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By Dorset Saint
June 5 2012

As England are about to take on South Africa in a three test series, whilst England youngsters are also in South Africa for the Under20’s world championship, as well as it being the Saints off season with not too much going on here, I thought I’d try a fill the void with a topical quiz.  All questions relate to England rugby and have either some sort of South African or Northampton connection (and sometimes both). If the connection is not obvious from the question, then you have a clue with regards the answer!  All the answers are sourced from that most antiquated of mediums, a book, called “The Official England Miscellany” (Fourth Edition, Vision Sports Publishing 2011), which had facts that applied up to, but not including, the 2011 world cup. However, I don’t believe any of the answers are out dated as a result of what has happened since, although of course some questions may become outdated following the upcoming tour.   The questions are in no particular order.  

A Summer Quiz

 

 

1.

The last player to score a full house (try, conversion, penalty & drop goal in the same game) for England did so against South Africa. Who was it? 

Charlie Hodgson (in England’s 32 -16 victory at Twickenham in 2004). Only 4 Englishmen have achieved this, Rob Andrew, Paul Grayson and Johnny Wilkinson (twice) being the others. - OlneySaint

 

2.

Which player holds the English record for most number of conversions successfully kicked in one game? 

Paul Grayson (15 v Netherlands at Huddersfield in 1998) - Jon in Alaska

 

3.

What is Jannes Labuschagne noted for with regards England v South Africa international history? 

He is the only player to have been sent off in an England-South Africa international? (in 2002 playing for South Africa at Twickenham, sent off by Paddy O’Brien) - Herbiesaint

4.

Johnny Wilkinson is England’s top all time points scorer by a country mile, but who is second on the list? 

 Paul Grayson (with 400 points, 4 more than Rob Andrew) - Jon in Alaska


Who said in 1994 “Being dropped by England and Take That splitting up on the same day is enough to finish anyone off”? 

 

6.

Jack Rowell named how many Bath players in the England match day squad of 21 to play South Africa in Cape Town in 1994 – a record England representation from a single club side? 

 

7.

Who is the tallest player to have played for England? 

Martin Bayfield (played between 1991-1996, 6ft 10) - Jon in Alaska


8.

Which England player has scored most tries against South Africa in their career? 

 

9.

Randolf & Ferdy Ashton and Japie & Jannie Krige were two sets of international rugby playing brothers who have what uniquely in common? 

 

10.

What have William Milton, Frank Mitchell, Reggie Schwarz, Reginald Hands & CB van Ryneveld got in common that extends beyond just rugby? 

 

11.

Which player holds the record for most number of points scored against England in a single match? 

 

12.

Which Transvaal born England rugby international fought in the Battle of the Somme in WW1 and spent three and a half years in a Japanese prisoner of war camp working on the notorious Railway of Death in Siam (latter day Thailand) in WW2, was a finalist in the World Ballroom Dancing Championships, declined to represent Great Britain in the Olympic Games in 1920 in the Modern Pentathlon due to his rugby commitments, played rugby for the British Lions against his native South Africa, was South Africa amateur light heavyweight boxing champion in 1921, a Polo international for England, played tennis for South Africa in the Davis Cup, won a mixed doubles title at Wimbledon and was awarded a CBE in 1946? 

 Stanley Wakefield Harris (1894-1973) - OlneySaint

13.

Ben Cohen, Steve Thompson and Courtney Lawes all played amateur rugby early in their careers for which club? 

Northampton Old Scouts - OlneySaint

14.

England’s first ever match played under floodlights was against Argentina on 27th May 1995 at which venue? 

Kings Park, Durban, South Africa (In the 1995 World Cup). The first match under floodlights at Twickenham was later the same year, with South Africa the visitors. - OlneySaint

 

15.

Which two England players (one of them Saint, the other who is still on TV a lot) played their final game for England in England’s last amateur test match (the 3rd place play-off match vs France in Pretoria in the 1995 world cup) and therefore can be regarded as England’s final amateur players? 

Dewi Morris and Ian Hunter (and as subsequently revealed by Smurf, Brian Moore as well) - Smurfomatic

 

16.

Which England hooker made his debut starting in England’s first test match of the professional era versus South Africa at Twickenham in November 1995 and, therefore, can be said to be England’s first professional player? 

Mark Regan (Lawrence Dallaglio also made his debut, but from the substitutes bench) - Smurfomatic

 

17.

South Africa were the first international team to accomplish what on 4th January 1913? 

