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Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
By St Jerome
September 18 2008
After a chastening defeat against Jonny Wliko last week, Saints return home to Franklin's Gardens to take on Wycombe Wasps who are also smarting having started their Guinness Premiership campaign with two losses. St Jerome takes a look ahead at Saturday's action...

NORTHAMPTON SAINTS vs WYCOMBE WASPS

GP: SATURDAY 20TH SEPTEMBER 2008

FRANKLIN’S GARDENS – 3pm

MATCH PREVIEW

 

Having tasted defeat last week Saints to Newcastle, Piggy has received so very bad news about this week . . .

Breaking News: The Gardens are in need of
Pest Control. . .

Dear Sir, we have pests visiting our gardens and wonder what pest control should we adopt . . .?

How do you control a Wasp? You take the attack to them...

Wasps are a puzzle to me. Having worked in Wycombe for nearly ten years, I realise that few in Wycombe are passionate Wasps fans. Indeed seven years ago, I met Connor O’Shea trying to flog Irish in the Town. People in
High Wycombe like the club, but there is nothing like the passion that you get in Northampton. Indeed, it is great to meet passionate Wasps fans but they are likely to come from Watford or Barnet.

Visiting Wycombe for a game, you realise that no one has the commercial acumen to get the extra out of you (unfortunately not true at FG) and they seem to pay a lot to bus fans in. Therefore, the job their coaches and players have done is truly incredible! They have lifted a small club with big debts to great heights. The question for Saints is what can we learn? Well we learnt a lot from our last meeting.

The last time we played the Wasps we lost. That was April 2007 and Saints have only lost once since. Unfortunately, that loss was last week. However just a little recap from the latter stages of that match in April 2007 (courtesy of the Times):

“Any hope Northampton had of a comeback were effectively ended when Lewitt crashed into Sackey after he had touched down, earning Wasps a penalty from kick-off. Wasps kicked play right back into Saints territory and Lewsey put the icing on the cake with Wasps' fourth try in the corner after a powerful drive forward from Tom Rees.”

JimandDorien0908The word is power. If you look at that game the Wasps team then it is virtually identical to the team that played last week, exceptions being Bracken for Payne, Flutey for Waters and the lack of Day-glo. In comparison, Saints have only seven of those players left in their Squad.

The two teams have journeyed in different directions since that meeting in April 2007, only playing each other at “A” team level. The first of those matches at Dry Leas was a reminder of what pace Wasps players can generate. However, this victory was achieved by going to ground. We must wonder whether the new directive is “Wasp Friendly”.

After the two matches, Northampton Saints meet a London Wasps team who have not started the season looking like Champions. Indeed, we are sure to hear that Wasps do not come out until spring, mirroring their insect namesakes.

Wasps are unlikely (I believe) to change their side substantially. The Gardens might not see Betsen, or more importantly, Sharky, it is likely to see a mixture of familiar names both young and old. So far, the rugby this year from all Premiership teams has been full of unforced errors. This is also true of the Saints: missed kicks, poor decisions (what was Dylan doing?) and lack of linkages. Saints have had phases in which they have gained clear ascendency. However questions remain.

The biggest question is selection. Having watched all the pre-season matches except
Cardiff I think Jim has given places to those who performed. However, is this the time to look at Air Ben II? Should Jim look again at the centre pairing, especially if JC is not fit? Could someone encourage Flash not to kick, but to run!! I would also pick Shields we need a good lineout. So are we going to come out on the attack? I hope so.

This is the middle game of the first crucial five fixtures and if we want to find out where a new team is in their progress, what better than a match against the reigning champions.
So who would I pick:

15 Bruce, Bruce
14 Ashton
13 Ansbro
12 Mordt
11 Lamont
10 Spencer
9 Foden
8 Wilson
7 Gray
6 Best
5 Day
4 Lobbe
3 Murray
2 Shields
1 Tonga’uiha

Prediction - pests controlled and a lot of lessons learnt.

 

 

pic courtesy Chris Hoddle

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Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: ComeOnYouSaints.com (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 00:21

Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: Howlin (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 00:35

Cracking preview, well done. I cannot wait.

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Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: ClaireJ (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 06:43

Cracking preview! The cameras are already raring to go.

We may have lost the last time we played Wasps but we did win when we last played them at home. 9-8 I think it was. You might recall this scene in December 2006:

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Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: ChrisG (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 08:06

8-6, I wrote a bit for the paper about it this week saying i'd settle for the same result again (but not the weather).

