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D day on Wednesday for FDR

FDR v RFU
By Moseley RFC
October 20 2008
This Wednesday sees the RFU sit down with the FDR to talk about its future. What will be the size of FDR at the end of this season and will this see 5 clubs getting relegated? This is the Moseley view.

How insulting is this?

According to the Chairman of the RFU Management Board, the RFU is pursuing this structure because of what the RFU agreed with the thirteen team PRL Cartel! Can’t they see how insulting this is? It was agreed without any discussion with FDR - the clubs which are affected by it - but at the insistence of the Cartel!

 

If the RFU attempts to impose this reduction without proper financial compensation, it could bankrupt some FDR’s clubs. Already we are governed by a regionally unrepresentative cartel of these thirteen PRL clubs operating in relatively small localised catchment areas of England – hardly fulfilling the RFU’s own mandate of “developing rugby throughout England”!

 

(NOTE: There are more people just in the City of Birmingham alone than there are in the towns/cities of Bath, Bristol, Gloucester, Worcester and Leicester combined - and yet they all have clubs in the PRL Cartel! Please note – we have excellent relationships with many of the PRL clubs and in particular Gloucester. We are NOT having a ‘go’ at them!

 

Ever widening funding disparity between the PRL Cartel and FDR

 

There is huge financial disparity in funding between ‘the PRL Cartel’ and ‘FDR clubs’. The ratio of direct RFU funding between PRL:FDR has moved from 2:1 in 1998 (£500K to £250K each club respectively) when professionalism came in to about 5:1 in 2008 (£13M split between the cartel compared with a reduced £168K per FDR club!). When TV revenues and other sponsorship deals are taken into account, this raises nearer to a massive 10:1 disparity. And yet at the same time ever increasing numbers of Non England qualified players are coming into PRL every year (over 50% now)! Where’s the logic in this?

 

All the RFU is doing is pumping more and more of our cash to fund the salaries of “past it Antipodeans” while blocking the progress and development of English players who increasingly are playing on FDR. No wonder the other rugby nations are laughing at us and our National Team is failing.

 

The RFU does have other funding options for FDR

 

The majority of players for the England 7s squad (at least 15 out of the 26 squad announced last week) play their rugby for FDR clubs which develop increasing number of English players. Therefore if the RFU is really serious about funding FDR properly it could start by allocating the reported £5 million in the England Academy Scheme to FDR clubs where these players play.

 

This would be instead of the current absurd situation where the RFU pays the PRL cartel for these players which promptly send them out to (and charge) the FDR clubs which train, play and develop them! This is a double income for the Cartel clubs which do relatively little to help develop English talent. How absurd!

 

What makes this so serious is that if proper funding is not forthcoming, it could have a detrimental effect on the financial stability of FDR clubs especially in these economically difficult times. Many of the teams in the upper part of the National League One table are funded by generous individuals - a number of whom have now stated they will not continue their current level of funding.

 

Moseley’s priority will be always be financial stability

 

Moseley Rugby Club has risen from the ashes by the great will and resolve of its tremendous and committed membership base after a lot of very hard work. The club’s representatives at the meeting on Wednesday will not permit our great club to be affected by financially irresponsible proposals.  

 

Moseley will get back to the top of the rugby tree at its own pace, making solid and sure progress as its goes. If the RFU wants to restrict FDR club’s income while making other financial demands it must make compensatory financial resources available. If it does not and that means Moseley Rugby Club will not be a part of the proposed new structure, then so be it. At least we will have our club.

 

 

 

Please remember this has been copied from the Editorial of the weekly Moseley newsletter. Which puts their point of view forward on the impending meeting between RFU and FDR.  What do you think??

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19 Oct, 2008 23:06 Report
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D day on Wednesday for FDR
D day on Wednesday for FDR

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20 Oct, 2008 18:26 Report
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Interesting article and tend to agree. Can you make it easier to read Frank? Some of us may struggle.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:10:20:19:49:54 by Yelverton Albion.

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20 Oct, 2008 19:04 Report
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I struggled and gave up.

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20 Oct, 2008 19:37 Report
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Re: D day on Wednesday for FDR
And you wonder why the FDR have a problem with the R.F.U. it's a bit like going to a divorce laywer for advice.

Semper Sersum.

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20 Oct, 2008 21:53 Report
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Re: D day on Wednesday for FDR
Is that better.


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21 Oct, 2008 07:03 Report
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Re: D day on Wednesday for FDR
Interesting !

The point about the population of Birmingham only goes to highlight how pathetic Mosely's attendances are. They are currently averaging just over 900 ! Until they can improve that figure I don't think they should be standing in line for RFU handouts. I can't see Mosely being included in a Pro GP2, perhaps this article is preparing their public for this eventuality.

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24 Oct, 2008 20:43 Report
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Is it all sorted now ????????????????????

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24 Oct, 2008 22:08 Report
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Don't know can't find anything on it.

Always forwards never backwards!

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24 Oct, 2008 22:51 Report
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R.T's says the FD1 have defered a decision after five hours of talks,principle reason being the amount of funding suggested by the RFU (being only about £90,000 it is believed) well short of what the ND1 clubs say is needed.

Also the PRL not agreeing to a play off situation for the FD1 , because they want to ensure that the relegated prem team have the best chance of coming back up again, for reasons not given it is thought that Exeter are of the same opinion, they meet again on the 29th October.

I can see this being put back untill next year at this rate only about nine weeks left in the year and fast approaching the end of the season for something like this.

Semper Sersum.

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25 Oct, 2008 04:24 Report
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agree - think this one will run and run

5 hour meeting - wonsounds like there was a 'hung jury' smiling smiley

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25 Oct, 2008 09:08 Report
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"for reasons not given it is thought that Exeter are of the same opinion"

Thought by whom and on what basis?

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25 Oct, 2008 09:22 Report
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From the R.T.

quote ; " I understand Exeter are also opposed" (no reason given)

Semper Sersum.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008:10:25:13:26:07 by noibla.

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26 Oct, 2008 07:35 Report
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martyn Thomas has confirmed the RFU proosal be that promotion from a 12 team first division would be via a play off system.
FDR were unhappy with the insufficient funding levels that were proposed and submitted their own proposal.
Martyn Thomas wants the new structure to be sorted out no later than NEXT WEEK!

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So still all to play for, so to speak.

Getting a bit late to finalize the number of relegations at the end of this season.

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