Grand slam of the home nations and  they were the first team to beat England at Twickenham (England began playing at Twickenham in 1910)  - Jon in Alaska

18.

Which player has had the joint shortest England international test career at just 6 minutes, as well as one of the shortest Northampton Saints careers at just 17 minutes? 

Matt Cairns (his 6 minute England career came against South Africa in Bloemfontein in 2007 and his 17 minute Saints career came against Leeds in the Premiership in 2009). Nick Walshe also has had a 6 minute England career following the tour to Australia in 2006, though Walshe’s 6 minutes was spread over two tests! - OlneySaint

 

19.

Which England player, who went on to play for the Saints, has had the shortest test career having started a test? 

 

20.

Which Northampton player, was first player (and, to date, one of just two players) to have been capped for the British and Irish lions in a test match, before being capped for England? 

Northampton’s own Dickie Jeeps (his England debut came in 1956). Bill Patterson of Sale is the only other player in the 1959 Lions tour to Australia/New Zealand, with an England debut following in 1961. - Smurfomatic

21.

Which is the bigger margin of victory – England’s largest ever win against South Africa or South Africa’s largest ever win against England? 

England’s largest ever victory over South Africa (50 points in the 53-3 win in Nov 2002 vs 48 points in South Africa’s 58-10 win in Bloemfontein in 2007). Thought I’d get this question in now while I still can! - OlneySaint

 

22.

What unwanted record did England avoid setting by beating South Africa at Ellis Park, Johannesburg in June 1972 and again by beating South Africa at Twickenham in Nov 2006? 

 

23.

Which England player is quickest (in terms of number of caps), to reach 100 points for England? 

 

24.

Danie Gerber & Clyde Rathbone are the only two players to have accomplished what feat in England – South Africa international? 

Danie Gerber & Clyde Rathbone are the only two players to have accomplished what feat in an England – South Africa international? - OlneySaint

 

25.

Which England player was on the winning side v South Africa in Bloemfontein in 2000, and remained so for a record further 27 successive England matches, spanning 4 years? 

 

26.

What selection sequence of 198 successive England test matches spanning 21 years from 1986, was brought to an end on 26 May 2007 when England took on South Africa in Bloemfontein? 

 

27.

What was unique about Frank Mellish’s international rugby appearances in 1921? 

 

28.

What did England accomplish for the first time in 1969? 

 Beat South Africa (at the 6th attempt). The previous 5 matches (all played in England) had resulted in 4 South African victories and one draw (in 1906 in the very first meeting at Crystal Palace). Ironically, England were to win in South Africa at their first attempt 3 years later in 1972. England have beaten South Africa 12 times in 32 attempts in total. OlneySaint

29.

Which player scored England’s first ever 5 point try? 

Ian Hunter - PelerinStJames

What world record was set when England defeated South Africa 22-27 in Bloemfontein on 24 June 2000?

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05/06/2012 09:12
Jon in Alaska's answers

2. and 4. are the same person - Larry.

7. PC Bayfield (6' 10"). Although there was Richard Metcalfe at 7', but wasn't he Scottish?

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05/06/2012 10:40
3. Jannes Labuschagne was a lumbering brute of a lock who was given a red card in the England v. SA game in 2002, for a late hit on Jonny Wilkinson.

 
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05/06/2012 12:06
15 - Brian Moore & Ian Hunter(?)

20 - Dickie Jeeps, went on the 1955 tour but wasn't capped by England until the following 5N.

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05/06/2012 12:54
2. Jon in Alaska - Yes, Larry kicked 15 conversions as England edged out the Netherlands 110-0 at Huddersfield in a 1998 world cup qualifier

3. HerbieSaint - That's him! He is the only player to have been sent off in an England - South Africa international.

4. Jon in Alaska - Yes, Larry is England's second all time highest points scorer with a nice round 400 points for England, just 4 points more than Rob Andrew and only 779 points behind Johnny.

7. Jon in Alaska - Yes it's PC Bayfield!

15. Smurfomatic - Ian Hunter is correct, and whilst Brian Moore is on TV a lot and did retire after that world cup, I can only assume he did not feature in the 3rd/4th place play off match as it's not him according to my source!

20. Smurfomatic - Dickie Jeeps is spot on. 5 players in total have toured with the Lions before being capped for England (including Will Greenwood among others), but only Jeeps and then subsequently Bill Patterson of Sale in the following Lions tour in 1959 have actually featured in a Lions Test Match before getting an England cap.

