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Big Will Skelton
Discussion started by Sarriebone , 21 January, 2020 15:19
Big Will Skelton
Sarriebone 21 January, 2020 15:19
4 week ban for his red card offence on Sunday

Re: Big Will Skelton
dixipus 21 January, 2020 19:02
i watched this carefully on replay several times. Will was practically stationary, caught flat footed as oppo passed. Oppo then fastened his eye on Will and ran four or five strides straight at him. More a case of ref deceived in my view. Surprised at 4 weeks. Who argued the defence?

Re: Big Will Skelton
DoubleChampions 21 January, 2020 19:16
The game is changing fast and in our current predicament I would not object if Will moved on.



+1

Re: Big Will Skelton
Gray_Lensman 21 January, 2020 19:46
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dixipus
i watched this carefully on replay several times. Will was practically stationary, caught flat footed as oppo passed. Oppo then fastened his eye on Will and ran four or five strides straight at him. More a case of ref deceived in my view. Surprised at 4 weeks. Who argued the defence?

You watched a completely different incident from me then. I saw late, no arms and shoulder to the chin. Under current guidelines that's a red every time. Don't argue that its difficult for a big man to get out of the way in these types of challenges but for Skelton to get shoulder to chin it had to be him dipping not the other player.

Re: Big Will Skelton
Adey 21 January, 2020 19:51
He was always fixed on the player he hit even when the ball went. Would have been red, before the law changes this season.

Re: Big Will Skelton
BlackheathSarrie 21 January, 2020 20:14
Can have no complaints about that nor the card during the game.
I have actually been really impressed with his tackling recently as he was a bit loose when he first came. I appreciate he is a big guy and it can be difficult to hit and the right height but the one on the weekend was just dumb.

Re: Big Will Skelton
Sorry Sarrie 21 January, 2020 22:14
He could be useful in Dublin. As would Billy even more so. Hope he's not feeling too down with all the nonsense going on in addition to his arm break

Re: Big Will Skelton
hertsman 22 January, 2020 11:02
Wonder if he will go back to Oz and try and reclaim his gold shirt.

Re: Big Will Skelton
MaroonTyke2 22 January, 2020 11:27
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hertsman
Wonder if he will go back to Oz and try and reclaim his gold shirt.

RugbyPass say that Rugby Australia are keen on his return.

Re: Big Will Skelton
Sarriebone 22 January, 2020 12:03
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hertsman
Wonder if he will go back to Oz and try and reclaim his gold shirt.
Certainly a possibility and I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to go. Turning down an international chance when you're winning premiership/european trophies is one thing, but turning it down to play at Ampthill and Bedford is another.

Re: Big Will Skelton
Sorry Sarrie 22 January, 2020 12:55
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Sarriebone
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hertsman
Wonder if he will go back to Oz and try and reclaim his gold shirt.
Certainly a possibility and I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to go. Turning down an international chance when you're winning premiership/european trophies is one thing, but turning it down to play at Ampthill and Bedford is another.

Certifiable insanity I'd suggest. Do Ampthill have a 4G surface? (Sm22)

Re: Big Will Skelton
The Substandard Biscuit 22 January, 2020 15:58
Big Willie may disappear to Australia, particularly now Cheika has gone, but I also think he wasn't treated that well by some of the clubs over there.

However, his wife is embedded in the Sarries club, she's something to do with the women's team, and apparently they both gets the whole Saracens family thing completely and love it.

I hope he stays. He's great.

Re: Big Will Skelton
AlanE 22 January, 2020 16:19
Who will look forward to it least - Big Will facing Ampthill, or Ampthill facing Big Will?



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Re: Big Will Skelton
derbyshire fan 22 January, 2020 19:42
Kate Skelton has captained the women’s development side the last two outings

Re: Big Will Skelton
Adey 22 January, 2020 20:26
It would show a complete lack of ambition if he wanted to stick around just because his missus plays women’s rugby.

Re: Big Will Skelton
derbyshire fan 22 January, 2020 21:01
Adey - will you say that to Kate? Most couples take joint decisions on big choices like this - which weigh up the interests, cash flow AND long term plans of each partner.

Re: Big Will Skelton
ScrummageMachine 23 January, 2020 07:32
For me big Will really needs the Saracens family to put his arm around him.
He gave up the world cup to be us, with the investigation hanging over us.
He is not subject to the international appearances, buys into the culture and is a top level player.
Maybe he had a bad day, his frustration came out, but this is one player I feel for, gave up the world cup and his country to support us.

Re: Big Will Skelton
Adey 23 January, 2020 07:52
Yep. There’s a reason that women’s rugby is a second rate sport with no money in it. We keep getting told playing careers are short and you need to make the most of it while you can. She certainly won’t have earning power of her husband.

