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Friday night lights - London Scottish


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By WW
October 18 2018

On Friday night we welcome London Scottish to the Emerald stadium for a  night time league fixture under the lights. Friday fixtures get a mixed reception from the home fans but after recent performances the faithful will be glad to get the fixture out of the way so they can enjoy the rest of the weekend.

The Exiles have been established in the Championship for a number of years now. This season has not started well for the side which plays its home games in Richmond. They have won only 2 of the first 7 fixtures and sit ninth in the table on 13 points which includes 5 bonus points. Both wins have come on the road, at Richmond and at Bedford. The 3 teams below the Exiles are Doncaster, Hartpury and Carnegie.

We are bottom of the table with 1 win and 6 defeats. We have scored the fewest points and conceded the most. We are on 6 points, 3 adrift of Hartpury who beat us on the opening day of the season. Those are the facts, shocking as they are and the tremors they have caused have been felt as far away as Turkey.

Most of us knew that the squad was too thin to sustain a serious tilt at the top spot. Few of us suspected that we would be where we are  after 7 games.  Chris Stirling has acted quickly to put things right and the board have backed him.  Reinforcements have been lined up and have started to arrive. Craig Mitchell will add his formidable  scrummaging power to the starting pack as he makes his second debut for the club. Add to that that 2 Kiwis will be arriving in a couple of weeks and we can look forward to the cup break with a little more confidence than we have at the moment.

Friday also sees the return of Pete Lucock after injury which will bolster the defence. Mike Myerscough and Joe Buckle also return but we are still without a number of long term injured players.

All of us will be looking to see how the squad react after last weekend's mauling at the Madstad. I hope that they will draw a line under last week and see  Friday's fixture as a potential  5 points. However the performance will be equally important as the result. A win might lift us off the bottom of the table as Hartpury have a tough home game against Jersey. I am taking Carnegie to win by 5 points and start the long climb up the league table.

C'mon Carnegie!

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leeds_shark
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WPL (IP Logged)
18/10/2018 15:36
I watched scottish a couple of weeks ago at Bedford - they won but as it transpired Bedford had been hit by a sickness bug that actually led them to asking for the game to be postponed.

They are a well organised team with a couple of big ball carrying forwards and from memory a big center. Defense will have to be on top form.

Good to see some returning from injures and some strength coming back in, 5 points would be very nice, but a good performance and a W is key for me!

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
18/10/2018 16:57
I think WPL (nee Leeds_shark) has hit the nail on the head.

I also like the photo and caption: are those machine-gun posts, where the now redundant floodlight towers are?

(Sm100)

 
wildwillie
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 15:09
Tonight's officials are:

Green King RFU Championship
Yorkshire Carnegie v London Scottish
Referee: Anthony Woodthorpe
ARs: Jamie Leahy & Simon Park

(Sm124)

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 15:23
No heard of Woodthorpe.

 
John R
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John R (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 16:50
Hope he's better than the one's we have had so far this season....?

 
wildwillie
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 18:53
0-12 after 13 mins (2 tries)

 
wildwillie
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 19:10
Try for Chris Elder on 30 min.

 
wildwillie
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 19:20
Halftime score 5-12.

 
RedcarTyke
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RedcarTyke (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 20:07
Calvary can't come fast enough, hopefully better times ahead, currently we are making a average team look good 😔

 
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Madtyke (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 20:17
I've left early as I can't justify keeping kids out any later to watch this dross. The confidence in the team has fallen away sharply and simple reading of the game isn't there. Scottish ran a simple move for their 3rd try that my lads U12s could have defended.

Might be back after the Xmas break.

[www.arborfieldoldboys.co.uk]

 
headingleytyke
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 20:21
Listen on bbc. Awful. I am back n uk during next week and as I am close to coventry was going to go to game next weekend. Not wasting my money

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 21:01
It was just a poor game, not through lack of effort just a scrappy game, Mitchell played himself to a standstill Lucock was Lucock Temm was what he has been all season,

Low points for me Currie getting injured in warm up and only team I know who don't empty the bench think issues injury wise are even deeper, would like to see JB on much earlier just quickens things up think this was a game that points would have been hoped for,

Lower points than that,. Great having students with their free beers if they watch the game and stop dicking around, also whoever told the band to do one after spontaneously erupting in first half deserves MOM I didn't mind them on pitch but it's not soccer leave it out during game

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 21:20
What has being a poor game got to do with it? We've won poor games before, it's the result that matters. Now cast adrift at the bottom of a very average league. Is everybody happy with that?

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 21:50
Quote:
Haxbytyke
What has being a poor game got to do with it? We've won poor games before, it's the result that matters. Now cast adrift at the bottom of a very average league. Is everybody happy with that?


