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Signings and departures part 1


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By WW
February 27 2017

With the announcement today that Ryan Burrows will be leaving Yorkshire Carnegie to play in the Premiership next season it is time to draw together a comprehensive list of the comings and goings at the club. Sources should be reliable if at all humanly possible. Let us know what you hear and we can add it to the list.

IN

Ben West (18 month contract)

OUT

Ryan Burrows (Newcastle Falcons)

Dean Schofield (retiring)

Lewis Boyce (Harlequins)

Alex Gray (gone)

Sione Faletau (Bristol)

Taylor Prell (released)

Ollie Goss (released)

Warren Seals (released)

Andy Saull (released)

Chris Walker (released)

Rob O'Donnell  (released)

Joe Ford (Leicester)

Jonah Holmes (Leicester)

 MID CONTRACT

Steve McColl

Ollie Stedman

Mike Mayhew

Rich Mayhew

Alex Davies

Ross Graham

Andy Forsyth

Charlie Beech

Andy Imiolek

Mike Myerscough

Jack Whetton.

OUT OF CONTRACT.

Richard Beck

Phil Nilsen

Tom Casson

Matt Smith

Seb Stegman.

 

RE-SIGNED

Pete Lucock ( one year)

Josh Bainbridge (one year)

 

 

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Gelbel (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 14:00
Lewis Boyce is off to Quins - been a rumour for a while but confirmed from the man himself a few times now.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 14:02
A good idea, but hopefully this thread will be factual, and not be littered with unconfirmed rumours from newspapers. Buzz leaving was not unexpected, but it's a big pair of boots to fill.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.



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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 14:13
We already filled them with Ollie Stedman!

(Sm134)

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John R (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 15:06
Nahhh,

Not a patch on Buzz at 8. Jared's at Donny so it would only be a short journey to get him back.

Up the Yorkshire Carnegie TYKES !

 
Bran
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Bran (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 16:24
Buzz is the best 8 in the league, I wonder if Newcastle will play him on the wing????

 
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farmertyke (IP Logged)
27/02/2017 16:35
Good luck Ryan.
Always reminded me of Boxer the cart horse in Orwell's Animal Farm . Always gave a 110% for the cause and was utterly dependable.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 16:28
Alex Gray gone according to brushes pre match interview.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 17:41

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 17:49
Moving on were his words (after listening again)
He never got going. Had the potential to be a good player for the club.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 17:51
I wonder why Alex decide to move on? (mid contract & mid-season)

It is marvellous how the mgt just drop it into an interview as if it was common knowledge.

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almostatyke (IP Logged)
02/03/2017 19:22
we seem to be unable to develop star 7's players into promising Championship players do we? Certainly Vickerman struggled.

 
headingleytyke
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 10:55
There is talk in the rugby paper today about Jonah Holmes going to Leicester

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 11:47
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headingleytyke
There is talk in the rugby paper today about Jonah Holmes going to Leicester

They have to write something to fill their space. Lets keep this thread factual and not rumour based.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Ayerza wannabe (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 11:49
Is there a highlights video of Holmes anywhere?

As said on our board he has recently followed Tigers on Twitter which is usually a sign or some kind.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 11:54
You can see him on Sky this afternoon.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 12:12
He won't see the ball today.

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haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 19:41
Pity he didn't see it a bit more!!!

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 20:15
Yep! The boy done good. A class act. (Sm134)

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almostatyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 20:23
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Wildwillie
Yep! The boy done good. A class act. (Sm134)

I think it is "dun good" but perhaps Yeldor or Hornchurch could confirm?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:10
Again cannot blame Holmes if he moves on. He has given 3 good years. Hopefully he might stay.
Players will leave who we want to stay but there are others too who I think we need to let go.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:15
I'll be surprised, very surprised in fact, if Jonah is here next season, but like you say, he deserves his shot at the top table, he won't get it at Headingley sadly. I did hear today that some players who are out of contract haven't even started negotiations about renewing them. Sad state of affairs in my opinion. No wonder players want to move on.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:24
Is that a reflection that the new DOR is not in place behind the scenes?
I would have thought contracts should be underway by now.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 22:34
So would I, and I guess the players would too. Shame about Buzz and Jonah though. We saw today how much they play for Carnegie, and I'm sure if we'd got into the Premiership they would stay. Then again, who knows what goes on behind the scenes?

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
05/03/2017 23:07
I think we have to trust the guys in charge.
They are certainly getting the youth side organised with the new coaching structure. So they have an eye on the future.
Need to get the best out of what we have this season and future seasons first team wise.

 
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Rocky (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 08:08
Jonah will do well at the Tigers if he is given space and it will be interesting to see how he fits in with that backline as his time at Wasps wasn't as successful as he hoped.

There will be a good few changes in key positions and we'll need to build again. My concern is how many of our younger academy lads will leave due to lack of game time and not how many of the recent signings we'll lose.

Lets take Max Green for example. A great young 9 who put his hands up at the end of last season as someone to build a back line around. We then bring in Davies and Green is relegated to a role as a bit part player. He's shown enough to get a prem squad deal and we could see them depart as clubs will be sniffing around.

It will be interesting to see how many of the squad are there next year and whether our directors and current head coach are having an input on selection of whether Lowes is driving it.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 08:32
Surely Lowes is sorting out who he wants for next season. If the rumour that contract negotiations have not started yet is true then that is a concern. Have we not learned the lessons of the past? It would appear not.

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JDH (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 08:58
You need at least two good 9s. Unfortunately someone always misses out. Taking your chances is the key.

 
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06/03/2017 14:42
If I remember correctly one D Macilwaine was one of Jimmys signings before he (Jimmy that is) abruptly left us in the close season before D Mac arrived. We all know what happened there don't we. Surely one of the worst signings ever !! So I for one hope it isn't JL who's sorting out who he wants for next season. However, I feel sorry for the players who are no doubt being messed around pending the outcome of the play offs.

 
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bspa2 (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 16:44
So often the message board assumes the management doesn't know what it is doing yet whenever I ask direct questions I get sensible answers.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 17:05
Very true. All nonsense and rumour.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 18:03
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bspa2
So often the message board assumes the management doesn't know what it is doing yet whenever I ask direct questions I get sensible answers.

Have you asked if contract talks are underway?

(Sm111)

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farmertyke (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 19:09
Ummm well the management have not entirely covered themselves in glory over the number 10 shirt.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
06/03/2017 21:56
Nns, didn't Jimmy put loz into the first team?

 
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07/03/2017 08:02
I believe Loz came from the Uni, probably when Tommy coached there. I think anyone with even half a rugby union brain could see that he was absolute quality and would have put him in the first team.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 10:38
He still put him in.

I think all coaches have good and bad signings for whatever reason. Just need more good than bad when the budget is small.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 11:25
I thought our Director of Rugby handled recruitment?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 11:35
I am sure the coaches will identify and Gibson do the contract paperwork side.

