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29 May, 2020 16:38
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almostatyke
29 May, 2020 18:02
Good summary of the confusing situation rugby finds itself at present C2.

(Sm134)

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leemingtyke
29 May, 2020 22:38
Nice bit of writing that Carnegiette.

The RFU have long said that they're committed to a fully professional Championship and we all knew it wasn't true. This year they've showed their true colours.

Ironically, the club least affected (apart from the ones with super-rich owners, obviously) is us because we're perfectly capable of destroying our own club without any outside interference from the RFU or anyone else.

Looks like the years of chronic mis-management paid off eh!.

leeds_shark
WPL
30 May, 2020 18:03
Interesting read C2!

I can see a 3 stage return to rugby, no idea on timescales but my thoughts are:-

1) Premiership returns to finish the season
2) England get some games to try and manage the RFU debts
3) the rest get to play

I think this would stop the problems of Saracens playing in 2 divisions at once. What's also noticeable is the lack of transfer activity as such, I would think if the clubs had an idea when games would be back on then people would be moving between 2 clubs. The only news seems to be players re-signing / being released.

I wonder what happens at the end of June when players contracts end if they are currently furloughed? Does this mean they won't have income coming in? Not a great place to be I'm sure!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 30/05/2020 18:03 by WPL.

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
01 June, 2020 19:38
Story in the Times yesterday saying funding possibly being cut to the Welsh regions too due to the WRUís drastic loss of income.

Tough times all round if true

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Beeston Lion
01 June, 2020 21:53
Re WPL's comments and query regarding contracts. In normal circumstance much of this work done prior to any rumours/notifications but as you indicate many players furloughed and to qualify for furlough you had to be employed in March. Therefore even if you managed to get a new contract you would not necessarily be getting paid until old season was completed whenever.

leeds_shark
WPL
02 June, 2020 10:20
thanks BL - so I guess no one is going to sign a new contract until there is an end of furlough in sight one way or another (hopefully with Rugby getting back underway!)

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almostatyke
02 June, 2020 12:58
Some progress, though presumably does not affect us:

[www.bbc.co.uk]

leeds_shark
WPL
02 June, 2020 13:31
It sounds like the start of fitness training.

I wonder how many championship clubs may call their players back? Given we don't know when the season may start, there seems little point in calling them back now and possibly stopping any furlough payments

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leemingtyke
02 June, 2020 16:04
As Almo says, it doesn't affect us but I'd imagine it's difficult to start a training plan without knowing when next season will begin.

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
02 June, 2020 16:50
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WPL
It sounds like the start of fitness training.
I wonder how many championship clubs may call their players back? Given we don't know when the season may start, there seems little point in calling them back now and possibly stopping any furlough payments

Exactly. If I were a cash strapped Championship club Iíd probably be quite happy to leave the government paying 80% of wages until the way forward was clearer.......

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almostatyke
05 June, 2020 08:58
Another step forward:
[www.bbc.co.uk]

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
05 June, 2020 13:05
Sarries tied up in the Premiership until some time in October........ implications for the Championship there then.

No idea what it means for the rest of us

Lots of ifs and buts still- not counting any chickens yet about seeing rugby

leeds exile
leeds exile
05 June, 2020 15:36
There seems to be increased talk of summer rugby going forward to align with the Southern Hemisphere. If that happens I will look elsewhere. My summer revolves around cricket, tennis and golf.

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almostatyke
06 June, 2020 10:21
The England Rugby roadmap for the return of rugby:


[www.englandrugby.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2020 10:25 by almostatyke.

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
08 June, 2020 19:10
Super Rugby starting again in New Zealand this weekend- no restrictions on crowd size either.......... theyíre a long way ahead of us

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almostatyke
08 June, 2020 19:22
[www.bbc.co.uk]

More news

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
09 June, 2020 09:04
Meanwhile the Prem clubs are looking at a Covid testing programme which will cost £20k per club per week (ouch!) to facilitate the August return......

I doubt thatís viable in the Premiership- it definitely wonít be at any lower levels thatís for sure

Carnegiette2
Carnegiette2
12 June, 2020 12:43
Things between Premiership Rugby and the players union (RPA) seem to be getting ugly.

The RPA have said players will take legal action if the 25% cut in players wages imposed at the start of Covid is made permanent.

The clubs have now said they will no longer engage with the RPA.....

Ho hum.....



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/06/2020 14:20 by Carnegiette2.

leeds_shark
WPL
12 June, 2020 14:15
I can't see this ending well for anyone including the supporters!!!

leeds exile
leeds exile
28 June, 2020 18:46
[www.youtube.com] This is well worth a watch.

Rawdon ranter
Rawdon ranter
28 June, 2020 21:37
Yes, worth a view BUT could have been severely pruned in the edit without losing a very worthwhile viewpoint. Too long at 35 minutes.

daveyjp
daveyjp
02 July, 2020 09:36
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Carnegiette2
Meanwhile the Prem clubs are looking at a Covid testing programme which will cost £20k per club per week (ouch!) to facilitate the August return......
I doubt thatís viable in the Premiership- it definitely wonít be at any lower levels thatís for sure

I wonder how much of that £20k is insurance premium?

Superleague rugby clubs are looking at about £5k per week. Maybe the two sports need to speak to each other!

Yorki
Yorki
02 July, 2020 18:06
The game of professional rugby union has overstretched itself financially and unfortunately it has taken a pandemic to bring it to earth.
The present financial crisis does not bode well for the premiership and it is disaster for the rest of the leagues.
Tiger's are in pickle and I thought a club that is so well supported would have some money in its back pocket for a rainy day but it seems not. I am not too sure where this leaves Leeds but I suspect we will be on the road again for home matches as it is the cheapest option, watching young lads playing amateur rugby. At end of the day if you ever want to see how money has wrecked a sport just look at Rugby Union in the last twenty years.


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