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Coronavirus
Discussion started by GazzaFez , 29 February, 2020 14:18
Coronavirus
GazzaFez 29 February, 2020 14:18
Well the inevitable has happened. France has just announced a ban on all public events where there are 5000 or more participants. This will affect all sporting, cultural and business events. Doesn't seem that there is any indication of an end date, which is not surprising in the circumstances. I've had my accommodation sorted for Marseille since last year although it's free to me so not too worried about that.

Question is, what will be next? Away trip to Leinster?

Re: Coronavirus
Darraghgirl 29 February, 2020 18:16
5000 seems a very strange number
that's still 4999 other people who can infect you!!!!!

Re: Coronavirus
Innings 29 February, 2020 19:17
Don't be surprised if other governments, including the UK's, take that path. However, the limit will end up a lot lower than 5,000.

UK heath experts are suggesting that once a untreatable virulent virus gets into any general population, 25% of that population is the low-end probability of infection. In the UK, call that 16million people.
15% of those infected need hospital treatment. Call that 2.4 million people.
One-third of hospital cases need intensive care. Call that 800,000 people.
It seems that one-third of intensive care cases die. Call that 250,000 people.

The actual death toll is scarcely more than three times that of annual seasonal 'flu, but the NHS simply cannot handle the numbers needing hospital treatment, let alone intensive care. So, drastic measures to reduce cross infection rates will be literally vital, and the most effect measure will be to prevent large-scale gatherings. Add in that the NHS employs over 1.2 million people in the UK, and would suffer the same attrition rate. We begin to see that the chances of getting adequate health care if you get the infection are reduced to a very small probability.

If the prospected high-end probability numbers came about, roughly twice to three times the low-end number, the chance of anyone actually wanting to be anywhere with anyone else would be vanishingly small. On this basis, the Chinese can get away with ordering everyone to stay indoors, and quarantine entire provinces, but Europe is simply not thinking like that, yet.

Far-fetched? In the 1920s, early estimate were that world-wide deaths from Spanish 'flu were about 20 million. More recent estimates suggest that the actual number was over 50 million, with 675,000 deaths in the USA alone. These estimates are that the infection hit 500 million people, of whom 10% died. And don't pin your hopes on anti-biotics, they don't have any effect on viral infections.



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Re: Coronavirus
ComeOnSarries 29 February, 2020 19:24
At the moment the ban is only on indoor events with more than 5000 so footie and rugby can still go ahead. But letís watch this space as matters will get worse before they get better.

Re: Coronavirus
ukms 29 February, 2020 19:56
Quote:
Innings

UK heath experts are suggesting that once a untreatable virulent virus gets into any general population, 25% of that population is the low-end probability of infection. In the UK, call that 16million people.
15% of those infected need hospital treatment. Call that 2.4 million people.
One-third of hospital cases need intensive care. Call that 800,000 people.
It seems that one-third of intensive care cases die. Call that 250,000 .

Cheerful soul ...... where did you pick up such stats ?

Re: Coronavirus
Stumpy7780 29 February, 2020 23:39
Quote:
ComeOnSarries
At the moment the ban is only on indoor events with more than 5000 so footie and rugby can still go ahead. But letís watch this space as matters will get worse before they get better.
Racing wonít be able to play at home then

Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 01 March, 2020 00:05
Actually the ban is on gatherings of 5000 or more in 'confined spaces'. The ban is not specifically indoors. For example the Paris half marathon has already been stopped and this is clearly outdoors and not even in a stadium. I agree that this appears to be very vague but I would venture to suggest that your chances of catching a virus in a stadium and at an indoor event are very similar. I doubt the presence of a roof would make much if any difference!

Just seen that MIPIM has also been called off in Cannes.

Re: Coronavirus
Innings 01 March, 2020 00:22
This week's Economist has several articles on different aspects of the coronavirus and its associated disease Covid-19. They draw on a variety of academic sources, notably studies of the way in which SARS Cov-2 spread and eventually ended of its own accord, quickly or slowly in different countries, depending on how draconian were different governments' measure to contain it.