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: north wilts (for now) (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 08:25

oh yes - I remember (not) seeing that game on tv - hopefully the view from the tetleys (about the 10M line sturtridge side) should be better

Think the outcome will be the same though

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: Ian Spokes (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 08:31

Very good St Jerome.

I am told by one who knows that Wasps are playing in EXACTLY the same way that they always have. No innovation or adjustment for ELVs or, more importantly, protocols (by which I mean the better-late-than-never instruction to referee the game according to laws that were already there)

Is this season going to be a tough examination of the real coaching talents of our favourite whippet keeper? Or is it the usual slow start, with Saints about to be on the end of a back-lash?

Well, that's the beauty of sport - we just don't know. My guess is that Wasps may just have actually lost the plot (for the moment at least) and Saints will return to a good performance following a good chewing by Jim and Dorian.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: Dobbin (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 08:42

A terrible preview. You forgot to mention 'Oggy, Oggy, Oggy'.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: StBleach (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 08:44

I think we just might see the back lash.. not wishing to sound negative, half empty glass etc but we struggled against the 'relegation ' favourites and I cannt see Malinder improving things within a week,,, Last week's game wasnt about missed kicks - we failed to kill off a game in which we were on top and could not defend when the opposition attacked us.. Wasps will have learnt from that as they would have having watched the ease in which Wuss scored against us.. Our Wings remain vunerable.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: jdusty (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 09:05

I think this is going to be an interesting,if low scoring affair but i still beleive that Saints will come on top by 2 points, Providing the guys can keep their heads under pressure then they will do well.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: jdusty (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 09:09

with regards to the potential team, if this is your starting 15, who would be your replacements? They could be the ones to make the difference in the end.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: OggieWasp (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 09:20

Yes rubbish preview.

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Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: Connorman (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 09:51

Good previewing. Interesting centres selection. Obviously one change is forced but changing Downey suggests you agree with OSB's analysis that we need more variation though the 12 channel?

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: Wee Jim (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 09:54

Excellent preview and an interesting choice of team. It will be a challenge on Saturday and another step in the development of the squad. Cant wait!

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: St Owen (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 10:05

Good preview!

I have to admit to getting a little nervous about this one.

I will have my can of Waspeze at the ready though.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: St Marlowe (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 10:07

An Oggie, I believe is a small piece of pastry that crumbles under pressure.


Nice one St Jerome

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: OldPete (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 10:09

An excellent preview

but alas i cannot mimic the sunny disposition of Mr Spokes and his annonymous tipster - I am very pessimistic about this one

this is because any other assessment would earn the instant approbium of Shaddo and others

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: broonie (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 10:41

since monday's A league game i have been wondering if the PTB may be going to pull a bit of a flanker in the 10 spot come saturday.

it's just that the nearest to a team playing in wasps' style whom we have played in recent times was in fact wasps, or rather wasps A team, in the home leg of the A league final last year.

that evening , smyler played a combination of a long and short kicking game, with a lot of dinked passes to inside runners, with the result that the wasps 13 spent the whole game in no-man's-land with nothing to hit and the game happening narrow of him or in behind him - and dave smith got 3 tries on the left wing.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: hoddros (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 11:23

Excellent Oggie-free preview, thanks St J.

Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: oddshapedballs (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 11:35

The other thing about the A final was the physicality of the two matches.

We lost the first game because we were not up to the challenge. We just were not ready for the intensity of the game.

We obviously spent the time between the games well. We were not outmuscled by Wasps the following week. The transformation was amazing.

Let's hope that we are up for the physical challenge this week. Then we'll get to dictate the tactics

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Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: St.Rich Joe, Niamh and Sam's Dad (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 12:37

Nice read, can't add anything to the other great comments. I expect us to win. But hey I'm always like that!!!

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Re: Saints vs Wasps Preview (FG)
Posted by: St Jerome (IP Logged)
Date: 18/09/2008 15:03

Yes I believe in changing both players. Mordt played well pre-season and has played with Ansbro and Mayor.

I agree with OSB often. (Sm128)

The Oggie Wasps is a painful distraction.

I think that broonie may have something talking about a narrow gameplan. However it must be executed at pace.

Thanks enjoyed that - COMEONYOU SAINTS



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