 
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Re: Summer Quiz (1)
05/06/2012 13:20
OK DorsetSaint, I assume you mean Dewi Morris. However, having recently read "Beware of the Dog" that France game was Moore's last for England...

Oh - 16 is I think everyone's favourite panto villain, Mark Regan.

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05/06/2012 14:09
Is 29 Ian Hunter too? I think I saw him play v Canada at Wembley, and seem to recall he scored what may have been the 1st 5 point try.

 
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05/06/2012 17:02
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OK DorsetSaint, I assume you mean Dewi Morris. However, having recently read "Beware of the Dog" that France game was Moore's last for England...
Oh - 16 is I think everyone's favourite panto villain, Mark Regan.

Hmmmm - my book is an The Official RFU book as well, but i'm a lot more inclined to believe Brian himself! The only thing I can think of is if Brian was substituted before the end of the France game, leaving Dewi (which is correct btw) and Ian as the only two players on the pitch as the final whistle went on the amateur game, who then retired from the international game at that moment (clutching at straws a bit)!

Mark Regan is also correct re 16, but looking into it further, Lawrence Dallaglio also made his England debut in that game - but only as a substitute, wheras Mark Regan started the game. My book doesn't mention Dallaglio - so it's probably the same reason why it doesn't mention Brian Moore (but i'm guessing a bit).

 
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05/06/2012 17:07
29 - PelerinStJames - yes it was Ian Hunter. That game at Wembley against Canada was the first England rugby international I ever attended - I thought I was going to see football. An absolutely riveting side fact is that Wembley is the only venue where England rugby have played as both the home and away team.

 
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05/06/2012 18:40
Dorsetsain - the scrum stats page for that game has only one sub being used in the match - a certain Mr Brouzet.

RFU publications can be wrong - I have a book entitled "The official RFU history" which thinks Grayson came off the bench in the 2003 RWC final! I'm sure Mike Catt loved readnig that one...

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05/06/2012 19:30
Smurfomatic - yep, the book's just clearly plain wrong in this case!

 
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05/06/2012 21:04
18 Matt Cairns?

 
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05/06/2012 21:46
13 Old Scouts

 
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17. Grand slam of the home nations?

 
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05/06/2012 21:50
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18 Matt Cairns?

Yep - his 6 minute England career came against South Africa in Bloemfontein in 2007 and his 17 minute Saints career came against Leeds in the Premiership in 2009. Nick Walshe also has had a 6 minute England career following the tour to Australia in 2006, though Walshe’s 6 minutes was spread over two tests.

 
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05/06/2012 21:51
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13 Old Scouts

Correct!

 
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05/06/2012 21:58
5. Martin Bayfield

 
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05/06/2012 22:12
14. Kings Park, Durban

 
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05/06/2012 22:13
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17. Grand slam of the home nations?

Annoying I think you're right, I say annoyingly, because it wasn't what I was thinking of!

Looking it up, they beat France as well a week later to complete the full Grand Slam on that tour, and they had already beaten Wales, Scotland and Ireland before they beat England on Jan 4th 1913. The 1905 All Blacks that preceded them had lost to Wales on their tour, whilst South Africa's own tour in 1906-07 saw them lose to Scotland and draw with England.

So correct, but South Africa also completed another first in that victory over England, that no other international side (including the home nations, France etc) had managed up to that point?

 
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Re: Summer Quiz (1)
05/06/2012 22:18
OlneySaint - 5 & 14 both correct. England's first ever floodlit match amazingly wasn't until the 1995 World Cup. The first match under floodlights at Twickenham was later the same year, with South Africa the visitors.

 
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05/06/2012 22:23
1. Charlie Hodgson

 
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05/06/2012 22:47
21. England 50 points (53-3) beats South Africa 48 (58-10)

 
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05/06/2012 22:49
Ah, OK - first time England lost at Twickers.

 
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05/06/2012 22:58
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1. Charlie Hodgson

Yep - he did so in England’s 32 -16 victory at Twickenham in 2004. Only 4 Englishmen have achieved a full house - Rob Andrew, Paul Grayson and Johnny Wilkinson (twice) being the others.

 
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05/06/2012 22:59
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21. England 50 points (53-3) beats South Africa 48 (58-10)

Correct again - thought i'd pop that question in while I still can!

 
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05/06/2012 23:06
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Ah, OK - first time England lost at Twickers.

