to box clever now, and in part nip it in the bud too.

As for fergie, yeah, the whole world hates us has worked well for him, and wenger, and jose too, but its a different story with rugby players. Footballers are we and always will be about ego.
Rugby players are similar, but you need a bigger gamet of phycology to get in their heads.... and stay there...

Look at wasps, could the problem there be that the players need to hear a new voice after 5 or 6 years of shaun edwards gruff northern twang?

As is my motto thses days evolve or die....

applies to us too....

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Re: Newsconfused smileyaints - get over it
Posted by: Jazzman (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:02:10:10:06

A little off topic,but Robby mentions the press and there was a bizarre (sp) bit of reporting by the Beeb a day or so ago. It concerned a 62 year old chap in Queensland that the local police believed had been dragged under water by a croc/alligator. The piece read 'Mr **** *****,aged 62,was believed to be a Viet Nam veteran'.
Not what on earth difference did that make? Unfortunately he was a dead 62 year old,whether he had served in Viet Nam or not!

(Apologies Robby,not hijacking the thread to your,may I say,excellent read.)

Re: Newsconfused smileyaints - get over it
Posted by: Christy (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:02:10:15:05

It will be interesting seeing which of the youngsters have the match-winning mentality necessary nowadays, as IMHO you are born with it (a certain Matt Dawson comes to mind) and cannot coach it.

I think Wasps have been bossed around so much by Dayglo, for so long, they are taking time finding their feet without him. It can happen anywhere, you only find out just how much your colleagues did when they leave (3 of mine left yesterday, so I'm now relief Receptionist as well, which is good fun. At least I don't have to deal with the roomful of paper the accountant left.)

Rob, Hope you don't mind, I've sent you a pm re Bedford.

Re: Newsconfused smileyaints - get over it
Posted by: Rucken Mawle (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:02:11:06:27

If a player is out with a long term injury we accept it. In this case just think about it in the same way. It's a squad game now and it seems to me so far this season the Team, whoever is selected, is playing with purpose and passion. I'm optimistic whoever is playing and there are a number of quality players who will step up to the mark.

Re: Newsconfused smileyaints - get over it
Posted by: LaurieK (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:02:11:17:19

Excellent stuff, Rob, and very timely. I felt quite depressed on Wednesday about the citing process and its inequalities. But time to move on and last night helped even in defeat. The team are not dwelling on things. Nor should we. I am now looking forward to welcoming Neil back to the fold when we will probably need him even more than now.

Re Jim and the press. I have been really impressed with the way he answers questions. Polite and helpful but he does not take the bait. Perhaps UK could take some lessons.

Re: Newsconfused smileyaints - get over it
Posted by: hoddros (IP Logged)
Date: 2008:10:02:11:43:48

I just can't get myself around to this 'move on' malarkey. I am better at wallowing in self pity and this incident with Neil Best has gotten my goat. I still feel that the committee did not take his good record into account when deciding if he acted deliberately or not. But that is off topic.

Most of all it is just so annoying because we seemed to have bought in a really great back row and it has been knocked back before it had chance to gel and develop.

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