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Re: Coronavirus
Convex Hull 01 March, 2020 05:13
I am inclined to use the data generated by my alma mater, Imperial College. The MRC Centre for Global Infectious Diseases is used as a reference point by NGOs around the world.

Their recent conclusions are summarised as:

Case Fatality Ratios* (CFR) in all infections (asymptomatic or symptomatic) of approximately 1% (95% confidence interval 0.5%-4%).

*CFRs seen in individual countries will vary depending on the sensitivity of different surveillance systems to detect cases of differing levels of severity and the clinical care offered to severely ill cases.

Our analyses indicate evidence of substantial heterogeneity in the
number of secondary infections caused by each case, as indicated by a high level of over-dispersion in
the reproduction number.


So, that would suggest mortality rates have been 1% so far, referenced to the healthcare system in that region of China, but are likely to fall as the virus weakens.

As an aside, deaths due respiratory problems caused by influenza are twenty six times more likely to occur in people aged over 65.

Their work would suggest to me that the impact is likely to be roughly similar to that of seasonal 'flu'.



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Re: Coronavirus
boomer! 01 March, 2020 10:49
Quote:
Convex Hull
I e sensitivity of different surveillance systems to detect cases of differing levels of severity and the clinical care offered to severely ill cases.
am inclined to use the data generated by my alma mater, Imperial College. The MRC Centre for Global Infectious Diseases is used as a reference point by NGOs around the world.

Their recent conclusions are summarised as:

Case Fatality Ratios* (CFR) in all infections (asymptomatic or symptomatic) of approximately 1% (95% confidence interval 0.5%-4%).

*CFRs seen in individual countries will vary depending on th
Our analyses indicate evidence of substantial heterogeneity in the
number of secondary infections caused by each case, as indicated by a high level of over-dispersion in
the reproduction number.


So, that would suggest mortality rates have been 1% so far, referenced to the healthcare system in that region of China, but are likely to fall as the virus weakens.

As an aside, deaths due respiratory problems caused by influenza are twenty six times more likely to occur in people aged over 65.

Their work would suggest to me that the impact is likely to be roughly similar to that of seasonal 'flu'.


If I got a form of "seasonal flu" my doctor would tell me to stay at home, don't come to the surgery, and let it run its course.

Can we do that with Coronavirus/Covid-19, or do we need medical help ?



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Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 01 March, 2020 11:02
Matt Hancock has this morning stated that the government hasn't ruled out introducing similar restrictions on mass gatherings in the UK. Seems so obvious it's hardly worth saying! However, I think we're a long way off that situation yet.

Re: Coronavirus
Convex Hull 01 March, 2020 13:01
Quote:
boomer!
Quote:
Convex Hull
I e sensitivity of different surveillance systems to detect cases of differing levels of severity and the clinical care offered to severely ill cases.
am inclined to use the data generated by my alma mater, Imperial College. The MRC Centre for Global Infectious Diseases is used as a reference point by NGOs around the world.

Their recent conclusions are summarised as:

Case Fatality Ratios* (CFR) in all infections (asymptomatic or symptomatic) of approximately 1% (95% confidence interval 0.5%-4%).

*CFRs seen in individual countries will vary depending on th
Our analyses indicate evidence of substantial heterogeneity in the
number of secondary infections caused by each case, as indicated by a high level of over-dispersion in
the reproduction number.


So, that would suggest mortality rates have been 1% so far, referenced to the healthcare system in that region of China, but are likely to fall as the virus weakens.

As an aside, deaths due respiratory problems caused by influenza are twenty six times more likely to occur in people aged over 65.

Their work would suggest to me that the impact is likely to be roughly similar to that of seasonal 'flu'.


If I got a form of "seasonal flu" my doctor would tell me to stay at home, don't come to the surgery, and let it run its course.