It was a poor game simple we have no Devine right to win any game and we have had results when itís been a poor game but we had a full strength squad to pick from and when we lose our back row sub in the warm up and have to bring a hooker on in the back row with a centre at 10 and a winger at 13 a full back at 11 2 props who have had less than 7 days with the squad and no real training as no numbers to train against

coupled with the pressure of being the bottom club which does have an effect especially if they read some shite some stay away posters put on here then no of course people arenít happy but it is what it is till the reinforcements come until then those who want the fight will have to dig in that includes supporters

Donít expect everyone to agree but there it is, Iím coming back and Iíll try and stay positive it is hard and it is frustrating but we all give up like some on here and we may as well say to the board save your brass letís give lower league a go with Roth,

 
Scuffer
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Scuffer (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 21:56
We were pretty clueless tonight again unfortunately. Mitchell strengthened the scrum and was good in the loose also but the lineout was appalling again. We canít generate any momentum and we seem totally bereft of ideas in attack. It is very depressing to watch. Their second try was a gift with 2 missed tackles and their try in the second half was as easy as you can get. Hats off to Pete Luciock though who gave everything and must have been shattered having been out injured for a while. Big changes required sharpish.

 
Farmertyke1
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Farmertyke1 (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 21:59
The worry for me was that you could not knock the team through lack of effort , it is just that most of what they do is poor. We spent 10 minutes in the oppositions 22 and had 3 penalties given and still came away with no points having fuffed the last penalty line out.
Andy Forsyth is not a 10 and his kicking was woeful at times.
As Opus has said Mitchell had a good return but was kippered by the end having played till full time.
The line out was desperate .
But I donít think things can get any worse, can they ?

 
haxbytyke
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Haxbytyke (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 22:01
Quote:
opuscoitus
Quote:
Haxbytyke
What has being a poor game got to do with it? We've won poor games before, it's the result that matters. Now cast adrift at the bottom of a very average league. Is everybody happy with that?


It was a poor game simple we have no Devine right to win any game and we have had results when itís been a poor game but we had a full strength squad to pick from and when we lose our back row sub in the warm up and have to bring a hooker on in the back row with a centre at 10 and a winger at 13 a full back at 11 2 props who have had less than 7 days with the squad and no real training as no numbers to train against

coupled with the pressure of being the bottom club which does have an effect especially if they read some shite some stay away posters put on here then no of course people arenít happy but it is what it is till the reinforcements come until then those who want the fight will have to dig in that includes supporters


Opus, we are short of players, not because of injuries, all teams have those, but because nobody will invest to strengthen the squad, and the budget is shot. The forum is for fans to express their opinions, and I have posted mine. You think it is shite, I think it is honest and realistic.

COME ON LEEDS.
We've been through it all together.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 22:05
With Forsyth at 10 is didn't limit our game tonight there wasn't any game. Simple as that.

They say these kind of times make you stronger. Well if we come out of this we will be the F**king incredible hulk!

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 22:19
Beck, Smith, Cope, Mayhew, Lloyd, Mcquillan, a couple returned tonight, and others I forgot off the top of my head, that is an injury list of epic proportions with a squad as small as ours and these are experienced campaigners

Mitchell has arrived 2 kiwis are coming the lad Currie (admittedly not the best of starts tonight) the promise of more signings coming, we were told at the meeting at the Bedford game funds had been released, without those numbers on the training ground the team cannot possibly train properly,

I didn't say your opinion was shite if you read the post correctly and everyone is entitled to an opinion, however I will add the people who turn up and watch the game and pay their moneys opinions carry more water than people who don't go because of a name change or because we are not a Prem side or because it's not the same anymore, basically sulkers... people might have gone to headingley through different guises of the club but you stop paying and stop going doesn't matter if you went for a hundred years if you live just up the road and can't be arsed going anymore in my opinion there is a shite opinion

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 22:32
The injuries yes but that team should play better than that tonight and the other games this season.

We have seen that much poor play in the last season plus, that our expectations have been dimmed.

There was no control on any part of tonight's game. Scottish looked like the home team. Dominating possession. We have no out. Kicking aimlessly and inviting them straight back on to us. Our offence is flat as a pancake. Truck it up rubbish. When did you last see us score a try like the LS last effort? Just a nice easy training ground move.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 22:43
Donít think we will see that line up again when league fixtures resume, definite bare bones CS already indicated 2 kiwis off the plane onto pitch next week

Thraves could be 4/5 weeks so maybe we will need another loose head as well as all the rest

Personally beg steal borrow from Beckett or whoever for the cup games bed in new ones give young Davey a crack at 10 donít risk anyone and do a 6 week pre season with rest of returnees,

Cup means nothing would rather forfeit the thing and go again with a fit and a squad to pick from

 
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Re: Friday night lights - London Scottish
JDH (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 22:52
You have to play them at some point before the league games again or they will go in colder than after preseason.
The optimism of the news this week was put to bed this eve. These guys are trying but the team collective performance is awful and there is no hiding from it.

 
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opuscoitus (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 23:01
agree they need to play but 1-15 needs to be playing in correct position,

 
Nosnibor
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Nosnibor (IP Logged)
19/10/2018 23:06
Well that was a bit rubbish.

Most of what I wanted to say has already been said above. Lucock and Mitchell couldn't have done any more and I feel sorry that they were part of such a lacklustre performance.

Scottish were just sharper and more dynamic in every aspect of the game. I couldn't fault the effort from our players, but their confidence is absolutely shot and it shows - big time. The shambolic lineout, juggling/dropping the ball and checking any go forward with passes behind the man were all symptoms of the problem. I honestly don't know where we go from here other than a wholesale clear out and start again.