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 14:20
What exactly does Gibson do ????? COLT!!!!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 14:35
Think that's a bit unfair. Probably more than what you think.
I think he maybe attending the next fans meeting?

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 18:39
Check the minutes - it's been asked.... again. Anyone see him on Sunday? I've not seen him for ages - cept on telly in the Rhinos dug out.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/03/2017 18:54
Still see hetherington a fair bit.

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
08/03/2017 16:27
Its time for clear out and a re think. Not happy about our best players leaving !! we need to sign loads and keep them if we aspire to go up.I am gutted.COLT!!!!!Oh and good luck with Mr Gibson and Forum.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
08/03/2017 17:01
I can't agree with that. We need to keep as many key players as possible for the sake of continuity. As long as the players we bring in are better than those we release then the squad will get stronger.

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 20:08
Anybody heard about other comming or goings

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 20:42
In order to put some balance into the discussion, we need to remember that not even Saracens or Wasps end the season with their current squad, and then build on it. There is a natural progression (or merry-go-round) of players at all levels. The trick is to ensure that the incoming players are at least equal to those leaving - something,for example, that Sale Sharks failed to do at the end of last season.
Good luck to those who are leaving - we need to recruit/promote from Academy other players who can do better.

If it was easy it would be called football.

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 20:50
If it was football Almo, we'd be seriously loaded due to all the incoming transfer fees!

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 21:37
Good point Leeming. But for some reason RU contracts are not worth the paper they are written on, once a player decides he wants away - so transfer fees, and the resulting reward for a club that has developed the young talent - do not exist.

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 21:54
Maybe there should be some kind of rule where, if a player comes up through a club's academy system and moves to a Premiership club before the age of 25, the receiving club is required to pay the losing club compensation for the time and effort they invested in the player.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 21:57
Rules??? Wouldn't work in France......and probably not here either.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
09/03/2017 22:06
I would like to see our younger guys get a chance but also see a few foreign guys come in. Add some flair and hard running to proceedings.

 
headingleytyke
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 10:53
see Joe is joining his brother at Leicester next season

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 11:32
I like that rumour. Unfortunately that is all it is at the moment.

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JDH (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 14:31
Joe to tigers? To be 3rd choice?

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 15:42
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Joe to tigers? To be 3rd choice?

He was that pretty much at Sharks they clearly didn't fancy him as cipriani had announced going to wasps long before we announced him here, remember we were supposed to have sir Kev for 18 months he only lasted 6 meaning we needed a 10 quick, reckon we paid big bucks to get him so will happy to get him off wage bill,

I haven't seen much to be honest on the few times I've seen him that makes me sad he's going, Elder will move on along as he only signed till end of season with Holmes going some big holes to fill in back line, first announcements on replacements will tell us a lot about future backing and hopes for next year

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 16:26
I would hope they will put in a good bid to keep Elder now Jonah's going. He's not going to get Prem offers so unless he's pining for the stockbroker belt I don't see why he wouldn't stay for the right offer.

Sorry, I know this is diverging from the factual brief of this thread. Perhaps we need a rumours and whispers one again.

If I had all the money I've spent on drink ..... I'd spend it on drink.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 17:54
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see Joe is joining his brother at Leicester next season

Where has that come from?

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 18:17
In rugby paper this morning also stating Jonah sign for them as well, not in the usual gossip bit but a piece on its own on back page

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 18:36
Thanks, thought I hadn't seen it among the usual rumours. Not got as far as the back page.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
John R
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John R (IP Logged)
12/03/2017 18:41
Joe has always been good at leaving our club.

Who will be the first (of many) to say I told you so?

Up the Yorkshire Carnegie TYKES !

 
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Rocky's Dad (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 13:12
It official Boyce to Quins

Offy

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 13:19
I think the club read it on here and then decided to let Lewis go. How else could you explain the time lag between him saying he is going and our media team saying the same.( Unless Lewis told Gelbel before he told the club)

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bird lover (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 13:27
Am I missing something we are supposed to be pushing for prem but we are letting our best players go!!!! how does that work ? or have we thrown towel in ???? COLT!!!!

 
headingleytyke
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 16:02
Our media department are not the sharpest kids on the block. By the time they have sorted the wins out things have happened in rugby union and they have been left behind. Nothing then has changed in the last few years then😥😥

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 16:42
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Am I missing something we are supposed to be pushing for prem but we are letting our best players go!!!! how does that work ? or have we thrown towel in ???? COLT!!!!

Yep you are missing the fact that when it comes to salaries then the prem clubs have a lot more financial clout than we do. It is not a case of letting them go, simply not having enough cash to keep them.

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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 17:32
Missing the point big style as Lewis was our banker to leave. It's been muted long before Ryan and Jonah either wasps or quins
We need to announce half of racing and stade teams and we stand half a chance next year

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 19:31
Please don't over-react.

Even Wasps and Saracens will have good players leaving them - it is just the nature of professional rugby. We need to ensure the salary funds release enable us to get a player at least equal, or promote from our Academy.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:23
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We need to announce half of racing and stade teams and we stand half a chance next year
But, a half multiplied by a half is a quarter, that reduces our chances even more. Did you know that 5 people out of every 3 struggle with fractions.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:32
Disappointed to lose our best and brightest but we need to recruit strongly.

 
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CheshireTyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:36
Greetings, new to the board but have been a have long term season ticket holder and been watching Leeds since the beloved season they finished 6th.

Anyhoo... I can see both sides of what people are saying. On one hand it's hard competing with prem clubs and the attraction of premiership rugby and playing at the highest level, not having the guarantee of Leeds/Yorkshire, the players need to sort themselves out with what's best for them etc etc.

But Bristol (should they come down, which i think they will) are managing it just fine. So why aren't we? Bris signing NZ and Ireland internationals but we aren't able to keep hold of our own players? Something isn't sitting right with me on that. Letting Buzz and Holmes go is huge, granted they have put in 3-6 years of grit and hard work but surely the club, with their prem ambitions are thinking need to kick on with this current crop of players. Offer the money they want for an extra year or two and sign the top quality players that we need. But of course the new board are running the club as a business so will always make sure the books stay in the green. Which again is fine but just means that the club won't ever kick on. Majority of the prem clubs have a sugar daddy and will be able to throw money at players to get them (bris). But that for me is where the difference between the prem and champ lies. With the sugar daddies.

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
14/03/2017 22:48
A warm welcome to the board CT. It's a vicious circle, sadly, and we have no sugar daddy. The likes of Buzz and Jonah have given evrything, but they know that if they want to play top flight rugby, it will not be at Headingley. Until we get the injection of cash that Bris., etc., have got, we will never be a premiership side. Yorkshire Carnegie promised so much, but it is just not happening.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
15/03/2017 10:38
Isnt the Yorkshire idea, that I happen to think has failed suppose to have brought in investment ?? COLT!!!!All it seems to have done is wind all Yorkshire clubs up ??? COLT!!!!