Can we do that with Coronavirus/Covid-19, or do we need medical help ?

I think most people will have mild symptoms, but some poor souls will be seriously ill.



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Re: Coronavirus
AP 01 March, 2020 18:01
It seems that some people will not even realise they have it - but will be infectious. That is a significant distinction from SARS, MERS and others which may have had a higher death rate but were passed on only by those with symptoms, and so could be countered more readily by health authorities. Covid 19 is likely to infect many more people therefore and, if so, that means (i) more people will die directly or indirectly from catching it, even if its mortality rate is at seasonal flu levels rather than Spanish flu, (ii) because of the strain that will put on the health services, deaths from other causes will be greater (no ambulance to get to you if you have a hart attack, no bed if you get to hospital) and (iii) the hit to the economy will be a really major financial crash. Because Covid 19 seems to affect worse those with other health issues, (i) and (ii) would be largely bringing forward deaths that would have happened in (say) the next three to five years), so unfortunate but not wiping out much of a generation like the Spanish flu (or the Black Death). Item (iii) is not welcome as the world economy is not strong anyway.

That's what I've distilled from the reports I've read; I have no specialist knowledge.



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Re: Coronavirus
Sorry Sarrie 02 March, 2020 18:30
Quote:
AP

That's what I've distilled from the reports I've read; I have no specialist knowledge.

If they call off the Leinster game I'll be distilling something and it won't be bloody information!

Re: Coronavirus
AP 03 March, 2020 09:06
Quote:
Sorry Sarrie
Quote:
AP

That's what I've distilled from the reports I've read; I have no specialist knowledge.

If they call off the Leinster game I'll be distilling something and it won't be bloody information!

They'll play it behind closed doors with a crowd of 4,999 Leinster supporters who just happened to be there.



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Re: Coronavirus
JohnMB 03 March, 2020 13:31
There is speculation in the Irish sports pages this morning that if it goes ahead the Leinster-Saracens Quarter Final might be played in an empty stadium. It depends on the progress of the virus on the island of Ireland. Thus far, there is one confirmed case in Northern Ireland and one in the Republic. However, it is almost certain that there are other persons who are infected and do not yet know it among the general population. It is highly likely that a lot of St. Patrick's Day events are going to cancelled even before we know about other cases.

Re: Coronavirus
maynas 03 March, 2020 17:40
Looks to me like apart from the play offs Crowning Exeter the Prem is over, 6 nations looks unlikely to finish and now Europe. Rugby season pretty much dead in early March. Well all soon be isolated at home with nothing to watch on TV except reruns ....

Re: Coronavirus
TonyTaff 04 March, 2020 12:32
[theconversation.com]

This struck me as authorative. The author is an epidemiologist at Indiana University-Purdue University, Indianapolis.



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Re: Coronavirus
TonyTaff 04 March, 2020 12:49
The RFU have issued new guidance:

Hand-washing should not be a perfunctory activity. It should take at least as long as a scrum half takes to use the ball after the ref had told him to do so. Self Isolation should last at least as long as a scrum reset. (Sm22)



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Re: Coronavirus
Sarriebone 04 March, 2020 12:54
Quote:
TonyTaff
The RFU have issued new guidance:
Hand-washing should not be a perfunctory activity. It should take at least as long as a scrum half takes to use the ball after the ref had told him to do so. Self Isolation should last at least as long as a scrum reset. (Sm22)

Surely that's overkill, half that would be fine...(Sm22)

Re: Coronavirus
Innings 04 March, 2020 18:40
Quote:
[theconversation.com

This struck me as authorative. The author is an epidemiologist at Indiana University-Purdue University, Indianapolis.]

TT. Unfortunately, as I read it, Tom Duszynski, Director Epidemiology Education, IUPUI may be great on epidemics, but he's not good at mathematics. The generally agreed death toll from Spanish 'flu was 50 million. The generally accepted total world population in 1920 was not more than 1.8 billion. Therefore, for Duszynski's posited 2.5% mortality rate for victims of the 'flu to be correct, every single person in the world, plus 200 million living elsewhere, location unspecified, must have caught Spanish 'flu. More probable estimates are that 25% of the world population caught the disease, say 450 million people, of whom slightly over 10% died, giving the accepted total death toll, 50 million.