I wondered what happened to Currie. Was looking forward to seeing him after his YouTube video. When you're down, nothing seems to go your way.

Have to disagree with Opus about the Bear Brass Band. I thought they and my halftime sandwich/soup were the best things about the evening.

 
Grybz
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Grybz (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 05:32
I have had my rant on the other thread about this match. One thing that did come to mind was that last season most of the tries we scored were from rolling mauls, which has not really worked this season. My feeling, especially as the scrummaging has been inadequate, is that the pack is a bit lightweight. The lack of attacking options was evident last season and has carried on into this season, so is that a coaching issue or a player issue? Last yseason we struggled wit( players out of position, in particular at fly half, which most would recognise as one of the most important positions, and here we are again. Injuries are almost inevitable, why do we not have adequate cover? I noticed that one of the exiles replacements was pictured in a Bath shirt, thought we were supposed to have some sort of arrangement with them, or is it that we just let them have our decent players?

In fairness to the students most seeemd to want to watch the match, but having seen it I suspect most wont return as quite a few near me seeemd to leave having seen enough. Maybe the club should consider free pints for season ticket holders!

 
Scuffer
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Scuffer (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 06:15
Can somebody explain to me why we are recruiting half way through the season rather than in the off season? Is it simply that pre-season we thought we could muddle through with the squad we have but we now realise we are in big relegation problems so they have been panicked into action? Or has the club been totally remiss in how they have planned for the season?

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 08:01
We can only do it now as funding has only been available now.

 
Farmertyke1
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Farmertyke1 (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 08:16
Have to agree with Opus that the catalyst to this bad run is largely injury driven. The bones of the team are having treatment and too many players are playing out of position. What is in effect a 6 game break for the team could not come at a better time.
As Scuffer says why have funds only now been made available, probably we will never know but at least money is now there.
Onwards and upwards.



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JDH (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 08:17
I wondered that too Grybz. How are we hear AGAIN with Forsyth at 10. Yes we got Cope but he wasn't going to play every game. They don't play Davey in the league so what was the back up option? Seems there was a lot of hoping imo. As said previously a lack of a quality 10 has killed this club over the years.

If that team turns out against Coventry it will get beat. We're in a massive f**king hole. The cup 6 weeks will be the most important weeks for a very long time. Cos at the moment everything has fallen flat.

 
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Gelbel (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 08:36
I think they are unfit - I know they had a load of work to do chasing Scottish but they were puffing at 30 mins.

Currie getting injured at warm up - you really couldn't make it up. Sums us up at the moment and what with Thraves going off early...

 
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Re: Friday night lights - London Scottish
JDH (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 09:33
There were a few out there coming back with little or no game time.
The whole situation is just so disappointing. There is just nothing they can fall back on because not one area of the game is going right, not one.
Once your in a rut it is difficult to get out, nothing goes right now matter how hard you try and the opposition smell blood. Ask Rotherham.

 
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JDH (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 18:37
See Coventry got panned by ealing today. Battle royal next week.

 
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almostatyke (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 19:11
Having been to the match, I have resisted posting because other posters have summarised the game, expressed feelings of frustration much more eloquently than I could, and anyway swear words get blurred out by SportsNetwork.
I was originally going to the Coventry match, but walking back from the ground I thought it not worth the effort, or certainly not worth risking the same sick feeling.

But now, having calmed down and realising that we might have a couple of jet-lagged kiwis boosting the squad, I am open to persuasion.

How about I meet you at the ground Headingleytyke and we share a pint together and hope for the best?

(Sm128)

 
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Re: Friday night lights - London Scottish
JDH (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 19:19
Jade or Davey at 10 v Coventry. Pete 12 Forsyth 13 Watkins and elder wings Brown 15.

Win and it's a massive boost to all.

 
Bobba
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Bobba (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 19:51
Quote:
almostatyke

How about I meet you at the ground Headingleytyke and we share a pint together and hope for the best?

(Sm128)

It seems that one of our moderators is now providing a dating service?(Sm113)



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Re: Friday night lights - London Scottish
almostatyke (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 20:06
Sorry Bobba, didn't realise you would be jealous.

(Sm93)

 
Bobba
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Bobba (IP Logged)
20/10/2018 21:52
Only because I never thought of it!

 
Hornchurch
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Hornchurch (IP Logged)
22/10/2018 22:47
We are planning on going to Coventry. All being well of course.

Still keeping the faith.

 
headingleytyke
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
23/10/2018 12:29
I am back from Turkey and live on 20 miles away from Coventry. Wasn't originally going to go but changed my mind and I will be there

 
wildwillie
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Wildwillie (IP Logged)
24/10/2018 05:08
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headingleytyke
I am back from Turkey and live on 20 miles away from Coventry. Wasn't originally going to go but changed my mind and I will be there

You'd travel 2000 miles just so that Almo can buy you a pint? Awesome!

(Sm128)

 
headingleytyke
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headingleytyke (IP Logged)
24/10/2018 13:26
Yes WW anything to get a free drink

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