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By WW
November 25 2016

Tonight second in the table Yorkshire Carnegie travels to bottom club Richmond for a Friday night under lights fixture that could be a lot closer than the league table might suggest.....

Both clubs won last weekend. Consequently Bryan Redpath has only made two changes to his starting XV. Max Green steps up at scrumhalf and Lewis Boyce comes back into the starting front row. Richmond have only made one change to the side that beat London Scottish at the RAG. Tonight's game is at the same ground.

The weather forecast for west London is dry and sunny all day. By kick-off it will be 7 degrees with a light north easterly breeze. This is ideal for playing rugby, in my opinion.

Carnegie will have worked on several issues that showed up at Headingley last Friday. The lineout must be better. We also expect the good defensive work, started against Doncaster, to continue. Complacency must not be an issue tonight. Richmond has been improving in the weeks building up to the win over the Exiles.

There does not appear to be any media coverage from the RAG tonight so we will be coordinating updates on here, garnered from the serried ranks of Tykes on the terraces at Richmond.

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Richmond - matchday thread.
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25/11/2016 15:00
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:17
Team as announced. No late changes.

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haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:24
Not quite WW. According to the teamsheet on twitter, Plug is on the bench, having supposedly been unavailable.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:28
Mind you the other team sheet has the game being played on Saturday October 1st.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:46

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:48
We are winning after 90 seconds. Green try. 0 - 5.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:49

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:51
Jonah over after good work by Pistol Pete. Joe hits the target. 0 - 12

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 19:51
I can't keep up . try for Jonah

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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:00

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:03
Pete over now. Joe misses. 0 - 17

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:03

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:08
Seb over now. 22 - 0

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:08
EStegman keeping up his recent form scores the fourth try. We have secured the bonus point after 20 minutes. Looks like one way traffic. Time to apply the sword to the neck.

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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:14
Uh oh old habits etc Richmond try.

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haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:15
Converted try for Richmond. 7 - 22

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:23
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Wildwillie
Uh oh old habits etc Richmond try.

Yep, another converted try. Been all Richmond for last 10 minutes or so. 14 - 22

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:26
Now 21 - 22, and its half time. We have shipped three tries to the team who are part time and bottom of the league!! Discuss.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.



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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:31
After 20 minutes of optimism we have shipped 21 points and lead by 1 at the break. Not good enough. No excuses. 5 hours ago the Richmond lads were still at work doing their day jobs.

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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Nosnibor (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:33
Hmmmm. Just caught up with the first half on twitter in one foul swoop. Ecstasy turned to agony over the course of about 90 seconds reading.

If we can't defend better than that against part-timers, then our games are going to be exciting, but we'll never get out of this league. Grrrrrrrr

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:39
Sounds like some half. Hopefully some harsh words spoken at HT.
Need to up our game here.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:43
Back under way and Richmond go into the lead with a penalty 24 - 22

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.



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Scuffer
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Scuffer (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:44
Doesn't matter who you're playing against, if you take your foot off the gas you're dead because it's so hard to up the level again. Hopefully half time break will help us.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:46
Time for whiskyvmethinks. What a shambles!

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haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:46
Line out near their line. Throw not straight. Every week this happens!!!

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:50
Kirsty breaks clear, but called back for a knock on.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:56
Crikey. Foot of the gas indeed.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:57
Apparantly both teams are kicking to gain position. Why the hell are we having to do that? Beech and Graham on.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 20:59
Another try, --- to Richmond. Bloody hell.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:00
Converted from wide out, off the post 31 - 22.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:02
Difficult to judge a game when not watching it but sounds really poor from us after a good start. Reminds me of the Bedford game but this turning around earlier!

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:05
Oh my - we are now getting spanked. Am I paying for my sins in a previous life?


(Sm124)

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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:07
They must find a way to turn this around.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:08
Stedman over from a catch and drive. Joe has missed again 31 - 27, with 15 minutes left.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
SFS (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:09
one from five from the tee hmm.

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haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:10
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JDH
Difficult to judge a game when not watching it but sounds really poor from us after a good start. Reminds me of the Bedford game but this turning around earlier!

I agree JDH, but look at the opposition, and where we aspire to be. We should not be shippnig tries like we are. We need to find a way to win this now.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
Scuffer
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Scuffer (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:11
Are these missed kicks from Ford difficult because he missed some sitters last week and was really tentative when he was setting up the kicks?

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:15
I Think most have been wide out, but it might not matter. Jonah has just made a great break and put Seb. in.. And Joe has nailed it from the touch line. 31 - 34

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:18
Big Rob bursts through to score now. Missed conversion, but 31 - 39 with 5 to go.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
SFS (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:19
Two from seven from the tee hmm.

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haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:25
It's over a 5 point win was what we xpected, but I didn't expect that. Final score 31 - 39.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.



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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:29
Credit to them. We won.

But we need to be more convincing then that surely. Well done Richmond. Sounds like they played well.

 
ellishicks
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
ellishicks (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:32
Coach home should be interesting!
Plenty of chance to 'learn the lessons' from mistakes.

 
headingleytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
headingleytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:34
I thought after last week we had our defence sorted out. Obviously not. On what I have read today we do not deserve to go up. Do the players not listen or have they not got confidence in their coaches

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
ellishicks (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:37
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headingleytyke
I thought after last week we had our defence sorted out. Obviously not. On what I have read today we do not deserve to go up. Do the players not listen or have they not got confidence in their coaches
Or do they lack the ability to communicate with each other when the game is in progress?

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
almostatyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:38
Something not quite right, but we got 5 points. Need to sleep on it I think.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
yeldor (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:42
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almostatyke
Something not quite right, but we got 5 points. Need to sleep on it I think.
. Appears players slept through most of the game .