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Re: Coronavirus
TonyTaff 06 March, 2020 15:58
Quote:
Innings
Quote:
[theconversation.com

This struck me as authorative. The author is an epidemiologist at Indiana University-Purdue University, Indianapolis.]

TT. Unfortunately, as I read it, Tom Duszynski, Director Epidemiology Education, IUPUI may be great on epidemics, but he's not good at mathematics. The generally agreed death toll from Spanish 'flu was 50 million. The generally accepted total world population in 1920 was not more than 1.8 billion. Therefore, for Duszynski's posited 2.5% mortality rate for victims of the 'flu to be correct, every single person in the world, plus 200 million living elsewhere, location unspecified, must have caught Spanish 'flu. More probable estimates are that 25% of the world population caught the disease, say 450 million people, of whom slightly over 10% died, giving the accepted total death toll, 50 million.

Fair point.

The fatality rate in Italy seems to be 3.6% (107/3000) but, while the number of deaths is easy to count, the number of infected persons is little more than guesswork.



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Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 06 March, 2020 18:18
Events seem to be cancelled on a daily basis now and the rate of cancellation is increasing. My two grown up children have both told me of industry events cancelled today alone. Now that the England/Italy game is off I can only see this escalating further now. Sad to say, but I would guess the ECC final in Marseille will be off, or at the very least played behind closed doors and I wouldn't put any money on our Leinster game going ahead either. As for the Prem final - who knows; unlikely I would say.

Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 09 March, 2020 13:46
France v Ireland 6N match is the latest casualty.

My comment above about ECC final in Marseille is now looking like there was still a small chance it would still be on. Now almost zero chance I would think.

Re: Coronavirus
Innings 09 March, 2020 13:54
Some governments are taking this seriously, others are talking seriously but not acting on their own talk. Allowing 17 aircraft into the UK yesterday, from an airport in the middle of a quarantined Italian province, and taking no precautions with whom was on the planes, other than recommending self-isolation when they reach their final destination, says all you need to know about how the British are treating the outbreak. Practically every UK case so far has come from Italy, yet nobody in Whitehall can join the dots on this particular very simply picture.



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Re: Coronavirus
JohnMB 11 March, 2020 11:55
8 days ago there were 2 confirmed cases on the island of Ireland. There are now 50 cases. St. Patrick's Day festivities have been cancelled. Virus modelling suggests that 1.9million Irish people could contract the virus between now and year's end. I'd be amazed if the RCC Qtr Final goes ahead, that at the very least, it is not held in an empty Lansdowne Road. I would not be surprised if it is cancelled. Public health trumps all.

Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 12 March, 2020 00:00
Our next home fixture at AzP is Glaws on 11th April, over four weeks from now. Without being too melodramatic I fear that the Tigers game may well have been the last at AzP for this season. All roads lead to this destination IMHO.

Cobra meeting tomorrow will give a clearer steer on this.

Re: Coronavirus
lechef 12 March, 2020 10:45
EPCR statement Ė Quarter-final matches
Monday 9th March 2020
4:30 pm (GMT)

It is currently envisaged that the Heineken Champions Cup and European Rugby Challenge Cup quarter-final matches will go ahead as scheduled on the weekend of 3/4/5 April.

EPCR intends to complete all eight fixtures and will continue to monitor developments while liaising with the relevant league and union bodies, as well as governments and local authorities.

EPCR is fully supportive of any preventative measures that might be required in the interests of overall public health in relation to Covid-19 and will respect instructions provided by authorities.

Re: Coronavirus
Innings 12 March, 2020 11:05
Quote:
JohnMB
Public health trumps all.

In reality, Trump trumps public health in denial stakes.



