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By WW
February 27 2017

With the announcement today that Ryan Burrows will be leaving Yorkshire Carnegie to play in the Premiership next season it is time to draw together a comprehensive list of the comings and goings at the club. Sources should be reliable if at all humanly possible. Let us know what you hear and we can add it to the list.

IN

Ben West (18 month contract)

OUT

Ryan Burrows (Newcastle Falcons)

Dean Schofield (retiring)

Lewis Boyce (Harlequins)

Alex Gray (gone)

Sione Faletau (Bristol)

 MID CONTRACT

Steve McColl

Ollie Stedman

Mike Mayhew

Rich Mayhew

Alex Davies

Ross Graham

Joe Ford

Andy Forsyth

Charlie Beech

Andy Imiolek

Mike Myerscough

Jack Whetton.

OUT OF CONTRACT

Rob O'Donnell.

Andy Saull.

Richard Beck

Phil Nilsen

Tom Casson

Chris Walker

Matt Smith

Pete Lucock

Josh Bainbridge.

Seb Stegman.

 

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27/02/2017 13:56
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 14:00
Lewis Boyce is off to Quins - been a rumour for a while but confirmed from the man himself a few times now.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 14:02
A good idea, but hopefully this thread will be factual, and not be littered with unconfirmed rumours from newspapers. Buzz leaving was not unexpected, but it's a big pair of boots to fill.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.



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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 14:13
We already filled them with Ollie Stedman!

(Sm134)

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John R (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 15:06
Nahhh,

Not a patch on Buzz at 8. Jared's at Donny so it would only be a short journey to get him back.

Up the Yorkshire Carnegie TYKES !

 
Bran
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Bran (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 16:24
Buzz is the best 8 in the league, I wonder if Newcastle will play him on the wing????

 
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farmertyke (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 16:35
Good luck Ryan.
Always reminded me of Boxer the cart horse in Orwell's Animal Farm . Always gave a 110% for the cause and was utterly dependable.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 16:28
Alex Gray gone according to brushes pre match interview.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 17:41

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 17:49
Moving on were his words (after listening again)
He never got going. Had the potential to be a good player for the club.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 17:51
I wonder why Alex decide to move on? (mid contract & mid-season)

It is marvellous how the mgt just drop it into an interview as if it was common knowledge.

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almostatyke (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 19:22
we seem to be unable to develop star 7's players into promising Championship players do we? Certainly Vickerman struggled.

 
headingleytyke
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 10:55
There is talk in the rugby paper today about Jonah Holmes going to Leicester

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 11:47
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headingleytyke
There is talk in the rugby paper today about Jonah Holmes going to Leicester

They have to write something to fill their space. Lets keep this thread factual and not rumour based.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Ayerza wannabe (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 11:49
Is there a highlights video of Holmes anywhere?

As said on our board he has recently followed Tigers on Twitter which is usually a sign or some kind.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 11:54
You can see him on Sky this afternoon.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 12:12
He won't see the ball today.

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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 19:41
Pity he didn't see it a bit more!!!

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 20:15
Yep! The boy done good. A class act. (Sm134)

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almostatyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 20:23
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Yep! The boy done good. A class act. (Sm134)

I think it is "dun good" but perhaps Yeldor or Hornchurch could confirm?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:10
Again cannot blame Holmes if he moves on. He has given 3 good years. Hopefully he might stay.
Players will leave who we want to stay but there are others too who I think we need to let go.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:15
I'll be surprised, very surprised in fact, if Jonah is here next season, but like you say, he deserves his shot at the top table, he won't get it at Headingley sadly. I did hear today that some players who are out of contract haven't even started negotiations about renewing them. Sad state of affairs in my opinion. No wonder players want to move on.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:24
Is that a reflection that the new DOR is not in place behind the scenes?
I would have thought contracts should be underway by now.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:34
So would I, and I guess the players would too. Shame about Buzz and Jonah though. We saw today how much they play for Carnegie, and I'm sure if we'd got into the Premiership they would stay. Then again, who knows what goes on behind the scenes?

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 23:07
I think we have to trust the guys in charge.
They are certainly getting the youth side organised with the new coaching structure. So they have an eye on the future.
Need to get the best out of what we have this season and future seasons first team wise.

 
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Rocky (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 08:08
Jonah will do well at the Tigers if he is given space and it will be interesting to see how he fits in with that backline as his time at Wasps wasn't as successful as he hoped.

There will be a good few changes in key positions and we'll need to build again. My concern is how many of our younger academy lads will leave due to lack of game time and not how many of the recent signings we'll lose.