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
15/03/2017 11:09
It has brought investment - at least £1M so far - but what isn't clear is how deep the pockets are if we manage to win promotion.

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almostatyke (IP Logged)
15/03/2017 20:59
I understand your comment, Albert, but I think that if or when we achieve Premiership status, the funds will not be hard to find. The problem, as I see it, is maintaining the belief that there is a chance to get into the Premiership.
Whilst we do not have an official "Sugar Daddy", IMHO we have a board of directors who are willing to dip into their pockets to write-off end of year losses - a much more sustainable model than the Sugar Daddy model.
Just how this "model" works under the new no play-off environment, I am not sure.

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 10:49
Re announcements - it's not the losing club's responsibility to do that. If you look back it's rare that YC do. And no one can announce anything until the ink's dry and both parties are ready.

Been open knowledge about Lewis for ages - even his colleagues mentioned it in conversations as well as the man himself (when asked).

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 11:48
Surely this is our best chance of prem its a two horse race,with little or no competition and already we know we are losing 3 0r 4 players and maybe more.Should we not be announcing the signing of some better players that surely would announce our intent ????? COLT!!!!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 11:55
I am sure we will. It's easy to sign when you know where you are next year. Even if it is a long shot we go up.

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 13:48
Faletau now to Bristol, somethings going on ??? let players go yes but not your best !!!!!! COLT!!!

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 13:49
Sione Faletau to Bristol.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 14:17
Was Faletau not just signed until the end of the season? I never expected him to be here next year.

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 16:10
I hope the board have something up their sleeves with regards to signings because with the out flowings it leaves us very light. If you are a reasonable player looking around and with asperations where do you go. Bristol, worcs or us?

 
bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 16:41
Worcs, Bristol, then anyone else, with the message we are sending out. None of these departures should have been disclosed till the playing is over it just does not make sense !!!! COLT!!! Who next to announce they are off.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 17:01
We only have 8 props now..

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 17:05
The club needs to focus on who they want to retain from the "out of contract" list. O'Donnell,Lucock, Nilsen, Smith and Beck spring to mind

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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 17:49
Definitely need to keep hold of Pete Lucock as well. Massively underrated player.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
16/03/2017 18:01
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We only have 8 props now..

(Sm134)

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bird lover
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bird lover (IP Logged)
17/03/2017 08:42
Oh 8 props good and no fly half brilliant no wonder Redpath going out of game ??? COLT!!!!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
17/03/2017 09:36
A good rebuild is required.

 
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17/03/2017 11:19
Agree re Pete Lucock, Leemingtyke.

I have been saying that for years

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
17/03/2017 16:46
My apologies for omitting "Pistol Pete" from my previous post(now amended). He has been our most consistent centre in the last few seasons and, I suspect, his best is yet to come.

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SideStep (IP Logged)
19/03/2017 10:49
This merry go round happens year on year. We lose our best and brightest because.....we are not in the prem! Until that fabled day comes it will continue on and on. As a jaded and glass half empty follower of this club the last 16 years I sit with baited breath for something positive to happen.
Agree with the other posters who would like 1 or 2 signings announced soon just to give that boost.

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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
19/03/2017 12:20
Couldn't find any leavers that haven't already been mentioned in rugby paper this morning.

But didn't read about any incomings either

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
21/03/2017 17:34
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Have you asked if contract talks are underway?

(Sm111)

Apparantly not!. If that is the case, then I think we can expect a few more goings.

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We've been through it all together.

 
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Rocky (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 13:36
Loyalty goes both ways Carnegie, if you don't treat players correctly then they'll leave.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 16:21
On a more pragmatic note they need to know that they will be getting paid next season. A contract in the hand is worth two in the bush so to speak.

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almostatyke (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 18:21
As I see it, the trouble is, the club do not know which division we will be in next season. OK it is highly likely that we will be in the Championship. But, just in case we get lucky, why would you re-sign players who are good Championship quality, but not good enough for the Prem?

Next year there will be no play-offs and so planning for the following season will be easier.

 
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22/03/2017 22:11
Don't you think we need to know whether the club are going to say whether they want to go for promotion next year,or are we going to cut our cloth and say we don't want to go for promotion next year and link up with a premership club, therefore open to 12 loanees at one time . No one has asked this question yet! If Bristol come down they will win the league so why fight this? We should be asking the club what the ambition / target is next year. Remember this was voted in by the championship clubs starting next season ! What is Carnegie's position ?

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 23:12
Also would the departure of some of the best players not have a knock on effect with others due for contract renewal. " why should I stay " as it looks like no ambition from the club.
Perhaps however the players have been told of new signings. However some one at the club assures me that is not the case

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
22/03/2017 23:13
I think the "buddy" idea has been quietly shelved so there won't be masses of loanees.

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JDH (IP Logged)
23/03/2017 00:28
There are multiple scenarios.

Since the new owners took over I have, on the whole, been pretty happy with what we have done off the field and signings etc even if we have never really played well.

Clarity on the new DOR, quality of signings and intentions for next season are needed.

Biggest question is regarding funding. Do we have any other backers. Is this what's holding back the above.

Hopefully we are getting things in order before releasing the plan!

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
23/03/2017 07:05
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Biggest question is regarding funding. Do we have any other backers. Is this what's holding back the above.

Hopefully we are getting things in order before releasing the plan!

Yep they will not commit funds that they do not have

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bird lover (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 15:33
I am worried !!!! COLT. !!!

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 19:39
Just seen a tweet from Taylor Prell (sorry can't do a link.....technophobe) stating he's just enjoyed his first run out with Warrington Wolves 2nd team

Big leap to RL bizarre move if it's permanent as we are treat like prize Mushrooms nothing should surprise us

 
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yeldor (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 19:47
Are we in meltdown mode?

sent off carried off never backed off

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 20:09
If the Carnegie money has not been replaced then our budget is £1 million light next season. That could mean a squad reduced by 15 players (or more). Expect announced leavers rather than new signings if that is the case.

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JDH (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 20:22
Seems strange that he would be playing RL and not loaned to a wharfedale etc

I think a statement on intentions and what's happening would be welcome

 
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25/03/2017 20:28
I think this points in the direction that we will be bringing loan players in from the premiership clubs next season, so that will be six if we say were going to go for promotion or if we say we're not going to go for promotion it can be up to 12 players, remember the article that was published by Nigel Malville on the championship. Looks like we could be following in that direction !?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 20:38
Depends if we know if or when ring fencing may happen.

I don't like the idea of watching Sale second team in a tykes shirt and I don't know why Melville thinks it acceptable either.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 21:00
Looks like the end of the Carnegie money is going to hit us hard.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 21:06
If Prell has gone I wouldn't blame him one bit. First it's CG, and now him. In my opinion not given a fair crack of the whip at Headingley. If the players' contract renewals aren't being discussed, what are they supposed to do? Hang about and see what happens, or secure their own future if they get an offer from elsewhere.

