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2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Discussion started by Barty II , 24 February, 2020 15:23
2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 24 February, 2020 15:23
If you have any info to update and a link to a verified source please let me know.

Rumours, Probables & Paper Talk
Joe Gray - All but gone. On loan to Quins and Saracens contract is expiring
Titi Lamositele - French press reporting Montpellier
Will Skelton - French press reporting a 2 year deal with La Rochelle
George Kruis - Public statement of intent for a move to Japan at some point
Nick Isiekwe - Sale targeting a permanent deal however Isiekwe would prefer to go on loan and is in talks for a new Saracens contract. Gloucester a possible destination (Ruck) but TRP suggest it may be Saints becoming the Pariahs helping out the enemy
Vincent Koch - Has discussed moves to Sale and Scarlets but may have opted to stay at Saracens to 2022 (Ruck)
Richard Wigglesworth - Chased by Sale, potentially a coaching role
Ben Spencer - Several outlets reporting a likely permanent move to Bath with Ospreys' Aled Davies as replacement
Joel Kpoku - Had signed for Northampton, many reports he has backed out of the deal
Rhys Carre - Likely move back to Wales
Nick Tompkins - All Welsh regions interested as well as London Irish. Encouragingly for us Ruck are reporting Tompkins wants to stay at Saracens so his preferred option is a 1 year loan to maintain his international status
Alex Lozowski - Neil Fissler's TRP scattergun has him on a one year loan to Toulouse
Mike Rhodes, Calum Clark, Juan Figallo, Sean Maitland, Duncan Taylor - RugbyPass report all are on the list to offload.
Owen Farrell, Elliot Daly, Jamie George, Jackson Wray, Alex Goode, Maro Itoje, Billy Vunipola, Richard Barrington - Various comments along the lines of "I'm Staying"

Players Out - Permanent
LK - Callum Hunter-Hill - Edinburgh (end of loan)
WG/FB - Liam Williams - Scarlets
FB - Matt Gallagher - Munster

Players Out - Loan
HK - Jack Singleton (2 Yr) - Gloucester
FL - Ben Earl (3 Yr) - Bristol
FH - Max Malins (3 Yr) - Bristol

Players In
TBC


Academy Inclusions and Promotions
SH - Sam Bryan - U18
C - Brandon Jackson - U18



2019-20 Squad
Loosehead Prop
Mako Vunipola (2 Yr)
Richard Barrington (Contract Unknown)
Rhys Carre (Contract Unknown - signed 2019)
Ralph Adams-Hale (1 Yr)[/i]
Sam Crean (Expiring 2020)

Hooker
Jamie George (1 Yr)
Tom Woolstencroft (Contract Unknown - signed 2018)
Joe Gray Expiring 2020
Kapeli Pifeleti (Contract Unknown - re-signed 2019)
Theodore Dan (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)

Tighthead Prop
Juan Figallo (1 Yr)
Vincent Koch (2 Yr)
Titi Lamositele (Contract Unknown)
Josh Ibuanokpe (Contract Unknown - signed 2019)
Sam Wainwright (Contract Unknown - signed 2019)
Harvey Beaton (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)
Mink Scharink (Contract Unknown - signed 2019)

Lock
Maro Itoje (2 Yr)
George Kruis (1 Yr)
Will Skelton (1 Yr)
Nick Isiekwe (Expiring 2020)
Joel Kpoku (Contract Unknown - renewed 2018)
John Kpoku (1 Yr)
Cameron Boon (Contract Unknown - renewed 2018)

Flanker
Mike Rhodes (Expiring 2020)
Calum Clark (Expiring 2020)
Sean Reffell (Contract Unknown)
Andy Christie (Expiring 2020)
Tobias Munday (Expiring 2020)
Ethan Benson (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)

Number Eight
Billy Vunipola (2 Yr)
Jackson Wray (Contract Unknown)
Ollie Stonham (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)

Scrum Half
Ben Spencer (Expiring 2020)
Richard Wigglesworth (Expiring 2020)
Alex Day (Contract Unknown - signed 2019)
Tom Whiteley (Contract Unknown - renewed 2017)
Sam Bryan (Contract Unknown)

Fly Half
Owen Farrell (2 Yr)
Manu Vunipola (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)

Centre
Brad Barritt (Expiring 2020)
Alex Lozowski (Expiring 2020)
Nick Tompkins (2 Yr)
Duncan Taylor (1 Yr)
Viliami Hakalo (Expiring 2020)
Dominic Morris (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)[/i]
Charlie Watson (Expiring 2020)
Josh Hallett (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)
Brandon Jackson (Contract Unknown)

Wing
Sean Maitland (Expiring 2020)
Alex Lewington (Contract Unknown - signed 2018)
Rotimi Segun (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)
Ali Crossdale (Contract Unknown - renewed 2019)
Elliot Obatoyinbo (Contract Unknown)

Full Back
Alex Goode (2 Yr)
Elliot Daly (2 Yr)



Edited 11 time(s). Last edit at 29/03/2020 17:21 by Barty II.