17. You've read my mind at lot better this time Jon!

Yes - South Africa were the first team to beat England at Twickenham in 1913, 3 years and 7 matches after England started playing there. South Africa remained the only team to have won at Twickenham for the next 12 years until the New Zealand Invincibles won 11-17 in 1925, 14 matches on. The first 5 Nations side to win at Twickers was Scotland in 1926.

 
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05/06/2012 23:09
24. Gerber scored a hat-trick v England. South African born Rathbone also scored a hat-trick v England but it was for Australia where he had emigrated to so not sure on this one.

 
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05/06/2012 23:27
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24. Gerber scored a hat-trick v England. South African born Rathbone also scored a hat-trick v England but it was for Australia where he had emigrated to so not sure on this one.

Let down by my RFU book again which states Rathbone's was for South Africa! Nice that you exchange money for an official reference book which is a little haphazard with the stats (which is kind of the whole point of the book)! Running it past knowledgeable supporters in this way is probably the most effective proof reading it's ever been subjected to!

But yes, I suppose both are South African's who've scored hat-tricks against England, with Gerber the only player to have scored a hat trick in an England-South Africa international. No Englishmen has ever scored a hat-trick against South Africa (I say, awaiting people to point out the half dozen occasions where this has in fact actually happened...)

 
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06/06/2012 00:22
6. 9

 
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06/06/2012 07:13
Last question. We're England the first team to beat SA for ages setting a consecutive win record that England equalled leading up to rwc 2003?

No alcohol for January. I'm a dryathlete in aid of cancer research.

Dryathlon

 
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06/06/2012 08:20
10. Have they repreesnted their country in more than one sport?

 
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06/06/2012 12:25
27 - our Marketing Director says (and so i'm not sure if this is true), that Frank Mellish represented two different countries

sorry, should have said: England and South Africa



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06/06/2012 12:41
No.25: Matt Dawson?

 
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06/06/2012 18:39
28. Beat South Africa in a test match for the first time. (also used a squad system for the first time for this match under Don White)

 
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06/06/2012 19:13
12. Stan Harris (no record of a Wimbledon Mixed Doubles victory though!)

 
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06/06/2012 19:32
lillyg - Tell your Marketing Director he's nearly there - but there is a little more.

Sarge
On the Naughty step and wash your mouth out please.

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06/06/2012 21:16
9. One brother of each set played for England, the other for South Africa.


Nice trivia that one!!

 
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Re: Summer Quiz (1)
06/06/2012 21:37
Trying a few...

5 - Bayfield
6 - 10 players
10 - all are rugby & cricket internationals
19 - Andy Long
26 - was this the first game without a Leicester player in it?
27 - he played two for England and two for SA in 1921
30 - attendance record?

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06/06/2012 21:41
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6. 9

It's with extreme tentativeness I say that this is not correct.

I await to be proven wrong!

 
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06/06/2012 21:49
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Last question. We're England the first team to beat SA for ages setting a consecutive win record that England equalled leading up to rwc 2003?

England ended the South African winning streak in 1998 - so not that. As a clue this world record (which I believe still stands today) related to what actually happened in the game itself.

 
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06/06/2012 21:56
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10. Have they repreesnted their country in more than one sport?

& Smurf "10 - all are rugby & cricket internationals"

You are both correct, but there's another little twist as well concerning who they represented internationally...

 
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06/06/2012 22:11
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27 - our Marketing Director says (and so i'm not sure if this is true), that Frank Mellish represented two different countries
sorry, should have said: England and South Africa

You're very right to be extremely sceptical about what Marketing Directors present as fact....
....but as St Marlowe suggests he was 95% of the way there.

Smurf "27 - he played two for England and two for SA in 1921"

Yes you're basically there, the unique element is that he is the only England player to have represented another country in the same year.

 
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06/06/2012 22:16
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No.25: Matt Dawson?

As St Marlowe so delicately put it - this isn't correct!

He was a team-mate of Matt's at club level though....

 
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06/06/2012 22:22
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28. Beat South Africa in a test match for the first time. (also used a squad system for the first time for this match under Don White)

Correct! It was at the at the 6th attempt. The previous 5 matches (all played in England) had resulted in 4 South African victories and one draw (in 1906 in the very first meeting at Crystal Palace).

Ironically, one of the worst England teams in living memory were to win in South Africa at their first attempt 3 years later in 1972.

England have beaten South Africa 12 times in 32 attempts in total.

 
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06/06/2012 22:26
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12. Stan Harris (no record of a Wimbledon Mixed Doubles victory though!)