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JDH (IP Logged)
25/03/2017 21:14
Hopefully we will be pleasantly surprised.

 
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26/03/2017 01:08
Taylor scored all 4 of the Warrington tries

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 08:00
No wonder he enjoyed it! Surely we should not be letting anybody go at this stage of the season.

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JDH (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 12:04
I think Taylor would make a good FB. With us probably losing Elder I hope we can keep him and he gets more game time.
His natural running ability would suit the 15 role.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 12:37
Maybe the end of the play offs will be a good thing, whilst I don't think anyone will trouble Irish in Play offs there are teams who still stand a chance of promotion, if this season was first past the post contracts signings etc would already be in place,

Still think club should let us know what is going on regarding players going, even if it is on loan, not interested about contracts ongoing etc but Prell Gray etc just leaving without a word is not good, even if it was a footnote on website wishing them well at least we would know, Prell is a U20 World Cup winner and we find out about him playing for someone else via a tweet, Injuries are the same a weekly fan update would suffice, mccoll injured? As not in squad or has he joined the Kazakhstan super league? We wouldn't know #badformchaps

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 13:54
Our pr and marketing department work on the mushroom principle. Unless of course your a wins supporter

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 17:13
Prell would have waltzed in for two tries today if he had been given the chances that Arscott had.

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Rocky (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 20:23
I think people are right that the club are cutting their cloth losing the Carnegie money. We'll probably lose a lot more of good and long term players and next year won't be the club we know.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 20:30
Even the cometary team today mentioned about Jonah going to Leicester next season. If Bristol come down and we are shedding players I feel we will have a few years in the Championship as the decent ing team has all the money.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 21:07
I think talk of massive cuts is premature but there will be some. If we are cutting, you keep prell, green, Wright and Bainbridge (if we can) and add loans amongst. Looking at the players contracted, there is a soild side there.

I would rather have a chance of promotion with a few loans and our academy playing than be a second team for a prem team playing for nothing. Even if we lost more games we would at least be playing for a reason.

What would it say if there was only one team eligible to go up before the season started?

Board have surprised before and may do again!

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 21:10
JDH, I only hope you are correct. The Prell situation seems strange. Big games coming up, and he starts playing RL. I asked somebody connected with the club today if he had left. The answer was along the lines of we don't know it's the first I've heard of it.

COME ON LEEDS.
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JDH (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 21:16
Perhaps he needed a run out. I think Jimmy would have sorted it. He was assistant coach at the wire.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
26/03/2017 21:40
The change of codes is what I find strange. Not usual to loan a player from one code to the other. I think, (and I hope I'm wrong), he's gone.

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27/03/2017 07:24
Must admit I've never been a Prell fan I'm afraid. However, it's another exapmple of how indifferently we treat our home grown youngsters. We bring in all sorts of journeymen, at great expense, and lose our own good ones who cost half the salary.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 07:58
I agree entirely NNS. I accept bringing in a player like Arscott with his experience at this stage of the season looks a good move, but he won't have come cheap, and has he proved he is any better than Oli Goss, Prell, or McColl? I'll also be very surprised if he is here next season, another reason to take care of our own young players who might be if we look after them.

COME ON LEEDS.
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JDH (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 13:54
[yorkshirecarnegie.com]

You were right Haxby. Prell released and gray confirmed as released.

I rated Taylor. Hope the club have a plan and not a black hole!

 
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Rocky's Dad (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 13:56
Offy

Two more on the way out Prell & Gray

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 14:06
Have a horrible feeling about next season

 
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bird lover (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 14:38
Me to we are unloading loads something is not right COLT!!!!

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 15:44
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Me to we are unloading loads something is not right COLT!!!!

If the Carnegie money is running out, then the club are just cutting their cloth accordingly.

Which, given the demise of London Welsh, is entirely right surely.

 
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Rocky (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 15:59
Living within your means is fine, it however brings into sharper focus the wasteful nature of the club on journeymen and poor appointments which fly in the face of the 'Yorkshire Rugby' objectives.

10 years of £££, many years of waste and not enough of success.

I will be sad to say goodbye to a large swathe of long serving players.

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 18:55
Agree on all counts Rocky.

Apart from the academy, the club has been a basket case and it will continue to be one until we appoint the right DOR.

But if the Carnegie funding ends this year, we have to face up to it and cut our cloth accordingly.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 19:33
Ming, what have we been doing the last 3 years? We knew the Carnegie money was coming to an end. The whole 'Yorkshire' thing should have compensated for this happening, but it doesn't look like it has. That is what annoys me, and losing good young players, who we should be using to build for the future, does not inspire me with confidence.

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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 20:02
I think for the last 3 years we have thrown money at experienced journeymen in a bid to get promotion before the Carnegie money ran out.

Premiership status would've given a better platform from which to attract new funding to replace the Carnegie money and also a years worth of Premiership money plus a parachute payment.

However, due to poor judgement on the players we brought in as well as young players we've released (Pierce Phillips springs immediately to mind), it didn't happen and now we have to face up to it or, potentially, go the way of London Welsh.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 20:16
Really what people are saying is that we will be a championship side for a number of years with a reduced squad.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 20:38
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Ming, what have we been doing the last 3 years? We knew the Carnegie money was coming to an end. The whole 'Yorkshire' thing should have compensated for this happening, but it doesn't look like it has. That is what annoys me, and losing good young players, who we should be using to build for the future, does not inspire me with confidence.

Hax, to be fair the whole Yorkshire thing was based on promoting players from our enhanced "Gold Standard" academy, supplemented by some experienced heads. So maybe we have brought in the wrong guys, but older players, wanting to rekindle their career in the grind that is the Championship, can soon get disillusioned. A bit hit and miss, for example, Andy Saul has underperformed (although I would not dispute his effort) but then we have had Dean Schofield playing the best rugby of his career, earlier this season.
But then, we are second, and have a credible, if not exactly odds-on, chance of achieving Premiership status.
We either need mega-millions - a la Bristol - or a lot of luck. But we are not dead.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 20:48
Almo, that's the problem. The "Gold Standard" academy players have been allowed to leave. Hill, Rieder, Jack Walker, Boyce, Rowan, and plenty more, have moved on because we haven't delivered what I believe they were promised. You could almost pick an entire team of 'Academy' players who are now playing in the Premiership. The question is, why aren't they playing Premiership rugby at Headingley?

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27/03/2017 21:00
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The question is, why aren't they playing Premiership rugby at Headingley?

