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Quote:gaz59
He does have a considerably long track record of duplicity in work and personal life
Quote:Clarkey3k
I fear that any deal acceptable to the EU will not be acceptable to the Remainers...
Quote:BathMatt53
I don’t think that Theresa May has a long track of duplicity? Say what you want about her and I know she is very dull / awkward but I think that she played with a straight bat more than most...
Quote:BathMatt53
I don’t think that Theresa May has a long track of duplicity? Say what you want about her and I know she is very dull / awkward but I think that she played with a straight bat more than most...
Quote:I think she was completely dishonest. She constantly claimed that leaving customs Union and single market was consistent with Belfast agreement. She tried to face both ways.BathMatt53
I don’t think that Theresa May has a long track of duplicity? Say what you want about her and I know she is very dull / awkward but I think that she played with a straight bat more than most...
Quote:al MossahQuote:I think she was completely dishonest. She constantly claimed that leaving customs Union and single market was consistent with Belfast agreement. She tried to face both ways.BathMatt53
I don’t think that Theresa May has a long track of duplicity? Say what you want about her and I know she is very dull / awkward but I think that she played with a straight bat more than most...
Like many politicians ( and a few bosses I've known), her ambition at each meeting was limited to saying what platitudes enabled her to survive the week. Boris is similar, except his survival horizon is hours, not days.
How come European countries get leaders like Merkel, Varadkar, Rutte etc, and we end up with a choice of BoJo or Jezza? ( Rhetorical).
Quote:annie blackthorn
Not that it matters now, but the vitriolic campaign waged against May by the ERG was frankly a disgrace.
She made mistakes, listened to the wrong people esp over the 2017 Election, but can you imagine having to deal with Jacob R-M et al, and the DUP zealots, let alone treacherous Gove et al.
Must be good to know that revenge is a dish best served cold, and she will get her chance soon
Quote:BathMatt53
As an aside, how is it possibly not a conflict of interest for JRM? Surely he could issue statements at any time which will make the pound go up or down?
Quote:annie blackthorn
John Tee =so do you believe that we are better off with Johnson (and his fellow travellers)?
Perhaps its a bit early to ask, as we do not currently have a clue as to whether agreement and compromise has been reached in the negotiations. Johnson definitely stopped shouting the odds from the rooftops and even JR-M backtracking (which I think is hilarious btw - he's now made his millions on latest currency fluctuations).
Quote:gaz59
If that is the concession Johnson has made then he will need to find some very convincing words to present it as something better than May's hash-up just warmed up
Quote:gaz59
If that is the concession Johnson has made then he will need to find some very convincing words to present it as something better than May's hash-up just warmed up
Quote:BBandW
Just a reminder that the People's Vote March is next Saturday in London- starting 12:00 at Park Lane.
People's March - stop the madness
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Just a reminder that the People's Vote March is next Saturday in London- starting 12:00 at Park Lane.
People's March - stop the madness
Already got my National Express ticket
Quote:shipwrecked
Not sure I believe what appears to be happening?
If Junkers is a barometer of the EU parliament and has ruled out an extension then the vote on Saturday is for the deal or a no deal. Does that mean if the Lib Dems, Labour and DUP oppose it they are voting for a NO DEAL Brexit.
Quote:BathMatt53
Guess so. Love Farage and his mock outrage!!
I think that Corbyn basically wants it to fail so that he makes Boris look bad and can win a GE. Pretty sure that’s not gonna happen though (not with him at the helm anyway),
Personally I hope it gets through one all sides (I voted remain) - has to be better than no deal IMO (or more delays and then no deal).
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Not sure I believe what appears to be happening?
If Junkers is a barometer of the EU parliament and has ruled out an extension then the vote on Saturday is for the deal or a no deal. Does that mean if the Lib Dems, Labour and DUP oppose it they are voting for a NO DEAL Brexit.
Quote:DanWiley
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I would expect Bercow or someone to stick an extra option on the table that will make it not a straight shoot off between No deal or his deal, but its a decent attempt.
Quote:John Tee
in view of this Agreement, then maybe no one to chance a GE then..?
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in view of this Agreement, then maybe no one to chance a GE then..?
SNP tabling a motion on Saturdays debate to force an extension in order to hold a GE
Quote:shipwrecked
Not sure I believe what appears to be happening?
If Junkers is a barometer of the EU parliament and has ruled out an extension then the vote on Saturday is for the deal or a no deal. Does that mean if the Lib Dems, Labour and DUP oppose it they are voting for a NO DEAL Brexit.
Quote:DanWiley
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It will, Boris has ensured that. You might not be happy with what we get in its place though.
Quote:DanWiley
However, looking at the polls I think you might be wrong. The number of people who actually want no deal is a relatively small fraction. Much smaller than, for example, those that want no brexit. The number of people who want May's deal, or anything like it, smaller still.
Quote:BathMatt53
I am pretty concerned about what would happen if there was a 2nd ref and it resulted in remain. I am sure that it would kick off massively and wouldn’t be at all good.
Quote:DanWiley
I'm not sure. I don't think we're that much of a thuggish nation and if they do manage to get the louts out in force I suspect they'll overstep the mark the give the police an excuse to beat the@#$%&out of them.
Either way it's no reason not to have a referendum.
Quote:DanWiley
I'm not sure. I don't think we're that much of a thuggish nation and if they do manage to get the louts out in force I suspect they'll overstep the mark the give the police an excuse to beat the@#$%&out of them.
Quote:Shipwrecked
Violence on property is acceptable if the cause is right.
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Violence on property is acceptable if the cause is right.
So basically you’re saying acceptable to smash up something others have worked for just because you cant get your own way. Utter utter tripe.
Quote:John Tee
General election, no question.
Any move towards a referendum is now clear that the protagonists
really mean, 1st one does not count and we want to remain anyway.
Put that to the voters.
Quote:hooter
Dianne abbot always sounds confused. The referendum question should be boris's deal or no deal.
Quote:Bath Hammer
It is also ridiculous to place all the blame on the Conservatives for failing to get a deal through when a majority of Parliament are ignoring the referendum result including the so called liberal DEMOCRATS.
Quote:Bath Hammer
They are not opposing the Government. They are opposing the democratic will of the people. It seems manifestly obvious to me and I voted remain.
Quote:Bath Hammer
But the labour front bench’s policy that we leave the EU but remain in the two main organisations within it, the Customs Union & the Single Market, seems a ludicrous proposition.
Quote:Bath Hammer
That’s utterly disingenuous. I certainly don’t recall it being discussed. On the contrary prominent leavers & remainers all said that if we voted to leave we would be leaving both of those institutions. It makes absolute no sense to leave but still have to conform to the 4 freedoms & have no ability to strike free trade deals. How can anyone justify that stance with any integrity?
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That’s utterly disingenuous. I certainly don’t recall it being discussed. On the contrary prominent leavers & remainers all said that if we voted to leave we would be leaving both of those institutions. It makes absolute no sense to leave but still have to conform to the 4 freedoms & have no ability to strike free trade deals. How can anyone justify that stance with any integrity?
I remember £350 million a week for the NHS being promised as well but no one's even bothering to pretend that that will happen any more.
"Integrity" is not the first word that occurs to me when asked describe this whole affair. "Clusterfeck" probably comes to mind the fastest.
Quote:John Tee
how was it wrong?