Re: Big Will Skelton
Banzaiwarrior 23 January, 2020 10:13
Adey ,I sponsored Will last year and met him and his wife many times. I have to say he is a family man through out and at the end of every game his first reaction would be to look into the crowd to find Kate.

Women's Rugby is a second rate sport ? Try telling that to the Cleall sisters. Maybe you should pop down and introduce yourself to the Saracens ladies team and tell them your thoughts !



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Re: Big Will Skelton
Adey 23 January, 2020 10:31
Women’s rugby is a box ticking exercise for the politically correct. Just because sport should be all inclusive doesn’t make it any good. It’s completely inferior to the men’s game. The skill levels really aren’t there, which is why you get more people watching a local Saturday team than a women’s premiership match, and why there’s no money in it.

Re: Big Will Skelton
daz_71 23 January, 2020 10:41
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Adey
Women’s rugby is a box ticking exercise for the politically correct. Just because sport should be all inclusive doesn’t make it any good. It’s completely inferior to the men’s game. The skill levels really aren’t there, which is why you get more people watching a local Saturday team than a women’s premiership match, and why there’s no money in it.

Adey is fully buying in to the #metoo campaign!

All women's sport is looked at as being inferior as it's always being directly compared to the mens versions of those sports. It shouldn't. Some of the Saracens/Quins Womens games have been every bit as exciting as the Saracen's mens games but maybe for different reasons. That does not make it inferior!

Re: Big Will Skelton
JL904 23 January, 2020 11:03
@ Daz

It's interesting to note that womens sport - in particular team sport - is considered inferior by many when it's competing with an established mens equivalent, especially football, cricket and rugby. A notable exception is cycling ... before it was targeted by Sport UK and the Lottery for funding, the sport was fairly niche. The public funding was given to both men and women. As a result, womens cycling is regarded as on a par with the men, as they were never playing "catch-up.

Even more dramatic is the rise of the round ball game in the US. They were never a force in mens football, so the women started in an equally poor position. Whilst baseball, gridiron and hockey have attracted the best young men, football has had the pick of the girls.

Hence the US women have been finalists in all 8 Womens WCs since the first in 1991, and won four of them, the mens team is nowhere near the same standard.

Re: Big Will Skelton
GHA 23 January, 2020 11:19
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JL904
Hence the US women have been finalists in all 8 Womens WCs since the first in 1991, and won four of them, the mens team is nowhere near the same standard.

The US mens team haven't won any world cups but I'd be careful suggesting they aren't the same 'standard' as the women winking smiley

Re: Big Will Skelton
derbyshire fan 23 January, 2020 14:09
Very depressed by Adey’s attitude. I had hoped the dinosaurs were going extinct.

Re: Big Will Skelton
TonyTaff 23 January, 2020 15:50
The Saracens women's scrum-halves don't incessantly boxkick. Alternative uses of possession can be a breath of fresh air!



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Re: Big Will Skelton
Adey 23 January, 2020 15:53
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derbyshire fan
Very depressed by Adey’s attitude. I had hoped the dinosaurs were going extinct.

Ahh Princess, did I hurt your feelings with my opinion?

Re: Big Will Skelton
JO'G 23 January, 2020 16:08
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Gray_Lensman
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dixipus
i watched this carefully on replay several times. Will was practically stationary, caught flat footed as oppo passed. Oppo then fastened his eye on Will and ran four or five strides straight at him. More a case of ref deceived in my view. Surprised at 4 weeks. Who argued the defence?

You watched a completely different incident from me then. I saw late, no arms and shoulder to the chin. Under current guidelines that's a red every time. Don't argue that its difficult for a big man to get out of the way in these types of challenges but for Skelton to get shoulder to chin it had to be him dipping not the other player.

different view from me too

all I saw was crossing; penalty to Saracens

oh and unfortunately one of those 'I'll get the bloke sent off' actions that seem to be creeping into the game



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 23/01/2020 16:09 by JO'G .

Re: Big Will Skelton
MGB 23 January, 2020 17:31
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derbyshire fan
Very depressed by Adey’s attitude. I had hoped the dinosaurs were going extinct.

+1 from another Princess apparently.

Re: Big Will Skelton
tpr's headmistress 23 January, 2020 17:36
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MGB
Quote:
derbyshire fan
Very depressed by Adey’s attitude. I had hoped the dinosaurs were going extinct.

+1 from another Princess apparently.

Don't kiss the frog boys - it might become an empathetic human being.

Re: Big Will Skelton
Banzai1314 23 January, 2020 19:07
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Adey
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derbyshire fan
Very depressed by Adey’s attitude. I had hoped the dinosaurs were going extinct.

Ahh Princess, did I hurt your feelings with my opinion?

Is this the same Rich Adey (Mindfullness Advocate )?

Re: Big Will Skelton
AP 23 January, 2020 20:20
Hi, Adey, has MBS hijacked your account?



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