Because we haven't put the right DOR in place to deliver it

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 21:11
It's a bit chicken and egg IMHO. We develop good players but they will inevitably leave because we cannot offer Premiership rugby. The good players we have developed inevitably come through in dribs and drabs, we have never had a "golden generation" of players who could get promotion against the odds. The closest was the J-Lo team who sadly lost at Oxford Welsh, but even then we needed to beat Bristol.

Sadly lots more cash than we have required, unless you are lucky.

 
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Mark_C (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 21:49
I find it pretty heartbreaking to see the number of ex Leeds/Yorkshire academy players regularly turning out for established Premiership sides. It is felt by some that Leeds being in the Championship is the ideal shop window for young players getting regular game time that they would not get if they were from a Premiership academy. The player I feel the most for is Richard Beck, surely deserving of senior international honours which he would doubtless have had with more Premiership experience.

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JDH (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 22:06
I agree with almost here. There has to be a mix of youth and experienced quality. Without a barrow of cash and prem Rugby you don't keep your best. Even with that you can still lose them but the disappointment is eased by good replacements.

I wouldnt feel sorry for Beck. He is free to push on if he wishes. The club have stuck by him through injuries.

I think we need to know what to expect for next season as soon as but more likely when the seasons over.

I wonder what the plan is if we suddenly click and storm to promotion?.....

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
27/03/2017 22:37
JDH. Ha ha

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 07:37
I think the plans for next year were pretty much drawn up when JL was announced immediately as head coach, whilst in his last tenure we played an exciting brand of rugby he isn't proven at getting out of a league, BR was a big statement of intent after the Mercer debacle as someone with premiership coaching experience,

Admittedly we need an experienced DOR but also the experiment of getting players back to the club has failed as they don't have promotion experience either, the MCcoll & Ford experiment has failed so badly that Cusack seems the best returnee we have had this year and he is no way fit and nowhere near what's to be expected of a premiership prop,

We have spent an awful lot of money for little return We are way behind LI and not that far ahead of Donny Jersey Ealing etc, maybe with Bristol looking likely in coming down and first past the post next year it's a good time to cut our cloth and regroup

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 09:20
I understand that Ealing have a bigger player salary budget than us, and they are below us. Shows how hard it is to buy success when you are subject to the weekly grind of the Championship.

 
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longleglad (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 10:59
I spoke with Prell the other week, and he said the club were releasing him Goss, and someone else..said they wanted to spend the money on keeping Arscott at Carnegie.. Seems Quinns and Saints were semi interested but nothing concrete as he hadn't played that much..

Maybe your right and someone either at the club or who has been at the club put a word in for a change to RL... shame as I agree that FB is his best position and he could have been a dangerous player for us... really poor from the club but maybe a good move for WW.....I get that you bring players in to improve the team, but if anything we have slipped back since all the new arrivals... a run of poor losses until the weekend..

 
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JohnnyP (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 11:41
Staggered at tigers interest in JF. Nepotism still alive and kicking I reckon.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 11:45
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I spoke with Prell the other week, and he said the club were releasing him Goss, and someone else..said they wanted to spend the money on keeping Arscott at Carnegie.. Seems Quinns and Saints were semi interested but nothing concrete as he hadn't played that much..
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Somebody from the club told me at Doncaster, that we could get 3 decent players for the same money as a player who left recently, and that was good business.Now here we are hearing that 3 players are being released to pay for keeping another player here, who, lets face it, hasn't looked any better than those named above. What can we make of that.
Good job we have a message board!

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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 12:12
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Staggered at tigers interest in JF. Nepotism still alive and kicking I reckon.

Still think he was a signing that had to be made knee-jerk as sinfield was supposed to be on 18 month deal, and HL was released to pastures new, also think JF and his associates will have known this and wouldn't have come cheap, reckon his departure will free up plenty,

Just a matter of whether seals is seen as the future as good quality 10's seem to be thin on the ground at the level we will probably be in

 
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calummckenzie2 (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 12:22
I'd have Glyn Hughes back - for all his faults - on his day, I think he is probably one of the best 10s Carnegie have had (Lozowski aside) in recent years.
His performance in that first leg semi-final against London Welsh was excellent and is my abiding memory of him.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 12:58
I'd go for Harry Leonard, good all round player, and (apart from Jersey last season), a reliable kicker.

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Tyko (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 14:34
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Staggered at tigers interest in JF. Nepotism still alive and kicking I reckon.

.....alive and kicking. But not particularly well (Sm133)

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 14:41
I like Hughes but when the pressures on I don't think he cuts it.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 14:59
Pretty certain Davies was a utility back and was accomplished at 10 and can kick, no harm in trying him at 10 and green/fox at 9

seals/davies at 10 green/fox at 9 if as discussed next season will be of rebuilding do we need more, pennies better spent elsewhere?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 15:20
If there is one issue that has hindered us in the last decade its not having a quality all round flyhalf / 80% kicker with decent young backup.
That said I bet Davies is a better 10 than 9.

 
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Selby Kev (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 17:47
Do we have any real Premiership ambition this season? Jersey beating Irish was timely?...they are-just about-beatable? With a full strength team we will be no push over?

Where is Brush with some passion and a strategy for the play offs? I presume we do really want to go up???? Am I missing something....our PR stuff seems a little subdued??

Ealing a big game to lay down the right marker? Thought our defence looked better on Sunday....But was disappointed in Jo's kicking game.

The play offs will be all about a few points here and there..and that will be it?....He needs to practice conversions 24/7 and demonstrate some improvement?...unless just a bad hairv day? Does Seals deserve a run next week??

 
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28/03/2017 18:59
Davies is a 9 and a really good one at that. He's been my pick of the players that have come in. I think he's excellent. If he's got any sense he'll be off in all honesty. I'd give my right arm for Glynn Hughes and Harry Leonard back even at 10 and 12 respectively. Significantly better than JF. I'd have CG at full back, Goss on one wing and not sure about the other wing. There you would have a number of backs with talent and consistent triers. Unlike some of our current cohort.

 
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JohnnyP (IP Logged)
28/03/2017 20:09
Poster on Rolling Mail said that Glyn is playing the season out for Bury St Edmunds in Nat 2. Absolute waste.

 
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bird lover (IP Logged)
29/03/2017 12:18
Ford to Tigers should have come out on first of April !!! To give it credibility!!!!! COLT !!!!

 
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SideStep (IP Logged)
10/04/2017 09:12
Taylor Prell has signed a 2 year deal with Warrington. Best of luck to him. Would love to at least see us linked with somebody soon!

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carlascough (IP Logged)
10/04/2017 09:18
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I'd have Glyn Hughes back - for all his faults - on his day, I think he is probably one of the best 10s Carnegie have had (Lozowski aside) in recent years.
His performance in that first leg semi-final against London Welsh was excellent and is my abiding memory of him.