Lets take Max Green for example. A great young 9 who put his hands up at the end of last season as someone to build a back line around. We then bring in Davies and Green is relegated to a role as a bit part player. He's shown enough to get a prem squad deal and we could see them depart as clubs will be sniffing around.

It will be interesting to see how many of the squad are there next year and whether our directors and current head coach are having an input on selection of whether Lowes is driving it.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 08:32
Surely Lowes is sorting out who he wants for next season. If the rumour that contract negotiations have not started yet is true then that is a concern. Have we not learned the lessons of the past? It would appear not.

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JDH (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 08:58
You need at least two good 9s. Unfortunately someone always misses out. Taking your chances is the key.

 
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06/03/2017 14:42
If I remember correctly one D Macilwaine was one of Jimmys signings before he (Jimmy that is) abruptly left us in the close season before D Mac arrived. We all know what happened there don't we. Surely one of the worst signings ever !! So I for one hope it isn't JL who's sorting out who he wants for next season. However, I feel sorry for the players who are no doubt being messed around pending the outcome of the play offs.

 
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bspa2 (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 16:44
So often the message board assumes the management doesn't know what it is doing yet whenever I ask direct questions I get sensible answers.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 17:05
Very true. All nonsense and rumour.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 18:03
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So often the message board assumes the management doesn't know what it is doing yet whenever I ask direct questions I get sensible answers.

Have you asked if contract talks are underway?

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farmertyke (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 19:09
Ummm well the management have not entirely covered themselves in glory over the number 10 shirt.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 21:56
Nns, didn't Jimmy put loz into the first team?

 
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07/03/2017 08:02
I believe Loz came from the Uni, probably when Tommy coached there. I think anyone with even half a rugby union brain could see that he was absolute quality and would have put him in the first team.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 10:38
He still put him in.

I think all coaches have good and bad signings for whatever reason. Just need more good than bad when the budget is small.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 11:25
I thought our Director of Rugby handled recruitment?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 11:35
I am sure the coaches will identify and Gibson do the contract paperwork side.

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 14:20
What exactly does Gibson do ????? COLT!!!!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 14:35
Think that's a bit unfair. Probably more than what you think.
I think he maybe attending the next fans meeting?

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 18:39
Check the minutes - it's been asked.... again. Anyone see him on Sunday? I've not seen him for ages - cept on telly in the Rhinos dug out.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 18:54
Still see hetherington a fair bit.

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
08/03/2017 16:27
Its time for clear out and a re think. Not happy about our best players leaving !! we need to sign loads and keep them if we aspire to go up.I am gutted.COLT!!!!!Oh and good luck with Mr Gibson and Forum.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
08/03/2017 17:01
I can't agree with that. We need to keep as many key players as possible for the sake of continuity. As long as the players we bring in are better than those we release then the squad will get stronger.

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 20:08
Anybody heard about other comming or goings

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 20:42
In order to put some balance into the discussion, we need to remember that not even Saracens or Wasps end the season with their current squad, and then build on it. There is a natural progression (or merry-go-round) of players at all levels. The trick is to ensure that the incoming players are at least equal to those leaving - something,for example, that Sale Sharks failed to do at the end of last season.
Good luck to those who are leaving - we need to recruit/promote from Academy other players who can do better.

If it was easy it would be called football.

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 20:50
If it was football Almo, we'd be seriously loaded due to all the incoming transfer fees!

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 21:37
Good point Leeming. But for some reason RU contracts are not worth the paper they are written on, once a player decides he wants away - so transfer fees, and the resulting reward for a club that has developed the young talent - do not exist.

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 21:54
Maybe there should be some kind of rule where, if a player comes up through a club's academy system and moves to a Premiership club before the age of 25, the receiving club is required to pay the losing club compensation for the time and effort they invested in the player.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 21:57
Rules??? Wouldn't work in France......and probably not here either.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 22:06
I would like to see our younger guys get a chance but also see a few foreign guys come in. Add some flair and hard running to proceedings.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 10:53
see Joe is joining his brother at Leicester next season

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 11:32
I like that rumour. Unfortunately that is all it is at the moment.

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JDH (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 14:31
Joe to tigers? To be 3rd choice?

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 15:42
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Joe to tigers? To be 3rd choice?

He was that pretty much at Sharks they clearly didn't fancy him as cipriani had announced going to wasps long before we announced him here, remember we were supposed to have sir Kev for 18 months he only lasted 6 meaning we needed a 10 quick, reckon we paid big bucks to get him so will happy to get him off wage bill,

I haven't seen much to be honest on the few times I've seen him that makes me sad he's going, Elder will move on along as he only signed till end of season with Holmes going some big holes to fill in back line, first announcements on replacements will tell us a lot about future backing and hopes for next year

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 16:26
I would hope they will put in a good bid to keep Elder now Jonah's going. He's not going to get Prem offers so unless he's pining for the stockbroker belt I don't see why he wouldn't stay for the right offer.