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
BlackheathSarrie 24 February, 2020 15:54
Good idea Barty.
TRP suggested at the weekend that both Earl and Malins to Bristol on loan are done but pressumably you want club conformation which we don't have. Didn't someone official say that there would be an announcement relatively shortly re where we were with next season?

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Darraghgirl 24 February, 2020 17:25
duly stuck

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 25 February, 2020 07:44
Thanks DG, will do my best to update as soon as things happen.

Yeah Blackheath generally I wait for an announcement from either club, or sometimes somewhere like the BBC that generally don't deal in strong rumours. TRP are often a bit scattergun in their approach, they'll say 20 things and 10 of them will be right. Would agree that Earl & Malins loans are highly likely to be pretty much a done deal. Generally the rumours are based on fact, they may be at an advanced stage of negotiation.

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Brighty_Fez 25 February, 2020 12:44
do we need another section on here to say players publicly announced commitment???

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 25 February, 2020 12:55
Quote:
Brighty_Fez
do we need another section on here to say players publicly announced commitment???

Too subjective

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Crazy Golfer 25 February, 2020 16:44
Isn't Liam Williams going to Scarlets rather than the Ospreys?

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 25 February, 2020 17:23
Quote:
Crazy Golfer
Isn't Liam Williams going to Scarlets rather than the Ospreys?

Oops. Written in a rush. Corrected!

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Sorry Sarrie 27 February, 2020 05:43
This from Rugby Pass

[www.rugbypass.com]



My wife and I are on the verge of splitting up because of my obsession with rugby.
I've decided to give it one last try......

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 27 February, 2020 07:44
Quote:
Sorry Sarrie
This from Rugby Pass
[www.rugbypass.com]

Interesting they've now got Lewington and Crossdale as staying when their last report they were likely leavers. Sadly it's a story that will continue to be big earners for news for a while so I'll only be updating when things are confirmed by a club.

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
MaroonTyke2 29 February, 2020 10:05
Joe Gray has already rejoined Quins. [www.quins.co.uk]

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 01 March, 2020 10:56
Quote:
MaroonTyke2
Joe Gray has already rejoined Quins. [www.quins.co.uk]

On loan yes. Although it is 99.9% that his contract with us won't be renewed

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 02 March, 2020 11:45
I've updated the list at the top with stories in various stages of reporting, from "its a done deal" to "they're looking at..."

In no particular order.

Haven't included statements of "I'm staying", for now this is just about who might go

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
AlanE 02 March, 2020 16:15
Re this one:

Ben Spencer - RugbyPass reporting a permanent move to Bath however Mark McCall stating he is "a big part of our future"

Is that correct? In the context of the comment after the Saints match mentioning Ben and Nick, I had assumed he meant Ben Earl? But I didn't hear it so that is just based on what I read.



I was 17 miles from Graybridge before I was caught by the school leopard

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
jonnybrowne 02 March, 2020 16:58
I see Chris Ashton has left Sale Sharks with immediate effect. Dont suppose hed fancy coming back to help out next season...?

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Sarriebone 06 March, 2020 16:02
Confirmed Ben Earl on loan to Bristol for next season but... extends with us until 2023!
[www.saracens.com]

Fantastic news



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/03/2020 16:10 by Sarriebone.

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Sarriebone 06 March, 2020 16:12
And the same for Max Malins, Bristol next year but re-signs with us until 2023

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Darraghgirl 06 March, 2020 17:55
fabulous news about Ben & Max
The future is definitely looking brighter

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 09 March, 2020 15:17
Updated with the Earl/Malins news, and some of the latest from the most recent "Saracens Transfer Rumour Generator"

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Sarriebone 11 March, 2020 11:55
Singleton to join Gloucester on loan

[www.saracens.com]

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 11 March, 2020 12:05
Quote:
Sarriebone
Singleton to join Gloucester on loan
[www.saracens.com]

Done. Ta smiling smiley

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
BlackheathSarrie 15 March, 2020 12:56
Not confirmed but TRP suggesting Isiekwe to Saints on loan. Personally feeling very encouraged by the number of future "stars" going on loan deals.

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 15 March, 2020 16:49
Quote:
BlackheathSarrie
Not confirmed but TRP suggesting Isiekwe to Saints on loan. Personally feeling very encouraged by the number of future "stars" going on loan deals.

Quite entertaining after a number of their board have denounced Bristol and Gloucester as pariahs....
(Sm100)

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Sarriebone 15 March, 2020 18:26
Jackson Wray definitely staying [www.cityam.com]

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
BlackheathSarrie 15 March, 2020 22:02
Quote:
Barty II
Quote:
BlackheathSarrie
Not confirmed but TRP suggesting Isiekwe to Saints on loan. Personally feeling very encouraged by the number of future "stars" going on loan deals.

Quite entertaining after a number of their board have denounced Bristol and Gloucester as pariahs....
(Sm100)

Delicious isn't it (Sm100)

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Sarriebone 25 March, 2020 10:30
Big Billy is staying [www.rugbypass.com]

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Sarriebone 29 March, 2020 16:40
Baz confirmed as staying from the man himself on a Q&A on the official Sarries Twitter [twitter.com]

Re: 2020/21 Saracens Men's Squad
Barty II 29 March, 2020 17:20
Cheers!


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