You see my abiding memory of him is him choking in the second leg. It depends on your aspirations, I suppose. You're right, he was decent at this level, on his day. But if you want to be at the big table then we really need to sign players who are quality. With no caveats.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
10/04/2017 11:25
Him choking in the second leg is my lasting memory too.
Flats had a good line on the prem itv highlights last night. He said you need to spend money on a 10 with "Visible X-Factor".

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
10/04/2017 12:19
I can't imagine we will be splashing a lot of cash anytime soon. News of a few contract renewals would not go amiss right now. We will need some players next season.

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11/04/2017 07:00
Joel Hodgson was the one with visible X Factor. Good enough to play for Falcons in the Premiership but not good enough to hold down a regular place with us apparently. Lost another good one there due to bad selection and management policy. I also thought Harry Leonard could have been very good for us.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
11/04/2017 10:03
It is a bit worrying that we have heard nothing on signings just departures. Have a nasty

feeling on this for next year. If we do get promoted where is the money coming from to buy new players. Premiership money I believe comes at end of season not begining

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
11/04/2017 11:58
There certainly seems to be some financial uncertainty out there: however, our new board came along very much with the expectation that we would achieve Premiership status, so I would be surprised if they did not stump up some cash if we achieve promotion this season.

Whether it would be enough to avoid instant relegation back to the Championship is another matter.

 
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bspa2 (IP Logged)
11/04/2017 14:04
We didn't lose Joel Hodgson. As was clear from their website, he had been sent elsewhere to get more experience.

 
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JohnnyP (IP Logged)
11/04/2017 16:52
If the benchmark for a young player of not being up to it is one poor half then it's a very high bar indeed and where does that leave our current incumbent? 😳

 
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bird lover (IP Logged)
12/04/2017 08:13
Did not loose Joel ??? Redpath would not play him only at 15 he is a ten and better on one leg than Ford so whats that all about ???? Were is our DOR in all this best players all leaving and NO signings something is wrong !!!!!COLT!!!

 
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12/04/2017 08:38
Exactly bird lover

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
12/04/2017 11:32
As Bspa2 says above, if Joel did well with us, he was always going back to Newcastle. That's why he was on a 1 year contract.

We didn't lose him.

Redpath playing him out of position is a different issue which I don't believe had any bearing on his decision to leave.



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almostatyke (IP Logged)
12/04/2017 14:44
Brush also had to play Sinfield at 10 for commercial reasons, remember.

 
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12/04/2017 20:06
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Brush also had to play Sinfield at 10 for commercial reasons, remember.

And whoever made that commitment has no place in the management of any Rugby Union side. It is the main reason I did not buy a season ticket this year.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
17/04/2017 19:35
I know I have said it before but why all the silence from headquarters. Other clubs are announcing arrivals. All we get is departures. Let us know please who is staying. This is the quite st the club has ever been and does worry me

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
17/04/2017 19:54
At some point they'll be announcing that we're Tykes again so maybe they're saving the new signings to be announced at the same time - like a re launch type thing.

Then again, maybe there just aren't any signings to announce due to no Carnegie money!

 
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17/04/2017 20:08
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Then again, maybe there just aren't any signings to announce due to no Carnegie money!

Sadly this rings true with me.

 
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18/04/2017 06:30
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At some point they'll be announcing that we're Tykes again so maybe they're saving the new signings to be announced at the same time - like a re launch type thing.
Then again, maybe there just aren't any signings to announce due to no Carnegie money!

Noticed Team shirts are on offer in shop but everything else still full price, would have thought if a brand name change "everything must go"

Although can also imagine not that much gear in stock room anyway

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
18/04/2017 09:52
Looking forward to some tykes merchandise!

 
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Looking forward to some tykes merchandise!

Need a 'Like' button for that one!

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
23/04/2017 11:07
I see Matt Smith talking about leaving at end of season. Said some had not contracts renewed and others released due to the short fall of £1 million for next season. I fear that if we do not go up this year we will end up a mid table club. Also if the players know who is going it would be nice to let the fans know.

 
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I see Matt Smith talking about leaving at end of season. Said some had not contracts renewed and others released due to the short fall of £1 million for next season. I fear that if we do not go up this year we will end up a mid table club. Also if the players know who is going it would be nice to let the fans know.

Read the same article looks grim reading. Would be nice for some news.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
24/04/2017 14:27
Not seen the article, but hardly a surprise, these lads have families to look after. How can the club go into an important semi final expecting the players to give everything when they don't kniw if they will be offeres new deals? Shabby.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
24/04/2017 16:38
This is typical of the club. No care of the short term . Wait to see if we go up, if we do they will have jobs. If not then decisions can be made. If we do go up where we going to get players from now

 
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bspa2 (IP Logged)
24/04/2017 17:16
It is not rocket science to work out that £1m shortfall can only be met in one of two ways - be promoted or reduce the squad. A responsible management should have worked out who are core to the future and reassured people where it can. Unless there are sudden new donors, he increased losses cannot be financed. Nobody likes cutbacks but complaining about the management in such circumstances is unrealistic

 
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24/04/2017 19:14
I would be very surprised if players didn't already know what the club were or were not offering for those out of contract.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
24/04/2017 22:41
Matt Smith said that but as a paying supporter it would be nice to know

 
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Madtyke (IP Logged)
25/04/2017 05:09
Come on get real, when have Leeds/Yorkshire Carnegie ever given a toss about supporters. They treat us like mushrooms and contempt.. No wonder the crowds have dropped off. Think I might be doing a Mark Cotton next season as it's frustrating supporting a team who I started watching in the early 90s. There is no atmosphere anymore.

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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
25/04/2017 07:31
Playing for contracts gives added pressure to the players.

Had to re apply for my job twice and that's sat in an office with my gaffer not having to play 4 cup finals and that was bad enough

Could galvanise them I suppose but livelihoods are at stake no more ah well there is always next year

 
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25/04/2017 09:05
There is the possibility that players will treat the play-offs as a shop window. Have a couple of good games then get signed up by a Prem club. Stranger things have happened.

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CheshireTyke (IP Logged)
25/04/2017 10:06
So if the outcome is that Irish win the finals and get promotion. What happens to us? £1mil shortfall, can't afford to renew players contracts, bring in the academy as replacements. But isn't that going back to square one 6 years ago? Comes down to again the ambition of the club. They have known this money is going to stop for 8 years, since they made the deal, so why hasn't something been put in place to either extend the current deal or to bring in further investment? There are people willing to bankroll clubs in the championship (Ealing and jersey) so why is it impossible to get Leeds to get someone to fund us through the championship until we do get into the prem. With this squad it wouldn't take much investment and quality to get us there. Massive shame if get to this point and then to give up. Sadly can see that happening.

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
25/04/2017 13:01
I have to say that I find thd last post a bit baffling. Caddick put in millions but sustained success didn't come, nor did enough people. He sold a majority stake to Carnegie but they realised they had dropped a b*ll*ck and had to sell it back in return for a fixed outlay for 10 years.