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Re: Coronavirus
HONDA 12 March, 2020 11:40
Republic of Ireland closes all schools

Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 12 March, 2020 12:22
Quote:
HONDA
Republic of Ireland closes all schools

And a ban on all outdoor events of 500 or more people. The ban extends until 29th March so theoretically doesn't include the Qtr final. However, as mentioned before the writing is truly on the wall now; this ban is bound to be extended.

Re: Coronavirus
#wolfpack 12 March, 2020 12:49
Quote:
GazzaFez
Our next home fixture at AzP is Glaws on 11th April, over four weeks from now. Without being too melodramatic I fear that the Tigers game may well have been the last at AzP for this season. All roads lead to this destination IMHO

If the season is cancelled do we remain premiership champions and relegation is avoided...? Obviously not I know, but imagine Tony Rowe's face.

Re: Coronavirus
Stumpy7780 12 March, 2020 13:05
I highly doubt that the game at Tottenham will go ahead either

Re: Coronavirus
Innings 12 March, 2020 13:09
Quote:
imagine Tony Rowe's face.

Thankyou, but no Thanks, there's enough to worry about already without forcing that thought onto innocent people.



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Re: Coronavirus
JohnMB 12 March, 2020 16:11
Quote:
GazzaFez
Quote:
HONDA
Republic of Ireland closes all schools

And a ban on all outdoor events of 500 or more people. The ban extends until 29th March so theoretically doesn't include the Qtr final. However, as mentioned before the writing is truly on the wall now; this ban is bound to be extended.

As of yesterday there were 43 cases in the Republic of Ireland and 18 in Northern Ireland. However, it appears that the measures announced this morning may be as a result of figures received yesterday by our Health Service Executive showing a surge in community transmissions in the Republic. These figures are due to be released this evening. I would expect that the RCC Quarter Final and Pro14 matches will probably be cancelled as a result.

Re: Coronavirus
TOKS 12 March, 2020 17:02
Have they released figures on how many people currently have flu for balance?

Re: Coronavirus
Surbiton Sarries 12 March, 2020 17:21
Pro 14 off until further notice

Re: Coronavirus
TonyTaff 12 March, 2020 17:31
Quote:
TOKS
Have they released figures on how many people currently have flu for balance?

Not a lot of balance to be had in comparing the two.

On the one hand there is extensive herd immunity in respect of influenza but none in respect of SARS Cov 2, then again there will be an unknowable amount of under-reporting of mild cases of each disease.



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Re: Coronavirus
dixipus 12 March, 2020 17:56
Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said: "From 6pm today, the following measures are being put in place and they will stay in place until March 29: schools, colleges and childcare facilities will close from tomorrow, where possible teaching will be done online or remotely."

He added: "Our advice is that all indoor mass gatherings of more than 100 people and outdoor mass gatherings of more than 5,000 people should be cancelled. You need to continue to go to work if you can, but where possible you should work from home."

That only has to be extended by a week.....

Re: Coronavirus
Convex Hull 12 March, 2020 19:09
I was in Glasgow at an academic event yesterday. The Chairman, who is a professor at Glasgow University, has a number of friends who are eminent virologists.

He reported that they believed the virus was already widespread in the UK population and that the severity of the situation had been wildly exaggerated.



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Re: Coronavirus
maynas 12 March, 2020 19:20
Look whatís happening in other sports. F1 events cancelled, tennis cancelled, soccer now going behind closed doors, basketball totally ended. Canít see us having any more home games for some time if at all. Players will start to get it and that will kill it like the ones at Leicester football. If everyone misses 4 or 5 games makes little sense to carry on with the league if we are allowed to play say by May. Sad end to a sad season.

Re: Coronavirus
Sorry Sarrie 12 March, 2020 20:15
Quote:
Convex Hull

He reported that they believed the virus was already widespread in the UK population and that the severity of the situation had been wildly exaggerated.