Correct again. In fairness to my source, it actually states he was an All-England mixed doubles champion, which, in my ignorance of tennis, i've obviously confused with being a Wimbledon title.

 
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06/06/2012 22:29
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9. One brother of each set played for England, the other for South Africa.

Nice trivia that one!!

Yes, I thought that was quite a neat one too!

Randolf Ashton & Jannie Krige played for England, Ferdy Ashton & Japie Krige for South Africa.

 
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06/06/2012 22:38
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Trying a few...
5 - Bayfield
6 - 10 players
10 - all are rugby & cricket internationals
19 - Andy Long
26 - was this the first game without a Leicester player in it?
27 - he played two for England and two for SA in 1921
30 - attendance record?

5 - yes, although Olney had got that one somewhere in the swathes of posts above.
6 - yes I make it ten as well - Phil de Glanville, Victor Ubogu, Nigel Redman, Steve Ojomoh, Ben Clarke, Mike Catt, Stuart Barnes, John Mallett, Graham Dawe and Adedayo Adebayo. However, the latter 5 were all substitutes who, almost unthinkably in the modern game, all remained unused.
10 - as above
19 - yes - Andy's international career lasted 53 minutes spread over 2 tests. He started and was substituted at half time v Australia in November 1997, before briefly coming on again as a blood replacement in the second half. He also briefly appeared as a substitute against the USA in San Francisco in June 2001.
26 - that's a great shout - absolutely correct. It ended a run of 198 consecutive England games featuring a Leicester player. I thought that was one of the toughest questions here!
27 - yep, as above
30 - nope!

 
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06/06/2012 22:46
I think after all that, the remained unanswered questions are:

8. Which England player has scored most tries against South Africa in their career?

10. (A little bit more needed) What have William Milton, Frank Mitchell, Reggie Schwarz, Reginald Hands & CB van Ryneveld got in common that extends beyond just rugby?

11. Which player holds the record for most number of points scored against England in a single match?

22. What unwanted record did England avoid setting by beating South Africa at Ellis Park, Johannesburg in June 1972 and again by beating South Africa at Twickenham in Nov 2006?

23. Which England player is quickest (in terms of number of caps), to reach 100 points for England?

25. Which England player was on the winning side v South Africa in Bloemfontein in 2000, and remained so for a record further 27 successive England matches, spanning 4 years?

30. What world record was set when England defeated South Africa 22-27 in Bloemfontein on 24 June 2000?

 
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06/06/2012 23:23
8. Will Greenwood. Surprised no one else looked this one up yet!

 
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07/06/2012 00:05
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8. Will Greenwood. Surprised no one else looked this one up yet!

Probably because it's the dullest question there! But, yes Will Greenwood's 4 tries against South Africa is the most.

 
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07/06/2012 09:03
25. Ben Cohen

 
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07/06/2012 09:08
11. Jannie de Beer 34 (1999 World Cup Q/F)

 
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07/06/2012 09:23
10. All played rugby for England and cricket for South Africa (Mitchell played cricket for England aswell!)

 
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07/06/2012 09:54
23. Paul Grayson - 6

 
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07/06/2012 10:16
30. Most points by a player who has scored all his team's points-27 by Jonny Wilkinson (since beaten by Morne Steyn with 31)

 
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07/06/2012 11:07
22. most consecutive defeats, both wins stopped a run of 7 defeats

 
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07/06/2012 21:09
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25. Ben Cohen

Nope!

 
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07/06/2012 21:11
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11. Jannie de Beer 34 (1999 World Cup Q/F)

Yep - with something like 5 drop goals included in that if I remember correctly - also a record.

 
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07/06/2012 21:15
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10. All played rugby for England and cricket for South Africa (Mitchell played cricket for England aswell!)

Yes spot on. Surprising to me they were as many as five who had done this.

 
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07/06/2012 21:18
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23. Paul Grayson - 6

Yes - Simon Hodgkinson was second in his 8th cap, whilst Johnny Wilkinson really dragged his heels not passing 100 until his 10th cap. Grayson was second to 200 (one game behind Hodgkinson), second to 300 (one game behind Wilkinson) & second to 400 points (five games behind Wilkinson and the only other England player to reach this milestone).

 
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07/06/2012 21:28
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30. Most points by a player who has scored all his team's points-27 by Jonny Wilkinson (since beaten by Morne Steyn with 31)

A Jon in Alaska moment of a very good answer that's probably absolutely correct, but not the answer I was looking for!