He made it clear that there would be no more deep pockets and continued to look to offoad the club but no-one was forthcoming. Only after the Yorkshire re-branding and Geech taking a bigger role did a small bunch of new investors begin to appear. My impression is that, whilst they are not in it to make a financial return, neither are they going to throw unlimited millions at the club in the hope of eventually making the Premiership.

I am sure that the club has been doing its best to find other sponsors but no-one was ever going to stump up £1M a year again. What is there to sell? TV coverage is minimal and crowds in decline. If they are having to say we'd like to keep you but need to see what happens in the play-offs (so if you get a better offer so be-it), well that's just how it has to be. Better that and remain financially secure than do a London Welsh.

If there was a rugby-mad bloke in Yorkshire with tens of millions to burn I think we would have heard of him by now.

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CheshireTyke (IP Logged)
25/04/2017 13:58
Yes, the board has always said it's going to be sustainable which is the only and sensible option. But with that surely means near enough admitting that we aren't going to be seriously challenging for promotion. Will be turning into a Bedford, Scottish alike, signing reasonably good players and if get into the play offs then will give it a shot but will always be an outside. Nothing baffling about it.

 
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25/04/2017 15:13
"Pistol" Pete Lucock has re-signed for another year!

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25/04/2017 18:46
Excellent news that

 
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25/04/2017 19:10
Get Smith & Beck re-signed, tonight!

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
25/04/2017 22:11
No chance

 
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30/04/2017 09:26
Interesting article in the Rugby paper today 30th of April page 38 under the news section. It's claims that there going to be more championship clubs going part time, and Carnegy are linking up with Bath next year and Andy Rock 'Rocky' to bringing Bath players in to support the club. It's now or never for the premiership, and after a great win on Friday night against Ealing let's hope we put Ealing to the sword next Friday and we turn up in the final over two legs, looks like will be watching some Bath players next season along with our own talent if we are in the Championship!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
30/04/2017 10:23
Let's hope so. Bath have a rich backer but are still struggling.

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
30/04/2017 16:30
Two words...


Jack Walker.


#justsaying

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
30/04/2017 17:12
If we do. I would prefer minimum numbers and not young bath players playing were YC ones could be. I would rather see our own develop whilst losing than see baths 2s win.

But we will probably be in the AP anyway so...........

 
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Madtyke (IP Logged)
30/04/2017 19:47
Although no official statement by YC Gareth Jones confirmed on Friday that Jonah had signed for the Tigers.

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
01/05/2017 10:40
Also in match report in the rugby paper it said joe was joining his brother. Does anyone have a real idea of who is going

 
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01/05/2017 21:12
One word, No!

Lol

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Beeston Lion (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 07:42
I think Joe's performance on Friday means that , if rumours are true, we will be losing rather more than some have previously thought!

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 12:48
Wuss are letting 18 players go. Mr Biggs and Slowik are amongst them. Not seen biggs play in years but I thought Slowik was a really good prospect given a run.

 
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Albert Fishwick (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 12:59
I didn't realise Tom was still playing!

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JDH (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 14:13
Without looking he must be about 30 now? Burst on the scene 2005 ish at 18.
He was great to watch in those first years.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 14:59
Some solid players released among them Ryan Lamb, maybe a little long in the tooth nowadays but thought he would have brought on Harry Leonard a couple of years back,

 
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02/05/2017 20:43
Tweeted by Gareth Jones

Yorkshire Carnegie confirm departures: Joe Ford, Oli Goss, Jonah Holmes, Rob O’Donnell, Dan Sanderson, Andy Saull,Warren Seals; Chris Walker.

Rebranded as ‘Yorkshire Carnegie’

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 20:48
Knew about Goss, but for me, him, O'Donnell and Wacker should have been kept.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 20:54
No fly half in place for next season then

Situation normal

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 21:03
Hopefully we are keeping Josh Bainbridge then?

I like Goss. Really tough player that always gives everything.
Walker been around for along time. Great skill set with good hands but not a dominant 7 imo. Good player though. The rest I expected except rob but we do have about 9 props.

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 21:42
The names not mentioned as leaving are pretty sound - Bainbridge, Beck amongst them. Some contracts still to be sorted so not right to share conversations here, ditto a re-signing.

Schofield had me going as they didn't announce his retirement. When I asked him he said he was doing one more year and very convincing he was in stringing me along for a minute until he said not was a joke - his body just can't take it.

Should find out where Joe is going soon - Gareth interviewed him.

I'm gutted about Wacka.

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
02/05/2017 21:43
Plus burrows leaving. Can they tell us who is staying

 
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03/05/2017 07:03
I'm really sorry to say this but we are going to turn into just an enthusiastic development team by the looks of it. And, to be honest, who can blame the hierarchy for that. Crowds poor, marketing poor, not a brilliant brand of rugby to watch, poor player recruitment/selection. The list goes on. The rugby management has a lot to answer for. I suppose we should have seen it coming earlier in the season when Jimmy was designated head coach for next season. Whoever decided that wants their head looking at but the writing was on the wall then.
Even if we did go up can anyone honestly say we would be in a position to compete ? I don't think so. We have already lost our best players for next season and we would just get the usual journeymen again. Ringfencing is the ONLY answer. Shame on the RU for pulling up the drawbridge and ignoring adequate funds to the Championship. And I say that on behalf of all the other Championship clubs as well as Carnegie.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 07:16
Will have to wait till play offs are done and dusted to get signings announced but looking like will the last one out please switch off the lights,

No offence intended to any player not yet announced as leaving but from whoever is left is not premiership quality, hate being negative but even if we were to beat Irish in final without Ryan Jonah Lewis etc we are nowhere near, may as well say we are staying put and cut our cloth Arscott and Elder are sure to follow


if we were to go up it's another panic buy couple of weeks just like London Welsh had, prepared to be shot down in flames and I have my tin hat on ready but we need out of these play offs ASAP,

Ringfencing needs to happen but won't no-one cares about championship only prem club that comes down, Sky are a prime example, let's not become a London Welsh

 
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John R (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 07:18
I'm with Haxby on this....

Goss, Wacker and O'Donnell.................astounded that they should be going!

Up the Yorkshire Carnegie TYKES !

 
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calummckenzie2 (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 07:38
I suppose the only thing with Joe Ford going is the club will have got some sort of fee for him as he still had two years left on his deal.
It is promising as well that Elder and Arscott weren't mentioned among the leavers last night. Hopefully with a smaller squad and some wages off the bill the club can try to keep them. I think keeping hold of Arscott might be easier than Elder.

 
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SideStep (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 07:55
So each time Joe Ford returns to this club I'm one of the few positive people it seems as I like the lad. But seriously one season here now off to the Tigers? This tin pot club of ours has got to that point where it doesn't p*ss me off anymore as it gets to a stage of the inevitable and not caring. Just hope some half decent replacement gets signed or brought up through the academy.