Sorry, I know this is diverging from the factual brief of this thread. Perhaps we need a rumours and whispers one again.

If I had all the money I've spent on drink ..... I'd spend it on drink.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 17:54
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see Joe is joining his brother at Leicester next season

Where has that come from?

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 18:17
In rugby paper this morning also stating Jonah sign for them as well, not in the usual gossip bit but a piece on its own on back page

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 18:36
Thanks, thought I hadn't seen it among the usual rumours. Not got as far as the back page.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
John R
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John R (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 18:41
Joe has always been good at leaving our club.

Who will be the first (of many) to say I told you so?

Up the Yorkshire Carnegie TYKES !

 
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Rocky's Dad (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 13:12
It official Boyce to Quins

Offy

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 13:19
I think the club read it on here and then decided to let Lewis go. How else could you explain the time lag between him saying he is going and our media team saying the same.( Unless Lewis told Gelbel before he told the club)

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bird lover (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 13:27
Am I missing something we are supposed to be pushing for prem but we are letting our best players go!!!! how does that work ? or have we thrown towel in ???? COLT!!!!

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 16:02
Our media department are not the sharpest kids on the block. By the time they have sorted the wins out things have happened in rugby union and they have been left behind. Nothing then has changed in the last few years then😥😥

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 16:42
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Am I missing something we are supposed to be pushing for prem but we are letting our best players go!!!! how does that work ? or have we thrown towel in ???? COLT!!!!

Yep you are missing the fact that when it comes to salaries then the prem clubs have a lot more financial clout than we do. It is not a case of letting them go, simply not having enough cash to keep them.

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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 17:32
Missing the point big style as Lewis was our banker to leave. It's been muted long before Ryan and Jonah either wasps or quins
We need to announce half of racing and stade teams and we stand half a chance next year

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 19:31
Please don't over-react.

Even Wasps and Saracens will have good players leaving them - it is just the nature of professional rugby. We need to ensure the salary funds release enable us to get a player at least equal, or promote from our Academy.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:23
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We need to announce half of racing and stade teams and we stand half a chance next year
But, a half multiplied by a half is a quarter, that reduces our chances even more. Did you know that 5 people out of every 3 struggle with fractions.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:32
Disappointed to lose our best and brightest but we need to recruit strongly.

 
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CheshireTyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:36
Greetings, new to the board but have been a have long term season ticket holder and been watching Leeds since the beloved season they finished 6th.

Anyhoo... I can see both sides of what people are saying. On one hand it's hard competing with prem clubs and the attraction of premiership rugby and playing at the highest level, not having the guarantee of Leeds/Yorkshire, the players need to sort themselves out with what's best for them etc etc.

But Bristol (should they come down, which i think they will) are managing it just fine. So why aren't we? Bris signing NZ and Ireland internationals but we aren't able to keep hold of our own players? Something isn't sitting right with me on that. Letting Buzz and Holmes go is huge, granted they have put in 3-6 years of grit and hard work but surely the club, with their prem ambitions are thinking need to kick on with this current crop of players. Offer the money they want for an extra year or two and sign the top quality players that we need. But of course the new board are running the club as a business so will always make sure the books stay in the green. Which again is fine but just means that the club won't ever kick on. Majority of the prem clubs have a sugar daddy and will be able to throw money at players to get them (bris). But that for me is where the difference between the prem and champ lies. With the sugar daddies.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:48
A warm welcome to the board CT. It's a vicious circle, sadly, and we have no sugar daddy. The likes of Buzz and Jonah have given evrything, but they know that if they want to play top flight rugby, it will not be at Headingley. Until we get the injection of cash that Bris., etc., have got, we will never be a premiership side. Yorkshire Carnegie promised so much, but it is just not happening.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
15/03/2017 10:38
Isnt the Yorkshire idea, that I happen to think has failed suppose to have brought in investment ?? COLT!!!!All it seems to have done is wind all Yorkshire clubs up ??? COLT!!!!

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
15/03/2017 11:09
It has brought investment - at least 1M so far - but what isn't clear is how deep the pockets are if we manage to win promotion.