My book mentions that Wilkinson's 27 points was an English (not world) record for a player scoring all the teams points - but that was probably because, as you say, of Morne Steyn's subsequent haul.

The world rugby record i'm thinking of still stood when the book was published in the summer of 2011, and don't recall any match where it would have been beaten since.

 
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07/06/2012 21:34
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22. most consecutive defeats, both wins stopped a run of 7 defeats

Correct - England have lost 7 in a row 3 times (the first time between 1904-06), but never 8. Slightly odd that it was wins against South Africa that stopped the record being broken on both subsequent occasions - hardly the easiest of opponents!

 
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07/06/2012 21:46
Just these two left now...

25. Which England player was on the winning side v South Africa in Bloemfontein in 2000, and remained so for a record further 27 successive England matches, spanning 4 years?

30. What world record was set when England defeated South Africa 22-27 in Bloemfontein on 24 June 2000?

 
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07/06/2012 21:56
25. Lawrence Dallaglio

 
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07/06/2012 22:12
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25. Lawrence Dallaglio

Ok - make that just the one left now.....

 
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Re: Summer Quiz (1)
07/06/2012 23:16
OK, I think that this is it...

Did Jonny score the most points by one player that scored all of the team points?

(Beaten in 2009 by Morne Steyn with 31)

 
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07/06/2012 23:31
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OK, I think that this is it...
Did Jonny score the most points by one player that scored all of the team points?

(Beaten in 2009 by Morne Steyn with 31)

It's a good answer Jon, but not the one i'm looking...oh hang on a minute, I see what you did there.....(Sm14)

 
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Re: Summer Quiz (1)
08/06/2012 01:20
Oops - missed that someone already said that!

It's not most penalties in a game, so not to do with the score... Hmm. Still stumped again!

 
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08/06/2012 07:20
As it's Bloemfontein is it (not looked this up yet,) either the longest successful penalty kick or drop goal on record?

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08/06/2012 07:24
ooh just googled (sorry) but not checked this. Is 9 minutes the longest injury time played in a test match and something that won't be beaten given the changes to timekeeping.

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08/06/2012 21:35
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It's not most penalties in a game, so not to do with the score... Hmm. Still stumped again!

It isn't?!?

When were more penalties kicked?

 
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08/06/2012 22:58
Three players had scored 9 penalties in a game in 1999:
- Andrew Mehrtens (NZ) vs Australia in the 1999 Tri Nations
- Neil Jenkins (Wales) vs France in a 99 World Cup warm up.
- Keiji Hirose (Japan) vs Tonga in the Pacific Rim Championship

Theirry Teixeira also scored 9 for Portugal vs Georgia in the 2000 Six Nations B tournament on 8 Feb 2000.

Eight pens in a game may be an English record, but it's not a World record.

 
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09/06/2012 01:22
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Three players had scored 9 penalties in a game in 1999:
- Andrew Mehrtens (NZ) vs Australia in the 1999 Tri Nations
- Neil Jenkins (Wales) vs France in a 99 World Cup warm up.
- Keiji Hirose (Japan) vs Tonga in the Pacific Rim Championship

Theirry Teixeira also scored 9 for Portugal vs Georgia in the 2000 Six Nations B tournament on 8 Feb 2000.

Eight pens in a game may be an English record, but it's not a World record.

Ah - we're not talking about the same record - I still might be ok with this...

SRJN&SD - As far as I aware there were no records set re: injury time or length of successful kicks at goal, but good logic all the same!

I think i've given a rather large clue away now as to what the record may be...

 
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09/06/2012 09:26
So, most total (ie by both teams) penalties kicked in a game then?

 
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09/06/2012 22:18
Yes - Apparently it's the most number of penalty goals succesfully kicked in a test match (13 in total).

Johnny Wilkinson kicked an all-time English record of 8 penalties, whilst Braam van Straaten kicked 4 and Percy Montgomerie kicked 1 in reply for South Africa. Both van Straaten and Wilkinson also each missed a penalty kick at goal as well (15 penalty goal attempts in total).

The previous week van Straaten had kicked 6 penalties in South Africa’s 18-13 win over England – itself a joint record for most number of penalties kicked by an opposing player against England.

That's the lot, thanks for participating!! (Sm152)

 
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Re: Summer Quiz (1)
10/06/2012 06:54
Thanks for setting the questions! There were some interesting bits of useless rugby knowledge in there! Hopefully the quiz that I sent the eds is as popular - not rugby related, but hey, it's the off season!

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