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Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Discussion started by Yorkie , 15 September, 2020 14:05
Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Yorkie 15 September, 2020 14:05
And assist in their preparations for upcoming games which they are banned from playing in?



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Duncan Keene 15 September, 2020 14:27
Yes or maybe more accurately unless specifically banned from doing so in their hearing yes.

I presume you have read the article saying Farrell has been doing Sexton impersonations in training! I read it and immediately looked up on the World Rugby site if it was allowed.

Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Yorkie 15 September, 2020 14:43
No I hadn't tbh. Was wondering when highlights prog was banging on about Euro games.



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
SK 88 15 September, 2020 15:06
Only drugs bans include squad training so far as I am aware.

Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
tjs10 16 September, 2020 07:47
I think that "normally" a player is only banned from participating in matches (and can still attend the venue on matchdays, or take part in training).

However, if a ban is from "all rugby activity" (eg a drugs ban) then they can't usually "participate in any capacity in any competition or other activity organised, convened or authorised by" the ruling body (eg RFU) or any of their member organisations or affiliates

Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Rich W 16 September, 2020 09:43
So not even commercial activities for the club - or more - community activity?



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Yorkie 16 September, 2020 11:30
Quote:
Rich W
So not even commercial activities for the club - or more - community activity?

From what Tim's saying, sounds like that is the case. In the olden days, this might have cost the player income opportunities but nowadays you'd think they'd want to "punish" the player by making them do loads of free community stuff. Spread the word that drugs don't work.



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Rich W 16 September, 2020 12:51
That's what I was thinking really.



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Yorkie 16 September, 2020 15:50
Another example of the ruling suits living in the dim and distant past?



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Rich W 16 September, 2020 16:31
(Sm160)



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
tjs10 17 September, 2020 04:46
Quote:
Yorkie
From what Tim's saying, sounds like that is the case. In the olden days, this might have cost the player income opportunities but nowadays you'd think they'd want to "punish" the player by making them do loads of free community stuff. Spread the word that drugs don't work.

The italics in my last post were actually cut and pasted from a previous drug ban judgement and, for brevity, i actually removed a bit along the lines of "except for drug education/awareness programmes".

So basically they would be banned from sporting & commercial rugby activities, but still allowed to be involved in educational pieces, as part of their rehab/penance/public flagellation.

Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Rich W 17 September, 2020 08:44
Ah. Much more sensible. Fair enough.



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Re: Can a banned player still train with the squad?
Yorkie 17 September, 2020 15:12
Thanks Tim for the clarification.



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