If I had all the money I've spent on drink ..... I'd spend it on drink.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
15/03/2017 20:59
I understand your comment, Albert, but I think that if or when we achieve Premiership status, the funds will not be hard to find. The problem, as I see it, is maintaining the belief that there is a chance to get into the Premiership.
Whilst we do not have an official "Sugar Daddy", IMHO we have a board of directors who are willing to dip into their pockets to write-off end of year losses - a much more sustainable model than the Sugar Daddy model.
Just how this "model" works under the new no play-off environment, I am not sure.

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 10:49
Re announcements - it's not the losing club's responsibility to do that. If you look back it's rare that YC do. And no one can announce anything until the ink's dry and both parties are ready.

Been open knowledge about Lewis for ages - even his colleagues mentioned it in conversations as well as the man himself (when asked).

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 11:48
Surely this is our best chance of prem its a two horse race,with little or no competition and already we know we are losing 3 0r 4 players and maybe more.Should we not be announcing the signing of some better players that surely would announce our intent ????? COLT!!!!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 11:55
I am sure we will. It's easy to sign when you know where you are next year. Even if it is a long shot we go up.

 
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bird lover (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 13:48
Faletau now to Bristol, somethings going on ??? let players go yes but not your best !!!!!! COLT!!!

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 13:49
Sione Faletau to Bristol.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 14:17
Was Faletau not just signed until the end of the season? I never expected him to be here next year.

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 16:10
I hope the board have something up their sleeves with regards to signings because with the out flowings it leaves us very light. If you are a reasonable player looking around and with asperations where do you go. Bristol, worcs or us?

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 16:41
Worcs, Bristol, then anyone else, with the message we are sending out. None of these departures should have been disclosed till the playing is over it just does not make sense !!!! COLT!!! Who next to announce they are off.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 17:01
We only have 8 props now..

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 17:05
The club needs to focus on who they want to retain from the "out of contract" list. O'Donnell,Lucock, Nilsen, Smith and Beck spring to mind

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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 17:49
Definitely need to keep hold of Pete Lucock as well. Massively underrated player.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 18:01
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We only have 8 props now..

(Sm134)

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bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
17/03/2017 08:42
Oh 8 props good and no fly half brilliant no wonder Redpath going out of game ??? COLT!!!!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
17/03/2017 09:36
A good rebuild is required.

 
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17/03/2017 11:19
Agree re Pete Lucock, Leemingtyke.

I have been saying that for years

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
17/03/2017 16:46
My apologies for omitting "Pistol Pete" from my previous post(now amended). He has been our most consistent centre in the last few seasons and, I suspect, his best is yet to come.

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SideStep (IP Logged)
19/03/2017 10:49
This merry go round happens year on year. We lose our best and brightest because.....we are not in the prem! Until that fabled day comes it will continue on and on. As a jaded and glass half empty follower of this club the last 16 years I sit with baited breath for something positive to happen.
Agree with the other posters who would like 1 or 2 signings announced soon just to give that boost.

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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
19/03/2017 12:20
Couldn't find any leavers that haven't already been mentioned in rugby paper this morning.

But didn't read about any incomings either

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
21/03/2017 17:34
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Have you asked if contract talks are underway?

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Apparantly not!. If that is the case, then I think we can expect a few more goings.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Rocky (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 13:36
Loyalty goes both ways Carnegie, if you don't treat players correctly then they'll leave.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 16:21
On a more pragmatic note they need to know that they will be getting paid next season. A contract in the hand is worth two in the bush so to speak.

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almostatyke (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 18:21
As I see it, the trouble is, the club do not know which division we will be in next season. OK it is highly likely that we will be in the Championship. But, just in case we get lucky, why would you re-sign players who are good Championship quality, but not good enough for the Prem?

Next year there will be no play-offs and so planning for the following season will be easier.

 
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22/03/2017 22:11
Don't you think we need to know whether the club are going to say whether they want to go for promotion next year,or are we going to cut our cloth and say we don't want to go for promotion next year and link up with a premership club, therefore open to 12 loanees at one time . No one has asked this question yet! If Bristol come down they will win the league so why fight this? We should be asking the club what the ambition / target is next year. Remember this was voted in by the championship clubs starting next season ! What is Carnegie's position ?

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 23:12
Also would the departure of some of the best players not have a knock on effect with others due for contract renewal. " why should I stay " as it looks like no ambition from the club.
Perhaps however the players have been told of new signings. However some one at the club assures me that is not the case

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 23:13
I think the "buddy" idea has been quietly shelved so there won't be masses of loanees.

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JDH (IP Logged)
23/03/2017 00:28
There are multiple scenarios.

Since the new owners took over I have, on the whole, been pretty happy with what we have done off the field and signings etc even if we have never really played well.