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:45
We were 22 points up after 20 minutes, we should have run riot. Interestingly, following on Twitter, our best player, and enforcer, was not mentioned once. Let's start by giving Buzz the number 8 shirt back.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
ellishicks
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
ellishicks (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:45
Craig, Green, Hill, Burrell, Hodgson and Fred Burdon and more- all playing on tv Saints v Falcons tonight. We've had a lot of players at Headingley who've been Prem standard - plenty through the academy. If you want a career in this sport, you have to seize your chance and take responsibility - blaming the coaches won't get you far.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:47
Learn and move on.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
leemingtyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:49
Quote:
JDH
Learn and move on.

Never seem to though do we

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
farmertyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:52
Well I cannot think Richmond are the Leicester of last year.
Disappointing that we leaked all the tries after last week .
Joe is obviously not too happy under the lights. But still 5 points .

 
Scuffer
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Scuffer (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:52
Totally agree about Buzz Hax. And Beck shouldn't be at lock.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:54
Accepted, they are learning slower than hoped.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
almostatyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 21:57
Richmond are obviously coming into form and we had the misfortune to play them on a Friday night, meaning no away support. Forget the "part-time" tag, Richmond players are hardly bricklayers and labourers, they just went easy on the emails today to ensure they were match fit.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
JDH (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 22:02
With Smith out they need beck in for the lineout. Agree buzz at 8 though. Wonder if he will go back there when mayhew is back at 7. I know he wants buzz and Stedham on the field but without first choice jumping locks it don't work.

 
haxbytyke
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/11/2016 22:03
Sorry Almo, I can't agree. Before tonight they were averaging 12 points a game. They are not a full time team, we should be seeing them off, and that is probably why we over-run them in the last 10 minutes. And 22 points up in 20 minutes should have been the catalyst for a massive win. We've got the 5 points, and we are well placed in the league, but for me, tonight's result is nowhere near good enough

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Gelbel (IP Logged)
26/11/2016 07:44
I've got to write that utter rubbish up! It was only our pace that killed Richmond most of whom did a day job yesterday.

I'm personally going to drive Joe to Sale when I get home.

Awful, awful, awful.

Harry Leonard got an almighty welcome from the players and staff.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
26/11/2016 08:03
Black Friday it was then. Despite the 5 points I am taking that as a backward step. Shipping 31 points against the bottom club is not acceptable.

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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Madtyke (IP Logged)
26/11/2016 09:42
Amazing that 2 players Brush thought not worthy of a place in the Carnegie squad played for Falcons in the Premiership and one who hardly featured at either fly half or FB got the MOTM.

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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
bird lover (IP Logged)
26/11/2016 11:28
Not a lot you can say about that that can be printed,second in league pushing for Prem. Not a hope in hell. That should have been a 100 ! sorted defence out my backside.COYC !!!Well done Mr Redpath have a look at Saints v Falcons game and have a little think.Oh and do something about our defence.New contract !! Mmmmmm

 
Wensleydale Falcon
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wensleydale Falcon (IP Logged)
26/11/2016 12:30
As much as I would like to see you guys back in the Prem looking at your defensive stats as they are at present I would have major concerns If you were to win the play offs (big ask)

Only Richmond and Scottish have shipped more points at present.

The Premiership is a very unforgiving place as we find out from time to time (Bath springs to mind this season)and if a teams defence isn't on it for the full 80 you get tortured.

Be interested to hear what you folks think but I believe that the team coming up must be Premiership ready and it looks like at the moment Irish are developing well and defensively very solid.

Hoping to get to a game or two soon at Headingley to support you boys.

Look after them Mayhew brothers....great guys and they ALWAYS put a big honest shift in!

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
27/11/2016 09:59
London Welsh like many other Championship clubs have abandoned their Prem dream as now there are only two sides in Championship with that dream and one Red Hot Fav the future for English level two Rugby looks GRIM this has been coming for a while . The union and premiership greed has let level two down. And when they ring fence that's it. But I have to say that the state of Championship this year is it what they have engineered??????

 
bird lover
Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
bird lover (IP Logged)
27/11/2016 10:35
Before Fri Richmond scoring average was per game in 9 games was 12 yes 12. They rattled in 31 yes 31 against us !!!! And our defence is getting better. Don't make me laugh.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
leemingtyke (IP Logged)
27/11/2016 11:15
I think the realists amongst us realise that we are nowhere near good enough to survive in the Prem and have been saying so for a number of seasons. That's just survive, never mind compete. Thats why i said pre-season that i was just going to try and enjoy the rugby this year and not mention the 'P' word.

The rugby in the Championship, thanks to the RFU Premiership Rugby, is just so far below prem standard that it in no way prepares the play off winners for what they are about to face.

In my opinion, as I said on another thread the other day, this situation is being purposely engineered by the organisations mentioned above so that they can justify ringfencing.

As far as we are concerned and our defensive issues. I think we are a bit like England under Lancaster. The players are there, but they are capable of so much more. Read into that what you will.

 
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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
SideStep (IP Logged)
27/11/2016 14:07
So much doom and gloom! Look we won the match got the 5 points. We have played 10 won 9 lost 1. Personally i'd have taken that. We are not the finished article but i won't be giving up hope just yet!

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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
Wildwillie (IP Logged)
27/11/2016 16:49
No-one is giving up hope but it is perfectly reasonable to wonder why we are shipping so many points. Richmond must have thought Christmas had come early. (Sm124)

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Re: Richmond - matchday thread.
headingleytyke (IP Logged)
27/11/2016 17:10
I wonder if our sponsors and shareholders realise their waste of money. We are not faintly ready for premiership play and would hate to watch if we went up. Being realistic we could see us as a semi pro team next season

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