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Gelbel (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 09:16
Hardly the club's fault if Joe wants to Foxtrot Oscar for more dosh - if it is Leicester he so hope he enjoys his time watching his brother.

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 10:13
Joe had his best game, ever, for us last Friday!!

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 10:55
Elder and Arscott were only signed until the end of the season. We are certainly going to have a much smaller squad next season but at least the pretention of being an ambitious club will have evaporated. I for one would enjoy seeing more academy lads in the matchday squad. Our outgoing mgr never seemed to have much faith in them. Who knows, some of the younger lads, if given the opportunity, might step up to the plate and surprise us all.

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JDH (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 13:39
Gareth just clarified sanderson was not on the leaving list.

 
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03/05/2017 14:05
[yorkshirecarnegie.com]

Josh Bainbridge re-signs.

 
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03/05/2017 14:28
That doubles our re-signs

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 16:16
Talking to a Tigers supporter nothing has been mentioned about Joe joining. They're not excitec

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 16:37
Great resigning. Hopefully he stays fit and has a good season.

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 19:14
We've been down the 'buddy club' route before with Sale. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. It only benefits the Premiership club.

Taking that route would, for me, signify the end of any ambition we may have had to be a Premiership club.

 
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Tyko (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 19:18
So much activity, so little news - on this thread.

 
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jezaroo (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 19:44
Hi don't often post on here but been interested to know if anyone know what's happening with Nilsen? Spoke with him after a game a few weeks ago and he said he was out of contract, note he wasn't on the list of departures but the club haven't announced him staying????? Surely with Buzz, Jonah and Ford going we aren't going to let another experienced and club man such as him go? Would mean we would be left with the dismal Mayhew and young Ross? Big gap would be left by his departure.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 19:56
Article in the times saying AP A league being extended and buddy clubs not going ahead. Makes sense as most championship club rejected the idea?
Someone who subscribes to the time may be able to post the article.
Hopefully we have all the leavers rapped up in one go and it's good news from here.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
03/05/2017 20:10
I am pleased that some honesty is now shown: an extended "A" league is exactly what it says on the tin. The false assumption that the Championship could sort of accommodate this function but also be a competitive league in its own right has now been rightly abandoned. How can you have a serious league when "star" players appear and disappear at the whims of Premiership clubs, and how distorting is it when a genuine Championship club loses to a team temporarily bouyed by star guests?
It has recently been confirmed that promotion/relegation between the Premiership and the Championship will continue. As long as this is the case the Championship must be a competitive league without distortion from dual-registered players.
If the finances are not in place to support this (despite the recent most commercially successful-ever RWC) then let us see some honesty: the Championship can go part-time or regional.

 
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04/05/2017 06:21
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Hi don't often post on here but been interested to know if anyone know what's happening with Nilsen? Spoke with him after a game a few weeks ago and he said he was out of contract, note he wasn't on the list of departures but the club haven't announced him staying????? Surely with Buzz, Jonah and Ford going we aren't going to let another experienced and club man such as him go? Would mean we would be left with the dismal Mayhew and young Ross? Big gap would be left by his departure.

Phil is out of contract this year and really wants to remain at YC.

 
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bird lover (IP Logged)
05/05/2017 07:19
Premiership Promotion and relegation will be continued to allow Bristol back up then with most of Championship Clubs Semi Pro the Door will be shut. COLT!!!!

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
06/05/2017 07:29
In the programme last night Arscott is added to list of leavers no mention of Elder

 
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
06/05/2017 22:10
Arscott and Catterick have both been injured, so not had chance to impress, but I cannot understand why we signed Arscott, He will have cost a lot of money and was always going to be looking for a Premiership contract at the end pf the season. Was he worth it, and was it worth releasing Prell and Goss so we could pay him? I don't think so.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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06/05/2017 23:47
Catterick?? Forgot we had him !!

 
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06/05/2017 23:49
20 mins and that's your lot!

 
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
06/05/2017 23:49
Let's be realistic, watching LI today we do not stand a chance over two legs. If the gods prevail and we did prevail where are we going to get the players to compete in the premiership. Let's be realistic we will be an average premiership club

 
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
07/05/2017 07:33
Realistically if we were not in the final we would definitely not stand a chance. However we are. So, in my book, we do stand a chance. Nothing is impossible at this stage. Ask Bristol about the seasons when they finished top by miles and then tripped up at the final hurdle.

"...we would be an average premiership club."

Well everyone associated with the club (except you of course) would consider that to be a satisfactory outcome.

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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
07/05/2017 08:01
WW. It was a typing error meant average championship club not premiership. Too much red wine

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
07/05/2017 11:29
Let's just get behind the team and enjoy these next to games.

 
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08/05/2017 08:04
Anything can happen over two legs. Pressure all on LI although in my heart I don't think we're anywhere near as good as they are. I'll be keeping everything crossed.

 
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08/05/2017 16:48
They have to perform, pressure time!

Just need to keep them in our sights at HC, then who knows!

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08/05/2017 18:23
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They have to perform, pressure time!
Just need to keep them in our sights at HC, then who knows!

Yeah, I completely agree

If we can go to the second leg on level terms then it becomes a winner takes all 80 min rugby match with all the pressure on Irish. And in to those circumstances, owt can 'appen.

 
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delthedoor (IP Logged)
11/05/2017 12:48
Brizzler in peace, given what happened to London Welsh and the debacle of our recent brutal reality check, do you really want promotion? I've found it thoroughly depressing to the extent that I gave up attending .

 
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leemingtyke (IP Logged)
11/05/2017 13:22
Obviously I can only speak for myself, but I don't mind either way.

It would be a massive upset if we could turn Irish over and, from a sporting perspective, I'd love to see us achieve that.

However I'm realistic enough to know that we would get absolutely battered in the Premiership. On a good day I think we'd lose by 20 points, on a bad one it'd be embarrassing.

As I've said on here before though, this is sport and you play to win or you don't bother playing at all. So, yes I hope we turn Irish over and go up. Whatever happens next is part of the adventure.

 
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delthedoor (IP Logged)
11/05/2017 15:29
That's the right attitude I s'pose.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
11/05/2017 16:38
i agree with leemings answer and would add that there is a diminishing appetite for the same old same old Championship stuff, as reflected in our shrinking "gates", and trouble getting sponsors.
If we go up I suspect we will adopt the same attitude as Richmond did when promoted to the Championship: living within our means, "better to lose 22 games than lose the club". The first season would be a disaster but the parachute payment and removal of Play-Offs would set us up for a subsequent promotion which might be more fruitful.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
11/05/2017 20:47
Spot on answer Leeming. I feel the same way. If we go up i suspect we won't spend loads and get some hidings but we would be in the AP. Or staying the champ and watch the young leeds lads have a crack. Either way keep on supporting!

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
12/05/2017 13:31
We're going to close this thread - please use part 2.

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