If you want to hear the other side, and you might not, read this - btw I have no idea who he is so could be BS

YOU WILL DIE!

Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 12 March, 2020 23:22
In the USA I see that NFL, NBA and MLS have all been called off now!

Re: Coronavirus
Innings 12 March, 2020 23:47
Alternatively, you could just accept that the National Chief Medical Officer and Government Chief Scientist presented a very coherent and plausible case for not going overboard too soon, preparing for the situation to accelerate into something much worse. They are planning for the worst case over many months, rather than a Panglossian view that this is just a minor problem that is being given hysterical importance. Planning for 80% take-up of the disease and 1% mortality makes sense in the light of what's happening elsewhere, even if the actual outturn will turn out to be significantly less. Their explanations of why they are not shutting up shop makes perfect sense to me, and it'll be interesting to see whether closing down the entire country, as Italy has done, will not turn our to be a tragic error, when the overall impact, - medical, societal and economic - will be totted up after it's all over.



Innings

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Re: Coronavirus
JL904 13 March, 2020 02:26
I think you're right Innings.

There's a graph in the link which shows the boffins reasoning - if they're correct, they hope the NHS can cope until it's eased off rather than being swamped.

[url=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8104003/Shocking-graphs-reveal-coronavirus-crisis-escalating-outside-China.html][/url]

Re: Coronavirus
Convex Hull 13 March, 2020 06:31
One of our board members is chairman of an NGO that has delivered the most aid in Asia for the Corona virus. He is an American of Philippines/Chinese parents.

He has been working closely with the authorities in China and he made the point that, for any Chinese person over the age of forty, self isolation is no real issue. Until the late 1990s they lived in a society where personal freedom and rights to travel were severely curtailed. The self isolation restrictions imposed in China are not unusual or in any way alarming to the average Chinese person. In addition, the authorities in China have organised a system, accessible by mobile phone, whereby high quality prepared meals are delivered to the doorstep of anyone that requests them. That service mitigates the need to travel outside the home for food.

Several weeks ago he told me that, in his opinion, such measures were very unlikely to work in Europe or USA as there would be mass disobedience fuelled by fear of the unknown. I think the situation in Italy is evidence that he is right.

The reports that are issued by Imperial College, which is internationally recognised as a centre of excellence in epidemiology, continually references two factors; firstly it is extremely difficult to accurately estimate the number of actual cases, which will determine the course of epidemic and the true fatality rate. Secondly, the medical outcome will vary widely depending on the quality of healthcare available to patients with serious symptoms.

I am surrounded by medics and medical scientists in my circle of friends and family. All of them are baffled by the way this epidemic is being reported and, in their opinion, exaggerated. My wife, who is definitely not a conspiracy theory advocate and spent many year in postdoctoral research in biochemistry, cannot correlate the actions taken with the threat posed and wonders if there is some other motivating factor.

She is in the 'at risk' category and has been receiving text message from her friends who are in a state of alarm. With typical black humour, she tells them that she spent the evening trying to find an iron lung on ebay.



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Re: Coronavirus
Innings 13 March, 2020 11:00
There are two approaches. One is based on the principle "Something must be done: this is something, therefore it must be done." The other is based on the principle "Don't just do something, stand there."

The 6P principle applies here as in all the military processes for which it was originally enunciated: Proper Preparation Prevents Pis-Poor Performance. I'd rather preparation that was not eventually needed than poor preparation that led to breakdown later.



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Re: Coronavirus
GazzaFez 13 March, 2020 11:13
Meanwhile.........

In the last few minutes
1. Uefa has called off all matches including Champions League.
2. All UK Premiere League matches have been suspended.
3. England cricket tour in Sri Lanka cancelled.



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Re: Coronavirus
Stumpy7780 13 March, 2020 11:17
If for some reason our games go ahead, how many people will actually turn up and watch?

Re: Coronavirus
Surbiton Sarries 13 March, 2020 12:36
Scottish football off indefiniently
All rugby in France off for an unspecified period.

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