Clarity on the new DOR, quality of signings and intentions for next season are needed.

Biggest question is regarding funding. Do we have any other backers. Is this what's holding back the above.

Hopefully we are getting things in order before releasing the plan!

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
23/03/2017 07:05
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Biggest question is regarding funding. Do we have any other backers. Is this what's holding back the above.

Hopefully we are getting things in order before releasing the plan!

Yep they will not commit funds that they do not have

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bird lover (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 15:33
I am worried !!!! COLT. !!!

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 19:39
Just seen a tweet from Taylor Prell (sorry can't do a link.....technophobe) stating he's just enjoyed his first run out with Warrington Wolves 2nd team

Big leap to RL bizarre move if it's permanent as we are treat like prize Mushrooms nothing should surprise us

 
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yeldor (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 19:47
Are we in meltdown mode?

sent off carried off never backed off

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 20:09
If the Carnegie money has not been replaced then our budget is 1 million light next season. That could mean a squad reduced by 15 players (or more). Expect announced leavers rather than new signings if that is the case.

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JDH (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 20:22
Seems strange that he would be playing RL and not loaned to a wharfedale etc

I think a statement on intentions and what's happening would be welcome

 
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25/03/2017 20:28
I think this points in the direction that we will be bringing loan players in from the premiership clubs next season, so that will be six if we say were going to go for promotion or if we say we're not going to go for promotion it can be up to 12 players, remember the article that was published by Nigel Malville on the championship. Looks like we could be following in that direction !?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 20:38
Depends if we know if or when ring fencing may happen.

I don't like the idea of watching Sale second team in a tykes shirt and I don't know why Melville thinks it acceptable either.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 21:00
Looks like the end of the Carnegie money is going to hit us hard.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 21:06
If Prell has gone I wouldn't blame him one bit. First it's CG, and now him. In my opinion not given a fair crack of the whip at Headingley. If the players' contract renewals aren't being discussed, what are they supposed to do? Hang about and see what happens, or secure their own future if they get an offer from elsewhere.

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We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 21:14
Hopefully we will be pleasantly surprised.

 
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Competitive Dad (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 02:08
Taylor scored all 4 of the Warrington tries

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 09:00
No wonder he enjoyed it! Surely we should not be letting anybody go at this stage of the season.

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We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 13:04
I think Taylor would make a good FB. With us probably losing Elder I hope we can keep him and he gets more game time.
His natural running ability would suit the 15 role.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 13:37
Maybe the end of the play offs will be a good thing, whilst I don't think anyone will trouble Irish in Play offs there are teams who still stand a chance of promotion, if this season was first past the post contracts signings etc would already be in place,

Still think club should let us know what is going on regarding players going, even if it is on loan, not interested about contracts ongoing etc but Prell Gray etc just leaving without a word is not good, even if it was a footnote on website wishing them well at least we would know, Prell is a U20 World Cup winner and we find out about him playing for someone else via a tweet, Injuries are the same a weekly fan update would suffice, mccoll injured? As not in squad or has he joined the Kazakhstan super league? We wouldn't know #badformchaps

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 14:54
Our pr and marketing department work on the mushroom principle. Unless of course your a wins supporter

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 18:13
Prell would have waltzed in for two tries today if he had been given the chances that Arscott had.

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We've been through it all together.

 
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Rocky (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 21:23
I think people are right that the club are cutting their cloth losing the Carnegie money. We'll probably lose a lot more of good and long term players and next year won't be the club we know.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 21:30
Even the cometary team today mentioned about Jonah going to Leicester next season. If Bristol come down and we are shedding players I feel we will have a few years in the Championship as the decent ing team has all the money.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 22:07
I think talk of massive cuts is premature but there will be some. If we are cutting, you keep prell, green, Wright and Bainbridge (if we can) and add loans amongst. Looking at the players contracted, there is a soild side there.

I would rather have a chance of promotion with a few loans and our academy playing than be a second team for a prem team playing for nothing. Even if we lost more games we would at least be playing for a reason.

What would it say if there was only one team eligible to go up before the season started?

Board have surprised before and may do again!

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 22:10
JDH, I only hope you are correct. The Prell situation seems strange. Big games coming up, and he starts playing RL. I asked somebody connected with the club today if he had left. The answer was along the lines of we don't know it's the first I've heard of it.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 22:16
Perhaps he needed a run out. I think Jimmy would have sorted it. He was assistant coach at the wire.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 22:40
The change of codes is what I find strange. Not usual to loan a player from one code to the other. I think, (and I hope I'm wrong), he's gone.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

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